Coronavirus

[minutemenX]

Witches, Jews, Russians, Chinese etc. people need to blame other people. Can’t blame some brainles virus, right? Next time it will be Vietnamese pigs, reindeer or something and we blame people who bread them? Previous deadly virus MERC came from camels. Just by luck it was not transmissive to start epidemic. There is non-zero probability that something will jump on people no meter what. We all live on the same planet and interact with wildlife and animal kingdom constantly. Theoretically, even normal viruses that cause no more than cold now can mutate and become deadly. The only answer for this is to be prepared scientifically. Develop science and procedures that allows designing vaccine and treatment within weeks not months and years. It is entirely possible. Just a few years ago many months were needed to get the genetic makeup of the virus and now it was done within days. Support science fellows and stop blaming scapegoats.

 

[jalimon]

Minutemen I do agree with everything you wrote. Except let's call a cat a cat. China's wet market were responsible for:

Asian Flu in 1957-1958 from a mutation in wild ducks — at least 1.1 million dead
H5N1 Bird Flu in 1997 from Chinese geese — at least 455 dead
SARS in 2002-2003 from wild animals (perhaps bats, civet cats) — at least 774 dead
H7N9 Bird Flu in 2013 from poultry at live bird market — about 610 dead
Novel Coronavirus/COVID-19 which will cause probably a million dead a trillion lost.

So let's put some pressure on them to solves the issue.

That said life after this pandemic cannot be the same. We do need to understand that the planet has it's own limits. If we want to stay alive for a long time we need to have a smaller footprint.

 

[The Nature Boy]

I hope I can maintain an interest in watching.

LOL! thanks...

no idea about those bloodhound gang references your using

those articles u mention, didn’t read them but sounds like they r talking about monoclonal antibody therapy, I think. Fauci’s mentioned it a bunch of times. I would assume you can use it on both therapeutic and prophylactic purposes. I’m not an immunologist so don’t hold me to it but think can be used for both.

i think this is what was widely used in Ebola infected patients, in USA back in 2014, not sure though

 

[No_Church_InThe_Wild]

@ minutemenx Sorry sir but why is it scapegoating?
It originated in China’s wet markets like a lot of other viruses in the last two decades so they need to ban or better regulate the wildlife trade
The world needs to put some kind of pressure , we need to be proactive ... take away some of our business and you will get their attention
We cannot expect science to bail us out every time there is an outbreak, although maybe one day we will
We need to learn from this pandemic ,,, suggesting we look the other way , now where is the common sense in that ?
I’m not looking forward to covid-20

 

[sweetspot]

The virus could have started from any 3rd world country with wet markets, but none would have caused the situation we're in today, except China. The Chinese Communist Party is 100% responsible for forcing this pandemic upon the world by covering up early data, causing other nations to not realize how serious it is at the beginning, thus losing precious time. It took a whistleblower doctor for the world to pay attention.

The CCP will never be an honest player on the international stage, they steal intellectual property like crazy, don't play fairly in trades, try to infiltrate/influence local communities through their embassies and consulates, give a bad name to Chinese nationals, and so on. The world should put as much pressure as possible on shutting down those wet markets, no doubt about it. But the root problem is the nature of the CCP. If the CCP doesn't destroy the world with viruses, it'll do it with something else. I bet the next catastrophe will originate from China as well.

What to do then? You and I can't do anything. But there's hope. There's one single world leader who takes zero sh^t from the CCP and will bring down the hammer on them if necessary, and it happens that he's the most powerful man on the planet. Good times ahead.

 

[The Nature Boy]

I’ll say it again dude, step the fuck up with this vaccine stuff and let us know how it goes. Makes more sense for you to volunteer yourself before suggesting to try it on Africans or prisoners in jail for commuted sentences lol.

 

[cloudsurf]

As long as you keep reading Yahoo news..... you will keep being wrong. Its full of Russian fake news.
Try Huffnews for a change.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Yesterday, April 4, was a new record 1,344 deaths in the USA. When will the death numbers start going down? 2 weeks? 3? 4 ? 2 months? When will it peak with no vaccine?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/05/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

 

[Charlie Smart]

Here is my view and forgive the absence of political correctness: (i) China is not a friend or ally; (ii) Most/all of the serious viruses came out of China (wet markets, whatever); (iii) China cannot be trusted - they control the State media and all data/communications in/out of the country; and (iv) they have a long term plan - the current President is so for LIFE - creating a new Dynasty that will outlast most elected leaders in the free world today. Perhaps the wet markets are all bio weapons research facilities of the CCO?

 

[The Nature Boy]

I would do it, but I want to be compensated......

there are people volunteering for free or little compensation in America? Why would they pay u?

 

[cloudsurf]

I need to keep my weight up in case I get covid-19, and HuffPost #metoo propaganda makes me vomit up too many good meals.

Unfortunately a full stomach wont help your lungs survive covid19 . Nor will it keep doctors from shoving a feeding tube down your throat .
I didn`t recommend you read pro #mettoo propaganda and heaven forbid that you barf all over your computer. Only read the factual reports by health experts on viral epidemics …… then maybe you would have got it right a month ago.

BTW even Fauchi and other experts got it wrong and underestimated the severity of this worst in a 100 years pandemic. The flip flop on masks didn`t help their credibility either .

 

[The Nature Boy]

But they ARE skipping steps? the virus has been around only a few months? They ARE already testing on live humans, lol? I doubt they are even being compensated? What r u on about?

 

[jeff teliska]

Africa , Africa , Africa...
Patron , I would guess that you know Africa is a continent of 54 countries , therefore , which specific countries do you have in mind for the testing/compensation thing ?

 

[The Nature Boy]

Watch, he’s gonna post some internet article that he won’t even fully read through as a response

 

[The Nature Boy]

Just strikes me as a very slow process for a disease that has a 0-2 percent mortality rate (no one knows for sure, but personally I think it is in the lower end of the range) if the vaccination doesn’t work.

And I know this is cold, but a 0-2 percent chance of mortality is different for someone living in Montreal, New York City, or Madrid in comparison to Syria and war-torn parts of Africa. People in those places might laugh and say a 0-2 percent chance of dying is like a lazy Sunday morning.
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Dude wtf are you talking about 0-2% mortality, lol!!!! Wtf are you reading?????? Where the fuck r u getting these #’s from? It may be higher than what it is now because China is suppressing shit.

Again, where the fuck are you getting 0-2% mortality? You were the one who said “I suspect the mortality rate will decrease once it hits the 1st world health care.” Dude it’s gone up above 2%

yea, I’m not reading anymore of your articles. After that article where Gilead was denying that patient remdesivir and you rambling on about plaquenil and zpaks, doesn’t look like you even read your own shit

 

[Thor Jr]

Ok, on a different note, i volunteered at IGA to help out with deliveries, the manager thought i wanted a job and asked me to fill out an employment form, i told him hey, i dont want to get a paycheck, just want to help, if i have to use my own car ok, then ill take a gas allowance but i dont want a paycheck, i have a job that i will be returning to too, he said i have to get paid, i dont understand, I AM VOLUNTEERING, does the word volunteer mean something different here in Quebec?

 

[cloudsurf]

Patron , your 0 - 2% is misleading and so far not factual.
Its obviously not 0% and so far only 1 country has been in the .05% range .
The vast majority of countries are in the 1.5 to 5% range. That percent should go down though after more testing is done.
I would guess that the end game will see a 2% mortality rate of those infected. Most will be elderly and with underlying health issues....but some will be healthy under 50 years old….its Russian roulette.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Cloudy that % is gonna go down when treatment and more ventilators become available. The mortality rate has to do with pathogen and it’s affects on overburdening health care systems 1st world and developing world. When a vaccine, and more treatment options come into play that’s when it will diminish. In the USA and U.K., there are a considerable amount of maybe not deaths but young men with no co-morbidities in the hospital and even occupying critical care units. Don’t think it’s a disease of the elderly and vulnerable only


Thor, thank you for volunteering!

my neighbors dropped off a box of surgical masks and N-95 masks for me a few days ago. I thought that was wonderful. They are Chinese FYI

 

[cloudsurf]

Thor you can volunteer for a non-profit organization but a for profit company has to pay you by law.....you can always donate the money you make to charity.

 

[Charlie Smart]

Thor...may be for legal reasons they need you to be an employee as you will be delivering on their behalf, especially so perhaps since they are not a not for profit entity that could otherwise have volunteers / unpaid help. BTW, my "law degree" comes from watching TV....