Coronavirus

[sene5hos]

S'il nous ment sur le nombre de mort ou ne dis pas la vérité. Ils peuvent aussi exagérer sur d'autres choses. Comme les symptomes, contagions etc.
C'est pas juste au Québec, Legaut a dis que c'est comme ça partout pour les autres pays. Est-ce qu'il y a de la politique (L'Occident) derrière ça pour faire tomber la Chine?
C'est des questions que je me pose.

Non ils ne peuvent pas exagérer sur les symptômes, ça c'est impossible. Il ne faut pas oublier que c'est mondial.
Et ne te pose plus des questions sur le fait de faire tomber la Chine.

Ce gars est un très bon parleur, et fanatique, cela me fait peur.
Moi personnellement ce n'est pas un gars que je vais suivre.

 

[sene5hos]

If you look him up, you will quickly discover that he's the son of FLQ Activist Jacques Cossette-Trudel (convicted for the kidnapping and murder of minister Pierre Laporte).
He's clearly an educated person (multiple PhDs political sci & religious studies) and a good communicator for the "masses", and that's the part that worries me the most. That's the perfect educational background to learn how to manipulate masses if you ask me...
I'm not stating that all he says is false. He clearly does his research, but he also does it in a way to support his ideaologies especially if he can dig up something that can give credibility to anything he's ever said in the past.

Thank you Neverbored for these informations.

I didn't know that, but it explains, because I thought he was the fanatic type and that he could be a good manipulator.
Unfortunately, he is the kind of man who will always argue and who will never change his mind.

 

[EagerBeaver]

MLB Players, Employees Participating in National Covid-19 Study

This is NOT a sports study, it is a medical study on Covid-19:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...eam-employees-participating-coronavirus-study

 

[donbusch]

For those looking to self-isolate in style, u can rent an entire superyacht for only $120,000 to $600,000 per week. Crew is extra so might as well include a couple of your favorite escorts while u’re at it.

https://www.businessinsider.com/bil...chartered-superyachts-amid-coronavirus-2020-3

More ‘down to earth’ options also include renting out entire inns or hotels in the countryside. The entire Blantyre Country Resort, a luxury country house hotel in the Berkshires is available for a mere $38,000/night.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ult...out-entire-hotels-inns-to-self-isolate-2020-3

For the rich but not quite super rich, not to worry - if u live in wealthy enclaves like Miami’s Fisher Island or the ski town of Telluride in Colorado, yr community will arrange free coronavirus & antibody tests for all residents & staff.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ult...s-arranging-free-testing-for-residents-2020-4

As for the rest of us, King ..... opps, President Trump says there are already Beautiful tests for anyone who wants one, right? Our Magnificent hospitals r in great shape and overflowing with so much PPE that people r actually pilfering.

Soon, President Trump alone will decide when to restart our Greatest ever economy. We should be doubly grateful for all that he & his Wonderful family especially Prince Jared has sacrificed for us. Make America Great Again!

 

[EagerBeaver]

Some posts earlier in this thread had discussed antibody testing as an imminent done deal. It turns out antibody testing is a "work in progress", much like a vaccine:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/health/coronavirus-antibody-tests-scientists/index.html

 

[The Nature Boy]

I could be wrong, but I’m pretty confident the antibody tests will be out waaaay sooner than the vaccine

i don’t remember ever saying it was a done deal, but do remember saying antibody testing is coming, and hopefully soon and that it will help transitioning peeps back to work

Everything with this virus is a work in progress

 

[jalimon]

Scientist are talking about a vaccines by the fall...

Is it just false hope or it could be true:
https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-intl-04-15-20/index.html

 

[ssj3]

Even if you have IgG or IgM elevated titers, that doesn’t necessarily mean you have protective immunity. It just means you have been exposed and are mounting a response. Antibody presence does not guarantee protective immunity. The only way of knowing protective clinical immunity is examining what happens after reexposure. We don’t know the significance of having antibodies yet.

 

[The Nature Boy]

SS,
it does not but it’s part of a feasible plan to test young healthy 1st responders who have high IgG levels and let them go back to work first and see what happens in the fall when and if the virus circulated again.

There are no absolutes in medicine. Will there be a level of immunity that is present with already being infected and clearing the virus, probably, is it absolute yes, no. How long will that immunity last? Who the fuck knows? And how strong will it be?

like I said they will probably test 1st responders who are young and healthy who have tested IgG + first and send them back

You had also mentioned in another post somewhere else that RNA vaccine, that is a vaccine they are working on getting ready for trial purposes to 1st responders in the fall.

There are many vaccine candidates in trials right now

 

[ssj3]

I did not say that there weren’t multiple vaccines in the works. I just said that it seems like the leading candidate is Moderna’s that’s all.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Wasn’t sayin u did. But I think that moderna one you mentioned is gonna be given out to medical personal in the fall as part of a broader study.

Theres a ton of vaccine candidates, they r even trying the old BcG Tb vaccine to see if this boosts an immune response that makes people less susceptible to COVID-19. Tons of shit in the pipeline

heres a cool article

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5819965/coronavirus-treatments-research/?amp=true

 

[ssj3]

Yes, I believe you’re probably right. If I had to bet, I would say Moderna’s will be the first to reach the market. It is much easier and faster to produce than a traditional attenuated vaccine. And the scalability of it works in its favor as well.

 

[sene5hos]

Everyone is now suspend that Trump has stopped contributing to the World Health Organization due to mismanagement of the epidemic.

He blames the organization for not having reacted quickly enough, also that the organization has taken part for China. So I have 2 comments:

1) As everyone thinks that China has hidden the truth about the real contamination data and the deaths. So for the organization it was difficult to react quickly and to know that the crisis was also serious.

2) The killer question: Could Trump have done better? I think 100% that not. And he allows himself to blame the organization, he didn't even act when full of European countries were completely overwhelmed due to this epidemic. His country was starting to have problems and he was already contradicting Dr. Fauci's words.

If he had reacted quickly the USA would surely not count more than 26,000 dead.

 

[The Nature Boy]

SS,

i dont know much about the moderna vaccine. The one we hear about most in England is the one in the pipeline by Glaxo and sanofi.

Im not sure which vaccines you have gotten for flu in USA but most of the ones I’ve received in America and England are not attenuated but inactivated ones and quadrivalent. Glaxo and sanofi are doing something with their recombinant vaccine candidate by using technology from one of the flu vaccines. Not sure of the specifics though? Thats why I wondered if you could combine a covid-19 vaccine to a flu vaccine in one shot, still optimistic it can happen down the road if covid-19 proves to be seasonal, we will see, I guess?

 

[OnJustALark]

Posts seem to be removed arbitrarily ... so am hopeful this one remains ... but the the above by sene ... again, please recall OUR President placed a total ban on inbound flights from China and was deemed a racists and xenophobe. Had he done so too for ALL flights from anywhere he would have been further vilified as a countryman and isolationist ... clear cut case of TDS and damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Pulling funding from WHO, an organization that is frankly in bed with China has lost sight of its impartiality and if China wants to pick up the funding slack in light of this china virus let them - unless Canada wants to ... again, if you hired a contractor and were not getting the work load nor the quality of work and when you sought information was instead lied to ... would you keep paying that contractor?

Lets pull together in relief of this plague that is upon us in stead of pulling apart .. and pulling down posts ... as the mantra now goes, we are ll in this together ... too bad the stay at home order didn;t initiate whilst anyone wasn't with a SP ... just think ... a month of quarantine with her!!!

 

[The Nature Boy]

Thanks Larry, just got the visual of Tedros Adhanom and Xi Jinping in bed naked against the headboard with a comforter covering their privates

 

[EagerBeaver]

Cuomo has ordered all New Yorker to wear masks:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ws...navirus-infections-near-2-million-11586945317

It's a positive step. I have 2 masks, and haven't left home without one or the other.

 

[jalimon]

Pulling funding from WHO, an organization that is frankly in bed with China has lost sight of its impartiality and if China wants to pick up the funding slack in light of this china virus let them - unless Canada wants to ... again, if you hired a contractor and were not getting the work load nor the quality of work and when you sought information was instead lied to ... would you keep paying that contractor?

Trump is only thinking about winning the next election and absolutely nothing else. It's all political crap. He knows this move will be popular to his base.

Many countries are pissed off at China's role at the OMS and how they handle the pandemic.

If he really wanted to fight China's role at the OMS he would use all his allies to back him up. That is how you do things. Now he is just offering a victory to China and pissing even more USA's allies. And if you think USA do not need any allies you will never understand anything and always believe Trump's crap.

 

[Charlie Smart]

...his goal at the end is to open up the economy and get the markets back up by election time...he will claim victory and take all the credit.

 

[EagerBeaver]

...his goal at the end is to open up the economy and get the markets back up by election time...

Or to blame the Governors if the economy cannot be opened and the markets raised by election time. Either way it is very fundamental political strategy.