Coronavirus

[No_Church_InThe_Wild]

Not only Russia , I thought that the USA was off limits for all Europeans . As of right now flights are supposed to resume the 21st of July , but of course that could change any day now

I need and want to fly out to Europe but I’d be required to spend two whole weeks quarantined in a hotel room
Taking in the sun the last couple of days and missing/reminiscing my Old Country . I was hoping to be back this year , but the odds are against that happening , damn Virus . And so I dream ...

 

[The Nature Boy]

Yea but can Russian come to USA? Cause Brazilians can’t come to USA. Here’s a potential scenario

EU bans americans
Trump begins retaliatory ban
Brazilians ( country next to USA with highest # of cases) already banned

So with EU peeps and Brazilians banned will they then implement a ban on Russians, lol? They r #3 I think with amount of cases? There will be drama about that with press callin trump Putin’s bitch.

 

[No_Church_InThe_Wild]

The above scenario is very possible and with good reason because of the way our neighbors handled things ... and then it becomes tit for tat

Who ever thought that the world would be banning Americans

 

[The Nature Boy]

I could actually see Trump banning Germans and then goin “NO WE’RE NOT BANNING RUSSIANS!!!”

 

[EagerBeaver]

Drove to Maine from New York late last week. Yes, you will see signs about Executive Order 14 day quarantine. But absolutely NO ENFORCEMENT. I stayed Friday through Monday.

Did you stay at a hotel? Because if you stayed at a hotel it can be easily enforced, whereas if you stayed in a private residence it would be impossible to enforce.

 

[Money Taburn]

You don`t think they time snapped your plate when you entered the state and again when you left ? Is there a fine for dodging the quarantine ?

Maybe I quarantined. Maybe I didn't. How could they possibly know? Saw many, many out of state license plates. Seems to me the manpower necessary to enforce the rule would be impossible. Also there are many people who live in Maine and for various reasons register their vehicles in NH or MA or VT, which you can do if you also have a residence in those states.

 

[Money Taburn]

Did you stay at a hotel? Because if you stayed at a hotel it can be easily enforced, whereas if you stayed in a private residence it would be impossible to enforce.

Excellent point. I stayed at my condo. where there were also many MA, CT etc. registered vehicles.

 

[IamNY]

This is from the CDC listing the travel restrictions. Europe has been restricted from traveling to the US since March. Europe restricting the travel from the USA is fair considering the amount of new daily cases we are having. Some feel it's a tit for tat because the US hasn't relaxed it's own travel restrictions for Europe as well as the suspensions/restrictions of visa's being issued to foreigners to help protect American jobs. With unemployment being at an all time high I guess the logic is to fill the jobs with Americans before seeking workers from outside of the country. I also included a link regarding travel visa's.

COVID-19 and Travel

CDC travel recommendations during the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.cdc.gov

Suspension of Routine Visa Services

travel.state.gov

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[EagerBeaver]

Money Taburn,

There is no way to enforce a 14 day quarantine rule on someone staying in a private residence but those in a hotel stand on a different footing. When you check in they have your address and you are red flagged. As I posted earlier all the tourists arrested so far were staying at hotels in Hawaii, and when they left the hotel, the hotel called the cops. As they are legally required to do. If you are staying at a private residence, unless you have "New Yorker" stamped on your forehead and I presume you don't, how would anyone know????

 

[EagerBeaver]

Great Waloo:

The EU is going about it all wrong. Trump is not in charge of Covid 19 regulation, the Governors of the individual States are. They should restrict travel from the States that deserve it. For example Connecticut, where I live, we are a responsible State and whereas we were badly hit at the beginning of the pandemic, now we have declining cases despite massive testing. I am getting tested at one of the many drive through Covid testing stations myself on Saturday (mandatory due to a minor medical procedure I am having on June 29). So hopefully I continue our trend here.

On the other hand those red necks in Alabama and Florida should have their non-evolved Neanderthal asses banned by the EU. They have behaved like nothing is wrong. The Governor of Florida is an idiot and he should be treated like one.

 

[IamNY]

EB,

Agree with your comments above. I'm from NY and like yourself, played by the rules set out by my state to significantly reduce our cases and hospitalizations. Managing travel within our borders is one thing, I think it would be a huge challenge for other countries to pick and choose which states are permitted to travel abroad. Instead they paint us with a broad brush to include the responsible states with the ones with horrible governors that just don't get it. I wasn't a fan governor Cuomo, but I am now, his leadership and guts have really changed that opinion with the way he took care of NY during this crisis.

 

[sene5hos]

On the other hand those red necks in Alabama and Florida should have their non-evolved Neanderthal asses banned by the EU. They have behaved like nothing is wrong. The Governor of Florida is an idiot and he should be treated like one.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/politics/donald-trump-ron-desantis-florida/index.html

Trump and Florida's DeSantis talk reopening plans and share mutual congratulations.

IT WAS 2020/04/28

It's too late….. (yesterday 37,000 new cases in USA).

Trump and DeSantis, among the worst duets.
They dance well together.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Maine's 14 day quarantine rule is still in effect, the hotel told me, but If we can get Covid tested within 72 hours prior to our trip and produce a negative test result, we will be allowed to roam freely outside the hotel without the cops being called. I am told Maine may revisit the rule before August as the Maine hotel industry is applying maximum pressure for rescission of the quarantine rule. Stay tuned. I may have to have a second Covid Test beyond the one I am getting this weekend.

 

[RobertNYC]

Back to an earlier point. I think the chance of my Sept or Oct trip to Montreal is pegged about 0% right now based on latest US data and public sentiment about resurgence. No way they’re opening border in next 2-3 months based on latest US data, especially while other countries put the US in quarantine.

 

[RobertNYC]

EB, I always appreciate your opinions and analysis. But we are a country of people who are mobile, and many have 2nd homes in states like FL. It’s not practical for a country to determine entry based on a state of residence, which can be easily manipulated.

 

[sene5hos]

Yes Robert, I don't think your chances of coming to Montreal are 0%, but as long as it doesn't improve in USA, forget it.
I hope the borders will remain closed for a long time.

It's clear Robert that I have a lot of sympathy for you.

To say that before I thought of going there for 6 months a year, but now never, never.
Coming to Montreal, I think it would be possible by plane. With planes equipped with Hepa filters, the wearing of the mandatory mask, as well as compliance with Canadian instructions, and the obligation of a quarantine of 14 days.

 

[IamNY]

RobertNYC you may be correct that there’s a zero chance of crossing the border into Canada anytime soon. But, I would point out that NY was looking really bad only 30 days ago and now we are the poster child of success. If the rest of the governors get their shit together it’s quite possible they can turn it around.

 

[gll]

yup, with the eu closing its gates to the us, canada is not going to open the border to the us anytime soon. as a nyer, i want a trudeau -cuomo submit where they decide to let nyers into canada- would be a poke in the eye for trump. of course, trump would counter by not letting us back into the us. maybe not a bad thing, i wouldnt mind riding out this pandemic in montreal.

 

[IamNY]

Read this a little while ago and thought it was interesting:

Quebec Isn't Going To Share Daily COVID-19 Numbers Anymore

Dominique Anglade called the decision "incomprehensible."

www.mtlblog.com

 

[EagerBeaver]

i want a trudeau -cuomo submit where they decide to let nyers into canada-

How about the CT and NJ governors also being invited to the summit you are proposing? Since they have acted in unison with Cuomo on Coronvirus rules and making them uniform in the Tristate area, which was initially the hardest hit area in the USA, but is now showing the most improvement. I think you need to show Ned Lamont some love.