Coronavirus

[ShyMan]

It's going to be a long summer for Americans who love to travel abroad, particularly to Canada, for fun, culture, food and games. Even domestic travel might be ill advised until we can be vaccinated against the coronavirus. It's now a waiting game.

Some Canadian businesses want to let Americans back in. Most Canadians don’t.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/us-canada-border-coronavirus/2020/06/30/2cbfd3b0-b55c-11ea-a510-55bf26485c93_story.html

"Amid a general sense here that Canada has handled the coronavirus better than the United States, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in June there was “broad consensus” among provincial leaders to keep current measures along the 5,500-mile frontier in place.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford said he wants the border to stay closed to nonessential travelers beyond the current July 21 end date. British Columbia’s health minister last week rattled off the record numbers of new cases in hard-hit U.S. states.

A national survey by Destination Canada, a crown corporation that markets Canada as a tourist destination, found that just 24 percent of people in Quebec somewhat or strongly agreed with welcoming U.S. visitors — and they were the most enthusiastic province. In British Columbia, the figure was 6 percent.

“Canadians look at what’s happening with the spread of covid in the United States and their comparatively better performance at getting it under control,” said Edward Alden, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. “And they have no interest at all in Americans coming to Canada.”"

. . . .

"Canada’s tourism sector generates $74 billion annually and is responsible for 1.8 million jobs, according to government figures. Two-thirds of international tourist arrivals to Canada in 2019 came from the United States."

 

[Sir William]

My mother is in a CHSLD

And she as never been so well treated since the army took over. They are doing a serious cleanup under martial law.

I took my mother out of an intermediate residence. She stayed there for about 10 months. She was at the hospital at least every month due to neglect. Urinary infections, diaper rashes, gum infections due to not cleaning her dentures, C difficile infections that were spreaded by preposés aux beneficiaries that didn't follow basic hygiene and sanitation. Every time that I visited her I gave her a shower and those were the only showers that she was getting. Starting from the point that I took care of her in my house for about three years she never was sick or went to the hospital. She died from old age at 93. Took care of my father also during the same period he also died of old age at 91. I sacrificed about 3 years of my life to take full time care of my parents. There was no way in hell that I would leave them under government care.

After about two and a half years of constant supervision and care I finally extorted a three week respite from a social worker. They took her in at Grace Dart CHSLD. Before she went in she would be very active I made certain that she was. Brought her to Costco and she would push the carriage without problems would take walks with her. When I went to pick her up she didn't walk anymore. I had to extort a physiotherapist from the CLSC and also hired a personal trainer specialized in geriatrics. She never came back to how she was and it was downhill from there.

I sincerely regret having left her under care to have me time and a vacation and still feel the guilt to this day that I abandoned and let her down.

Our medical care system is seriously ill. Instead of adressing the issues and solving them they came out with a zero tolerance policy.

 

[sene5hos]

Either somebody removed your funny bone somewhere down the line or you clearly don’t comprehend sarcasm or English very well, That was anything but disrespectful.
Ask cloudserf to translate it for you he got it.

My mother died in one of those terrible homes and I am the last person on earth to disrespect the elderly.

If it was a sarcasm, or I can't read, or you wrote so well that I didn't understand anything. It seems clear to me when you wrote: Shame on these old fuckers.

 

[The Nature Boy]

EB,
I apologize for the lack of perspective I took to someone in your position would be in. I took with the whole NY Florida drama. Totally didn’t mean any disrespect and hope she gets a speedy recovery. Sorry again

 

[Jimmy7]

If it was a sarcasm, or I can't read, or you wrote so well that I didn't understand anything. It seems clear to me when you wrote: Shame on these old fuckers.

That post was a “ tongue in cheek “ post, google it.
You clearly miss understood it completely.
It seems I do write so well that you don’t understand lol.

There was no disrespect to the elderly quite the opposite. You should not always read things word for word but the meaning behind the way words are used.

 

[donbusch]

Who can get the states to work together on quarantine & other coronavirus matters? Is there a national leader within the entire American government that has the stature & influence to coordinate public health policies across a decentralized system? Well ..... some might argue that’s the job of the US President.

The coronavirus is the worst natural disaster that has ever impacted the country, no state has been spared so obviously a national problem, certainly much more than Hurricane Maria, Harvey or Katrina that were all not as broad-based or severe but yet prompted federal responses.

The state governors can argue about federalism till the coronavirus destroys their states or they can pass this political hot potato to the US President who manages the vast resources of the federal government. Which option would they choose?

All the governors would have deferred to a President whom they had confidence in. But it was clear from the start that Trump was not willing to take any responsibility by suddenly rediscovering federalism & states’ rights after 3+ years of Presidential overreach.

Can’t imagine any governor would trust a President that still thinks the coronavirus is just going to disappear. Watch our Commander-in-chief who was just interviewed by Fox Business. Even the Fox reporter was shocked!!!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1278405761077477376

 

[ShyMan]

Starting from the point that I took care of her in my house for about three years she never was sick or went to the hospital. She died from old age at 93. Took care of my father also during the same period he also died of old age at 91. I sacrificed about 3 years of my life to take full time care of my parents. There was no way in hell that I would leave them under government care.

. . . .

I sincerely regret having left her under care to have me time and a vacation and still feel the guilt to this day that I abandoned and let her down.

You're truly an angel--I speak from a similar experience as yours. Please don't regret and don't feel guilty. You did the best you could. You're not a robot; heck, even robots need rest and tune-ups. (I also know it's easier said than done -- to forgive yourself and not to second guess what you did or didn't do. I still struggle with the same emotions you are enduring.)

IMHO, in the majority of the cases, care homes or nursing homes are places where our elderly and disabled folks are sent to die, despite our best intentions, that's the reality. I have vowed never to admit anyone in my family to a nursing home.

Sadly, I understand the fatality rate among the care homes in Quebec are twice as high as those in other provinces and even the States.

 

[Fradi]

I have been taking care of my 95 year old mother in law for 6 years now since my wife passed away.
sweet old lady except when she gets in these I want to die moods.
I have learned to hate Judge Judy with a passion lol.
Makes it so difficult to get out and see my favourite escorts. Golf dinner with friends etc ... I have used so often she wouldn’t take it well if she knew.
My mom wasn’t so lucky she needed medical care round the clock in her last year and had no choice but to place her in one of these nursing homes. I hope they shoot me before putting me in one of them.

 

[IamNY]

Yes, I do think if someone else was president thing would be different. Shit,
Say pence. Especially that adorable fella you got sitting in Hartford. If he was president there would be some sort of national plan, following of the very guidelines he put out.

Believe it or not, there is a national plan from the federal government, President Trump:

Combating COVID-19 | The White House

The Biden-Harris plan to beat COVID-19

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[EagerBeaver]

Who is profiting deeply from lobbying & brown envelopes? Politicians, Pharmaceutical companies, medical supply manufacturers, plexiglass manufacturers and all the disinfecting & hand washing manufacturers. Pharmaceutical companies have such strong lobbying, deep pockets & influence that they made a known effective treatment against COVID-19 illegal so that they can come out with their own vaccine. Meanwhile people where dying...

You forgot to mention Zoom. In the beginning of March, I had no idea what the fuck Zoom was. If you would have asked me, I would have said, "is that a new Usain Bolt sneaker?" Now, the whole legal business is on Zoom. Zoom client conferences, Zoom depositions, Zoom mediations, Zoom court conferences, now they just started having Zoom court hearings on the record. What I have learned, besides the fact that I should have bought lots of Zoom stock, is that there are various different software platforms that operate off a Zoom base, each one different, yet similar. I have slowly learned to become adept at this technology, sort of like a Gorilla learning to use a stick to knock bananas off a tree. I can now upload documents into the meeting and I have learned how to use multi screens and also to multitask during Zoom depositions. During one 5 hour plus Zoom deposition of a medical expert last week I used the second screen to respond to client and insurance carrier emails during breaks and lulls in the deposition. One sound piece of advice: if you have a Zoom deposition and you will either give or take testimony, make sure your internet connection doesn't suck. Because if it sucks, it will be exposed and you will be exposed with repeated, embarrassing "face freeze" episodes. Which are cartoonishly funny but not when it happens to you. It is a sign that you are low rent if you let it happen with people in your business in the meeting, so don't let it happen. Fortunately, my connection is solid and has not let me down.

 

[IamNY]

This got zero press in the states, I'm sure you guys already know about it, but here it is anyway:

NHL eyeing Toronto, Edmonton as hub cities for season restart

The NHL has shifted its focus to selecting two Canadian hub cities, which would have the league resuming its season in Toronto and Edmonton later this summer, sources confirmed to ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[donbusch]

The United States is once again at risk of outstripping its COVID-19 testing capacity, an ominous development that would deny the country a crucial tool to understand its pandemic in real time.

Any plan to contain the virus will depend on fast and accurate testing, which can identify newly infectious people before they set off new outbreaks. Without it, the U.S. is in the dark.

Quest Diagnostics, one of the country’s largest medical-testing companies, said that its systems were overwhelmed and that it would now be able to deliver COVID-19 test results in one day only for hospitalized patients, patients facing emergency surgery, and symptomatic health-care workers. Everyone else now must wait three to five days for a test result.

We closed the economy at great cost to bring coronavirus cases down and to buy time so that a comprehensive Test, Trace, Isolate system could be set up to control outbreaks. Now we still don’t have the Test component in place. Forget about Trace, Isolate. WTF .....

A Dire Warning From COVID-19 Test Providers

U.S. coronavirus testing could fail again, as surging demand creates new backlogs and delays.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[The Nature Boy]

Believe it or not, there is a national plan from the federal government, President Trump:

Combating COVID-19 | The White House

The Biden-Harris plan to beat COVID-19

www.whitehouse.gov

Is this this the plan the cdc worked on that Jared had chopped up?

Anywhoo, a look at what it’s like after covid

Coronavirus Survivors: Here's What Recovery May Look Like

For your consideration....

How does someone become a saint?

Pope John Paul II and Pope John XXIII will be declared saints by Pope Francis on Sunday. The BBC looks at the steps required for an individual to become a saint.

www.bbc.com

https://t.co/8KdZhVhRdq?ssr=true

To the doubters....

 

[EagerBeaver]

Unfortunately the reality "on the ground" is that these kinds of decisions are what are causing the spread of the virus: a general restlessness among the population and people going out who don't have to:

He posted his regrets over attending a party in California. The next day, he died of coronavirus

A Southern California man who tested positive for coronavirus after attending a party expressed his fear and regret a day before he died.

www.cnn.com

 

[IamNY]

My only point for sharing the "Opening Up America Again" link from the president was to show that even though the president/federal government did take the initiative to lay out a plan for America to open, the individual states are still going to do it their way regardless. Should the president rally the country to wear masks, social distance, etc.? Yes, he should. But the individual states really need to get their shit together and work this problem intelligently. An example of this is in the tri state area of NY, CT, and NJ. We got hit the worst with Covid-19 and our governors, like them or not, gave us daily press briefings loaded with information every day to help guide us to where we are today. They continue to monitor the situation and facts to determine scaling back or moving forward with the opening. The federal government/president is there to help us when the states can't get what they need to keep the peace or health of it's citizens, with ventilators, hospital beds, national guard for looters, etc.

Combating COVID-19 | The White House

The Biden-Harris plan to beat COVID-19

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[donbusch]

Is this this the plan the cdc worked on that Jared had chopped up?

To be fair, it wasn’t a bad plan even after Jared’s butchering. After all, still lots of dedicated talents at the muzzled CDC.

But just like all the excellent intelligence briefs prepared for the President, the CDC Reopening Plan was ignored by Trump & kept in the drawer so that the Trump administration wld hv something to show when people started asking about the Federal government’s coronavirus response.

In the meanwhile, Trump simply promoted his own coronavirus plan which was to reopen the economy & hope for the best - a plan that was warmly embraced by Trump acolytes; Abbott, DeSantis & Ducey.

 

[sene5hos]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lx7m6qftV4

Excellent results. I'm glad to hear that.
But before rejoicing too much, we will wait for the July results.

 

[sene5hos]

Yesterday USA and Brazil = 103,937 new cases and 1,789 deaths.

In addition, Brazil doesn't calculate all the dead.

 

[IamNY]

Yesterday the USA had 676 deaths. That's significantly less than the spikes that were in the thousands back in March and April. Let's hope the record amount of new cases don't equal more deaths. We should know in a couple of weeks.

 

[fromtheoutside]

The United States is once again at risk of outstripping its COVID-19 testing capacity, an ominous development that would deny the country a crucial tool to understand its pandemic in real time.

A Dire Warning From COVID-19 Test Providers

U.S. coronavirus testing could fail again, as surging demand creates new backlogs and delays.

www.theatlantic.com

Sounds dire indeed. Strange that only 72 hours earlier this article was reporting a slightly different narrative.

The US now has more covid-19 tests than it knows what to do with

Many labs can run thousands more tests a day . Containing the virus and reopening the economy both depend on figuring out how to use that capacity.

www.technologyreview.com

I hope the messaging of The Atlantic has nothing to do with it being a left leaning publication that staunchly support Hillary Clinton and then subsequently became a strong and vocal critic of Trump, publishing last year a cover story calling for his impeachment.

I also found interesting this testing strategy called 'pooling' as a means to deal with lack of testing capacity, should it be required.