Coronavirus

[Francoquart]

think you're giving Trudeau too much credit. I seriously doubt the capacity of any 1 person to dream up such grand plan or conspiracy. For one reason: how do you keep it quiet? Such a grand plan requires mass collaboration and obedience from the conspirators, which is damn near impossible. Politics is a bucket of pirahnas - everybody is constantly biting. Expose 1 little bit, make a tiny mistake and you're fish food.

The more likely explanation is that it's just a government trying to do the best it can, like you and me.

It is "They" not "Him". The way politics work is through groups of interests. The markets are divided between big corporations in many industries. We all know about the Petroleum Cartel, the Gun Industry, the Tobacco Industry, etc... Every decade or so, you get some sectors dominating over others, or having more influence. COVID is not a conspiracy (or at least in the sense that a group planned its release, then the Vaccine). COVID happened, the world got scared, the Pharmaceutical industry, using the Media, and all the influence they had, shaped decision making to their favour. This is not "conspiracy", it is "Opportunism". Trudeau, Biden, and some other politicians, I believe, got involved in one way or another (invested, paid off, or any other way) to this industry, and stand to gain financially from the Vaccines (my opinion of course).
I cannot understand their behaviour in any other context. Politicians are sharks, they are not benevolent people that will do their "best" in a good sense.
The Vaccine's success has only been established in the media. Nothing practically has shown that the Vaccine has changed the Outcome. The Omicron was transmitted by the Travelling Vaccinated, and yet they kept pushing the Passport. When vaccinated died, they defended the Vaccine by stating it is not 100 percent immune.
Did you see any statistics on how many Non Vaccinated got the COVID and did not Die? I bet you it will be higher that 99 percent.

 

[CLOUD 500]

It is "They" not "Him". The way politics work is through groups of interests. The markets are divided between big corporations in many industries. We all know about the Petroleum Cartel, the Gun Industry, the Tobacco Industry, etc... Every decade or so, you get some sectors dominating over others, or having more influence. COVID is not a conspiracy (or at least in the sense that a group planned its release, then the Vaccine). COVID happened, the world got scared, the Pharmaceutical industry, using the Media, and all the influence they had, shaped decision making to their favour. This is not "conspiracy", it is "Opportunism". Trudeau, Biden, and some other politicians, I believe, got involved in one way or another (invested, paid off, or any other way) to this industry, and stand to gain financially from the Vaccines (my opinion of course).
I cannot understand their behaviour in any other context. Politicians are sharks, they are not benevolent people that will do their "best" in a good sense.
The Vaccine's success has only been established in the media. Nothing practically has shown that the Vaccine has changed the Outcome. The Omicron was transmitted by the Travelling Vaccinated, and yet they kept pushing the Passport. When vaccinated died, they defended the Vaccine by stating it is not 100 percent immune.
Did you see any statistics on how many Non Vaccinated got the COVID and did not Die? I bet you it will be higher that 99 percent.

You described cronyism and this would not exist if there was a true free market and government did not have so much power. All those special interest groups are enabled by the government and corporations exist because of the government (limited liability). The government is to be blamed. That is why no government should ever have so much power. In my book the vaccines are a fail but the government is spewing whatever nonsense to justify their political narrative. The purpose of a vaccine is to prevent disease but the vaccine does not do that. Can we even call it a vaccine? The smallpox vaccine eliminated smallpox. Trudeau got his doses yet he got infected twice in the last six months. Does not make much sense to me. The media is funded by the government to spread their political agenda. The government benefited a lot from covid mandates (they made a lot of money, you do not know how many have shares in pharmaceutical companies or how many got bribed by the pharmaceutical companies). As long as yes man government people exist, this hoax will keep going on.

 

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The purpose of a vaccine is to prevent disease but the vaccine does not do that.

The purpose of vaccine is to prevent severe disease. And it does it with and efficacy of 98% versus the virus it was designed against. PRETTY SUCCESSFULL!

 

[CLOUD 500]

The purpose of vaccine is to prevent severe disease. And it does it with and efficacy of 98% versus the virus it was designed against. PRETTY SUCCESSFULL!

Repeating what the government says does not make it is correct.

 

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^^^^^^ Facts, only facts! Some are not interested in facts! Living in an alternate world I guess.

 

[CLOUD 500]

^^^^^
Because the government said it, does not make it facts. Some are only interested in conforming rather then opening their eyes to reality. Easy to live in denial I guess.

 

[Fradi]

The purpose of vaccine is to prevent severe disease. And it does it with and efficacy of 98% versus the virus it was designed against. PRETTY SUCCESSFULL!

So basically you are saying anybody that is not vaccinated has a 2% chance of not having a severe disease, which of course is complete BS.
Yes vaccines work but not to the point that you are claiming or the government. Right now the majority of cases that are ending up in hospital are those that are over 60 and triple vaccinated, and the majority of deaths are the same and yes again some have underlying conditions that are contributing heavily.
The over 60 population was always the worst hit with every variant of Covid.
There are less people dying now not only because of vaccination but because Omicron while more contagious is far less deadly and less likely to land you in hospital that is also a fact.
So let’s not tell half facts and half truths.

 

[sene5hos]

Easy to live in denial.

I would say exactly the same thing, because you have always denied the existence of the covid

 

[CLOUD 500]

I would say exactly the same thing, because you have always denied the existence of the covid

I never denied it but reading and comprehending is not one of your forte.

 

[Fradi]

I never denied it but reading and comprehending is not one of your forte.

Unbeatable in posting and pasting though, doesn’t matter whether it is relevant or not or makes sense or not a clear case of quantity over quality lol.
There is no denying that vaccinations are of benefit to keep you from being hospitalized or dying 98% all due to vaccines that is ridiculous.
Basically probably less than 5% would die or end up seriously sick right now from Omicron vaccinated or not and most of those again would be over 60 with underlying conditions.

 

[CLOUD 500]

^^^^^
Indeed and excellent at pushing the Liberal agenda. If it is not a Liberal stance not matter how damaging it is, he will use wokeness to twist what you wrote. But now after two years the narrative must end. Omicron is just like a cold and destroying the economy and mental health is not justifyed anymore. The original strain was definitely deadly but the other variants are much less lethal. It is the same pattern the Spanish flu followed, first strain was deadly but the other ones not so dangerous. See how all airports are over crowded, ppl are going crazy wanting to travel. I just do not understand what is politicians problem with people having their freedom and choosing what is best for them. The same goes for abortions, sex work, and covid mandates.

 

[wetnose]

Coming out ahead in this grim contest is no big prize but I'd take it nonetheless. No doubt mistakes were made, but I am thankful a lot of Canadians get to live another day. Could be someone's grandpa, or someone else who doesn't have to live with long covid. We made it.

Canada outperformed most G10 countries during first two years of pandemic response: study

Canada handled key aspects of the COVID-19 response better in the first two years of the pandemic than most G10 countries, according to a new study by researchers from the University of Toronto, Unity Health Toronto and St. Michael's hospital.

www.ctvnews.ca

Canada handled key aspects of the response to the COVID-19 pandemic better in the first two years of the health emergency than most G10 countries

Researchers from the University of Toronto and Unity Health Toronto compared COVID-19 infection, death, excess mortality and vaccination rates, social and public health restrictions and economic performance to determine how the G10 countries performed.

The countries — including Canada, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States — were chosen due to similarities in their economic and political models, per-capita income levels and population size.

Canada's rate of COVID-19 deaths was also second-lowest among countries included in the study, at 919 deaths per one million, as was its excess mortality rate, which incorporates the number of deaths during a period of crisis like the COVID-19 pandemic compared to the expected number of deaths in nominal conditions. Only Japan's COVID-19 death and excess mortality rates were lower, despite the country's lower vaccination rates, less severe restrictions and older population.

 

[IamNY]

If the US had done as well as us, 600,000+ Americans would be alive today. No doubt we all had to make sacrifices, but I am thankful a lot of Canadians get to live another day. Could be someone's grandpa, or someone else who doesn't have to live with long covid.

Didnt know it was a competition, congratulations.

 

[sene5hos]

Didnt know it was a competition, congratulations.

No it's an observation.

 

[sene5hos]

The latest on the coronavirus | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

Harvard Chan School experts offer comments and context about the coronavirus in a variety of media outlets.

www.hsph.harvard.edu

Indoor gyms, bars, offices, nursing and retirement homes, and crowded indoor events are all likely places where people can get reinfected with COVID, given that new Omicron subvariants BA.4 and BA.5 are circulating.

North Korea is likely experiencing a huge COVID-19 outbreak, according to experts, and it’s likely that much of the population is unvaccinated. “Controlling omicron in the absence of vaccination is a ghastly task,” said William Hanage, associate professor of epidemiology. “We can expect a very rapid surge.”

He estimated that North Korea could see around 50,000 deaths, and several times that many hospitalizations.

 

[sene5hos]

What Omicron’s BA.4 and BA.5 variants mean for the pandemic

The lineages’ rise seems to stem from their ability to infect people who were immune to earlier forms of Omicron and other variants.

www.nature.com

The BA.4 and BA.5 subvariants are spiking globally because they can spread faster than other circulating variants — mostly BA.2, which caused a surge in cases at the beginning of the year.
But so far, the latest Omicron variants seem to be causing fewer deaths and hospitalizations than their older cousins — a sign that growing population immunity is tempering the immediate consequences of COVID-19 surges.

 

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^^^^^^ Excellent article, as always from "Nature". Thanks @sene5hos
I will only copy the conclusion for those not reading the full content.

One possible future for SARS-CoV-2 is that it will become like the other four seasonal coronaviruses, the levels of which ebb and flow with the seasons, usually peaking in winter and typically reinfecting people every three years or so, Althaus says. “The big question is whether symptoms will become milder and milder and whether issues with long COVID will slowly disappear,” he says. “If it stays like it is now, then it will be a serious public-health problem.”

 

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The pandemic’s true health cost: how much of our lives has COVID stolen?

Researchers are trying to calculate how many years have been lost to disability and death.

www.nature.com

 

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COVID-19 29 juin 2022. Tous les indicateurs sont à la hausse. Restons prudents. Perso, je continuerai à porter le masque en présence de foule comme au Festival de Jazz de Montréal ou à l'intérieur lorsque la densité de clients empêchera une saine distanciation. Nous sommes tous dans le même bateau, quoique certains ne l'ont pas encore réalisé et vivent encore dans le déni.

Le déni est une notion utilisée en psychanalyse pour désigner le fait de refuser, de façon inconsciente, une partie ou l'ensemble d'une réalité. Le déni peut porter sur un sentiment ou une émotion, mais aussi sur des faits qui se sont produits.

On dit qu'une image vaut mille mots...

 

[gaby]

DR.BOILEAU ce jour....le Québec a ''tous les éléments'' d'une 7ème vague... augmentation notable des hospitalisations ces derniers jours....et les nouveaux variants sont responsables des 3/4 des nouveaux cas.....recommande aux personnes à risque
de porter le masque....mieux vaut être prévenu....on parle moins de la COVID ----élections obligent---MAIS le virus rôde toujours et continue de faire des dégâts....et des décès continuent d'être recensés....soyons sur nos gardes.