Life expectancy is still increasing. The rate has lowered, but the growth is still positive. The impact on the decline in the GROWTH RATE (means positive not negative), is attributed to COVID, but that is doubtful for the reasons i already mentioned above.
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Take the time to read the underlying report
Effects of covid-19 pandemic on life expectancy and premature mortality in 2020: time series analysis in 37 countries
Objective To estimate the changes in life expectancy and years of life lost in 2020 associated with the covid-19 pandemic. Design Time series analysis. Setting 37 upper-middle and high income countries or regions with reliable and complete mortality data. Participants Annual all cause...
Population can grow and life expectancy drop. The two are different things. You said "life expectancy did not drop". I showed you data that shows that's wrong, but willing to look at anything you have that says it's true.
Unless it's simply your opinion that "it didn't do anything to life expectancy"
Take the time to read the underlying report
A little more detailed than what you'll get by a googleEffects of covid-19 pandemic on life expectancy and premature mortality in 2020: time series analysis in 37 countries
Objective To estimate the changes in life expectancy and years of life lost in 2020 associated with the covid-19 pandemic. Design Time series analysis. Setting 37 upper-middle and high income countries or regions with reliable and complete mortality data. Participants Annual all cause...www.bmj.com
Population can grow and life expectancy drop. The two are different things. You said "life expectancy did not drop". I showed you data that shows that's wrong, but willing to look at anything you have that says it's true.
Unless it's simply your opinion that "it didn't do anything to life expectancy"
U.S. Life Expectancy 1950-2023
Chart and table of U.S. life expectancy from 1950 to 2023. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.
www.macrotrends.net
World Life Expectancy 1950-2023
Chart and table of World life expectancy from 1950 to 2023. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.
www.macrotrends.net
Life Expectancy by Country and in the World (2023) - Worldometer
List of countries and dependencies in the world ranked by life expectancy at birth, both sexes, males and females. World Population Life Expectancy with historical chart
www.worldometers.info
Main outcome measures Reduction in life expectancy was estimated as the difference between observed and expected life expectancy in 2020 using the Lee-Carter model. Excess years of life lost were estimated as the difference between the observed and expected years of life lost in 2020 using the World Health Organization standard life table.
This is the definition from the article on what the study is about.
It clearly specifies that it is the difference between observed and expected. So it is not a general value as to positive or negative to previous, but to expected. The negative difference to expected is to be blamed on COVID. This is again a manipulation. This study wants to give the idea that it is in decline as a general value, while in truth, it is simply a decline from expected values. And again, COVID is blamed, even though, it has become common knowledge that some cases should not have been claimed as COVID.
Regardless, the general values is still a positive one.
This is the definition from the article on what the study is about.
It clearly specifies that it is the difference between observed and expected. So it is not a general value as to positive or negative to previous, but to expected. The negative difference to expected is to be blamed on COVID. This is again a manipulation. This study wants to give the idea that it is in decline as a general value, while in truth, it is simply a decline from expected values. And again, COVID is blamed, even though, it has become common knowledge that some cases should not have been claimed as COVID.
Regardless, the general values is still a positive one.
U.S. Life Expectancy 1950-2023
Chart and table of U.S. life expectancy from 1950 to 2023. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.World Life Expectancy 1950-2023
Chart and table of World life expectancy from 1950 to 2023. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.You can find many more, and they all state that life expectancy has grown. It is pretty obvious that life expectancy and population growth are a fact.Life Expectancy by Country and in the World (2023) - Worldometer
List of countries and dependencies in the world ranked by life expectancy at birth, both sexes, males and females. World Population Life Expectancy with historical chart
Do you even read what you quote ?
"NOTE: All 2020 and later data are UN projections and DO NOT include any impacts of the COVID-19 virus."
LOL
Ouch! Did not see that. However, it does raise an eyebrow. Why aren't the values computed. It is not like the databases are not available. The count is still on, so they should be able to integrate it. Maybe because the difference will be marginal? I tried many other searches, there is not a single source that uses any other thing than projections (even the study you posted, since it is actual vs expected, which is based on projections). Therefore, and since no single claim is made that life expectancy has actually shrunk, it is safe to assume that it has indeed increased in absolute value.
Hotez: Even fully vaccinated people are at risk from extremely contagious BA.5 variant
Dr. Peter Hotez discusses long- and short-term concerns with the COVID pandemic
www.houstonchronicle.com
If you could, walk me through BA.5. There’s a lot being written about it now, and much of it ominous.
The BA.5 looks like it is the most highly transmissible virus agent we’ve seen of the COVID-19 family so far. Maybe more so than omicron. How much of that is due to transmissibility versus immune escape is up for scientific debate. But there’s no question right now, even if you’re fully vaccinated, you’re at risk of infection. We’re seeing a steep increase in the number of cases.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention put out data for May, and it clearly shows if you’re over the age of 50, there’s a big difference whether you’re unvaccinated, partially vaccinated – meaning one to two doses – and vaccinated and boosted one time or two times. People are not dying if they’re vaccinated and boosted times two. If you’re not boosted, risk for hospitalization goes up.
What I’m telling people: The most impactful thing you can do to protect yourself and your family is to be mindful of your vaccine status. Take advantage of what’s available. The next most important thing to do with the transmission going on indoors is to wear a mask. Boy, that’s been a tough sell, though.
Ontario woman enduring effects of long COVID begins process for medically assisted death
Contracting COVID-19 radically changed Tracey Thompson's life. The Toronto woman says the enduring illness and lack of substantive financial support has led her to begin the process of ending her life.
Contracting COVID-19 radically changed Tracey Thompson’s life. It’s been more than two years since the initial infection, but her symptoms still dictate her days, leaving her with heavy-weighted fatigue, robbing her of energy and her ability to work.
Thompson, a Toronto resident in her 50s, says the enduring illness and lack of substantive financial support has led her to begin the process of applying for Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD), a procedure that first became legal in Canada in 2016.
“[MAiD] is exclusively a financial consideration,” she told CTV News Toronto.
After 26 months of lost income since the onset of symptoms, no foreseeable ability to work and an absence of support, Thompson said she expects to run out of money in about five months.
“My choices are basically to die slowly and painfully, or quickly. Those are the options that are left,” she said.
In addition to severe fatigue, Thompson lists a number of symptoms she’s developed from long COVID: she can no longer read books or text longer than a Tweet. Her vision usually begins to blur around sunset. It’s difficult for her to digest food. Her taste and smell have been altered. Some days, the oxygen exchange in her lungs is compromised, making it difficult to breathe. Scars mark her heart from the swelling she experienced from myocarditis.
QUÉBEC....nos urgences débordent again......le système s'effondre..... triste triste triste réalité/ situation....avec plus de 7,000 travailleurs absents et la COVID avec près de 2,000 hospitalisations....nous sommes au bord du gouffre...DUBÉ promet de redresser
la situation dans les prochaines années...MAIS en attendant c'est le désastre.....faut aussi dire que la situation n'est guère meilleure dans le reste du Canada.
la situation dans les prochaines années...MAIS en attendant c'est le désastre.....faut aussi dire que la situation n'est guère meilleure dans le reste du Canada.
QUÉBEC....nos urgences débordent again......le système s'effondre..... triste triste triste réalité/ situation....avec plus de 7,000 travailleurs absents et la COVID avec près de 2,000 hospitalisations....nous sommes au bord du gouffre...DUBÉ promet de redresser
la situation dans les prochaines années...MAIS en attendant c'est le désastre.....faut aussi dire que la situation n'est guère meilleure dans le reste du Canada.
Le système de santé ailleurs souffre, mais pas au même niveau que le Québec. Dans les "grosses" provinces (Ontario, BC, Alberta..) le Quebec dépense plus par capita et a moins de service. C'est beau les promesses de "dans 4 ans" et croire a St-Dubé, mais ca fait 4 ans que la CAQ est là. Mr Legault aime bien se vanter comment il est meilleur que tout le monde, mais il choisit bien les points sur lesquels il se vante.
The owner of the company believes everybody is free to make their own decisions. Same with my wife's workplace.
Justin can suck my unwashed dick after a long day working outside in the heat, or better yet, he can suck a fart outta my ass.
J'aimerais bien que des journalistes fassent leur travail et aillent vérifier les chiffres dans les hôpitaux.QUÉBEC....encore 17 décès hier
c'est vrai MAIS devront le dire SOUVENT haut et fort....sinon le tourbillon va encore nous emporter et le réseau de santé ----toujours si fragile---va encore déborder.....et à ce moment là quel discours tiendront-ils????....à suivre.
Pas seulement le nombre de patients, mais poser des questions sur le nombre de ceux qui sont là à cause du COVID et ceux qui sont là pour autre chose mais qui ont le COVID.
Même questions pour les décès. Je ne crois plus le gouvernement. Les experts ne sont pas capables de trouver pourquoi le Québec enregistre un nombre élevé de décès dus au COVID mais une faible surmortalité.
Ils nous mentent depuis le début et malheureusement la majorité des gens se sont fait avoir.
Exactly. It's all BS. They've been doing it since the beginning. I went to two different hospitals four times when they were supposed to be overflowing. The damn place, including the ICUs, were empty.
Indeed. One of my family member has to go to the hospital every week for blood thinner, and from what I am told all looks the same as usual. Hospital over crowding is the same problem we had for the past 20 years. Definitely not a covid problem. Consider this a virus so deadly that the media need to keep reminding everyone multiple times a day at how deadly it is. Lol
L'Ontario en a 1000.
2x plus de population et 2x moins d'hospitalisations. C'est pas un peu bizarre ?
Serait-ce dû au fait que peut-être l'Ontario ne comptabilise que véritablement les seuls cas hospitalisés pour la CODID seulement....alors qu'ici on comptabiliserait ceux qui sont d'abord hospitalisés pour autre chose MAIS chez qui on diagnostique par après la COVID
.....comme ce fut mon cas en Avril dernier...???....mais j'admets que l'écart demeure considérable......on a plus plus de festivals ici.....lol.
.....comme ce fut mon cas en Avril dernier...???....mais j'admets que l'écart demeure considérable......on a plus plus de festivals ici.....lol.
Il y a 2 questions. La première est "Combien d'hospitalisés sont atteints de COVID"? Un patient COVID demande un environnement spécifique car on veut éviter la contamination du personnel et des autres patients. La deuxième est "Combien sont hospitalisé pour des symptômes COVID, plus particulièrement troubles respiratoires"? D'autres part, on sait que des patients diabétiques décompensent lorsque atteint de COVID et requièrent des soins urgents. Leurs symptômes sont très différents de ceux d'une COVID conventionnelle mais non moins importants et sont dûs à l'infection par le virus SARS-Cov2. Un patient COVID est donc une charge importante sur le système hospitalier quelque soit la raison de son hospitalisation. Enfin, la population est plus âgée au Québec qu'en Ontario. Tout cela peut expliquer une différence dans les chiffres officiels mais ne change rien à la situation. Les urgences et le système hospitalier est sous tension et la seule façon de remédier à la situation est la vaccination avec les doses de rappel pour contrer les variants Omicron. Ajoutons la prudence et l'éducation. Il y a encore beaucoup trop de faussetés et/ou d'ignorance véhiculés sur divers forum.
Encore aujourd'hui, bien qu"étant très minoritaires, les non-vaccinés font les frais de leur décision. Ils comptent pour plus de 52% des hospitalisations et des décès.
Toutes les données ici: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/
Toutes les données ici: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/
Interesting that when it comes to deaths, a single booster doesn't give much protection.
We should be careful with interpreting those numbers, looking at 1 graph.. Only around 50% of the population got 1 booster shot and those are among the most fragile, older or immuno-compromised.
The numbers just tell that 19% of the deaths have received 1 booster shot.
Those interested, take time to read the full datas. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/
The numbers just tell that 19% of the deaths have received 1 booster shot.
Those interested, take time to read the full datas. https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/
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