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COVID's vaccine, by whom, when, effective? all around the vaccine

wetnose

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I really like how Ontario pins hospitalizations on the unvaccinated

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Idiots are paying the stupid tax, but now the rest of society gets dragged in. I don't have the same #s for QC but I don't expect them to be radically different.

Cross your fingers that you or any of your loved ones don't have to use the hospital for the next 2 months.

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Here's a quote from an EMT, after learning all ICU is maxed:

As an EMT, this scenario has been dreaded, but anticipated, for weeks now.

We show up to your house, and transport you because you had a heart attack or stroke, or fell off a ladder and hit your head. Or maybe you were in a car accident caused by a drunk driver or bad weather or just bad luck.

Where do we take you? Hospitals are full, no ICU beds. Here in upstate NY we sometimes wait 3 to 4 HOURS outside the hospital with the patient in the ambulance because there are no beds in the ER. And while we are waiting, we cannot respond to other calls that come in.

People will die in this scenario from injuries or medical issues that were treatable. And that makes me angry. Not sure who to blame. Government, anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, businesses that dont enforce rules, the list seems endless.

But watching a patient die in the back of an ambulance, 100 feet from the ER doors, because there is no capacity to provide care, is something I dont wish on anyone.
 
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The third jab strengthens the immune system, so after the fourth dose you are protected, and when 80% of population has received the fifth dose we are close to a resolution because the sixth dose stops the virus from multiplying and prevents it from spreading, which means the seventh dose will solve our problems and we no longer have to to be afraid of the eighth dose because clinical studies with the ninth dose have shown that antibodies are more stable after the tenth dose and the eleventh dose ensures that there will be no new mutations, so there is no reason to criticize the idea of a twelfth dose.
 

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LCN, asked several doctors in hospitals, and the results = in intensive care patients are: non-vaccinated and elderly people who received only 2 doses.

Because of the unvaccinated people there are a lot of appointment cancellations, and the most serious is a lot of surgeries are canceled.

It's clear.
 

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This is very disturbing;

Overwhelming’ Numbers of Heart Attacks, Clotting, Strokes​


This is very disturbing;

Overwhelming’ Numbers of Heart Attacks, Clotting, Strokes​


Now this is very disturbing for me. My 80+ year old dad gets vax booster then a week later is now in hospital with myocarditis.
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Another Quebec ICU bed statistic for the day.
At least his favourite Sugarbaby is by his side.
I talk too much and might stress him into a heart attack.
Last week and earlier he was swimming at the pool an hour every day.

Edit: Next day no stroke, no heart attack but confirmed heart inflammation causing dizziness and lethargy. Close call.
Add this link: Myocarditis and Pericarditis After mRNA COVID-19 Vaccinationhttps://www.cdc.gov › 2019-ncov › vaccines › safety
Case doctor said vaccination was irrelevant. I asked anyway.
 
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Unbelievable! I'm seeing reports that Quebec government is gonna make getting a booster shot mandatory for vaccine passport! Wtf!

Ok I was down with getting the 2 doses but now this??

They keep pushing the envelope, this Legault government!
 

Halloween Mike

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Voicemail caller explains his sister's anti-vaccine conspiracism, which has gone completely off the rails.

Once a person becomes a cult member, they would rather die than have their beliefs challenged.

As much as I hate to admit , I think his sister is a lost cause, if she could use logic, she wouldn't be so far gone.

There will always be extreme on each sides. I posted something in a FB group today about how i am completely against this form of governement tracking and control on telling me where i can go or not and leaving an electronic trace of it. This is not a "conspiracy" or anything, its facts ! Thats exactly what is happening right now and my opinion on it.

Then there was this 50 something years old lady that started to tell me about PCR test being to collect DNA and that they were injecting peoples with microchips and the usual nutcrap you see peoples use to denigrate everyone that is against the current narrative. Well news flash, i find this woman as dumb as you ... She clearly lost it. But that is a fraction of the peoples who are genuinly worried about this situation.
 

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LCN, asked several doctors in hospitals, and the results = in intensive care patients are: non-vaccinated and elderly people who received only 2 doses.

Because of the unvaccinated people there are a lot of appointment cancellations, and the most serious is a lot of surgeries are canceled.

It's clear.
So, if we are to understand correctly, with only 15 percent non vaccinated, our situation is worst than when we were 100 percent not vaccinated? This has become a circus, if you so concerned, try to influence that clown to increase capacity instead of shrinking it. Bring back the personnel, let the non vaccinated take care of the non vaccinated. This administration thinks by increasing punitive measures, we are going to get vaccinated!! They are a serious bunch of idiots. They think taking away rights is ok. He sees Austria, and other European countries do it, so he follows... It is interesting to see how far people are willing to be stepped on like that. Being not vaccinated is the new sin. We are now sinners, and we should be punished. Corruption has been sinking our governments in the west, maybe COVID will bring that clarity and our people will revolt on these leaders and re-establish liberties and justice as we were always known to have.
 
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wetnose

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Unbelievable! I'm seeing reports that Quebec government is gonna make getting a booster shot mandatory for vaccine passport! Wtf!

Ok I was down with getting the 2 doses but now this??

They keep pushing the envelope, this Legault government!

It's not just Legault's government - expect all governments to make the same announcement over the next few months.
 

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Being not vaccinated is the new DEADLY sin. Oh yes!
Not unless you believe that Mother Nature is getting back at humanity for all the abuse she has suffered. This plague that has caused so much harm to our lifestyle , health and all around well being may be around for a while. Then there is the new and improved Vax that the US army has started testing. If you don`t trust a vax from big Pharma would you trust one from the US military ? Hmmm
 

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Diane Lamarre-- Pharmacienne---TVA ce matin.....2 doses vs OMICRIN protègent à 30%....et 3 doses à 88%...so do your math ;) .
The real question is how long till you need the fourth shot ;).It is like drinking Vodka, the effect wanes, then you need to take more. The more you take, the less the effect stays, so the more you need to take.
don’t get what the big deal some posters make about getting boosters for a long period of time.
No one knows yet, that is why the mandates and the forcing are repulsive, and a complete rape of our right to choose. They are just shoving them in us, in the HOPES that it will stop the pandemic, which it obviously completely failed to do. But of course, it is not their fault, it is always somebody's else. The flu shot are not mandatory, but advised to old people, and have a success rate of 50 percent I think but not sure.
Being not vaccinated is the new DEADLY sin. Oh yes!
Not sure how to answer this in a civilized manner, but I think the hatred you hold calls for you to take some Yoga lessons. [...]
 
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Is anyone as surprised as me that there is not more backlash and protests in the streets over the 10pm curfew, particularly among young people? Complacency, no?

In most American cities, at this stage of the game - two years into pandemic - I doubt this tyranny would fly.
 
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CLOUD 500

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Unbelievable! I'm seeing reports that Quebec government is gonna make getting a booster shot mandatory for vaccine passport! Wtf!

Ok I was down with getting the 2 doses but now this??

They keep pushing the envelope, this Legault government!
This is not the end because of bow down to the government idiots who keep on complying and trust the government. They are prepping us to take boosters every 6 months.

 
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CLOUD 500

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Is anyone as surprised as me that there is not more backlash and protests in the streets over the 10pm curfew, particularly among young people? Complacency, no?

In most American cities, at this stage of the game - two years into pandemic - I doubt this tyranny would fly.
As I said many times Quebecors are not interested in having their freedom. Most are disciples of Karl Marx. I do not think this would fly in Alberta or even Ontario.
 
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I don’t get what the big deal some posters make about getting boosters for a long period of time.

We get annual flu shots, and many allergy sufferers get monthly shots.
Because deep down inside, they are uncertain and unconvinced. They probably read the article you posted and wonder who the fuck is Elizabeth Weise and what exactly is this 'new evidence' she references that I should randomly believe in. They've become desensitized to the 24/7 impending disaster news feeds while watching Florida do nothing in regards to lockdowns, closures and mandates and have yet to see the state turn into a zombie apocalypse and pretty much experience the same level distress as other states and provinces.

Contrary to the annual flu shot example, they've probably never taken one (I never have). They are wondering why they should believe Fauci today, when he outright lied or was wrong when he said in an interview sometime ago that by taking the vaccine, it would be a dead end for the virus - and wasn't, not even for the other strains. And to Cloudsurfs question, they may not know anyone with adverse reactions to the vaccine, but they also know of little if any people directly around them that have died or become seriously ill. And they realize that covid deaths get recorded immediately, but real adverse reactions or deaths associated with the vaccine will take some time to catch up.

They wonder about these stats people throw around, like 98% of doctors support the vaccine, and wonder, is this 98% of doctors who are willing to speak? Over the past 18 months, I've spoken to 4 doctors in a professional and personal capacity. Two out of the four told me they wouldn't take the vaccine. My guess is the two against it (and who knows if they've since taken it), would never say this publicly. We know who gets 'cancelled' when they speak against, not the majority, but the loudest for a cause.

And lastly, most Americans (and Canadians) generally do the right thing, until they are told to.

Oh, and they watch videos like this that claim it is supported by a large swath of doctors and they don't know if any of it is really true, but think it sounds compelling.

 

CLOUD 500

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I don’t get what the big deal some posters make about getting boosters for a long period of time.

We get annual flu shots, and many allergy sufferers get monthly shots.
The big deal is we are being forced to take it and the government is locking people down and adding restrictions, covid has been turned into about politics. And the way the media keeps on advertising 24/7 the same doomsday messaging to keep people scared. That is the big deal. The government had 21 months to improve the healthcare but it is still the same. Trudope keeps on bringing immigrants/refugees but healthcare budget remains the same. They rather lock us down then increase the budget for healthcare. The last time I checked there was no vaccine passports for the flu and they were not locking down people and adding restrictions for the flu like forced masks.
 
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cloudsurf

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The big deal is we are being forced to take it and the government is locking people down and adding restrictions, covid has been turned into about politics. And the way the media keeps on advertising 24/7 the same doomsday messaging to keep people scared. That is the big deal. The government had 21 months to improve the healthcare but it is still the same. Trudope keeps on bringing immigrants/refugees but healthcare budget remains the same. They rather lock us down then increase the budget for healthcare. The last time I checked there was no vaccine passports for the flu and they were not locking down people and adding restrictions for the flu like forced masks.
Why are you blaming a democratic government when this is a world wide problem, and a harsh reaction is in effect from governments led by fascists to communists ,. They are issuing some form of mandates and lockdowns. Maybe even a couple of anarchist leaders too. Maybe its not early to apply for a flight to Mars.
 
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