COVID's vaccine, by whom, when, effective? all around the vaccine

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Pfizer says it's time for a Covid booster; FDA and CDC say not so fast​

(CNN)Drugmaker Pfizer said Thursday it is seeing waning immunity from its coronavirus vaccine and says it is picking up its efforts to develop a booster dose that will protect people from variants.

Pfizer says it's time for a Covid booster; FDA and CDC say not so fast

Pfizer says it is seeing waning immunity from its coronavirus vaccine and says it is picking up its efforts to develop a booster dose that will protect people from variants.

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The situation in UK and Canada toward a booster dose.

U.K.'s vaccine advisory group has already released recommendations around booster shots​

At this point, Canadian experts say, the existing COVID-19 vaccine schedule is offering excellent protection, including against the delta variant. But it's not yet known, they say, how long that protection lasts in various populations — and therefore when or whether a booster shot will be needed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-third-dose-booster-shots-1.6092834

 

[cloudsurf]

Pfizer is getting much of its most updated information from studies of the general population in Israel.
That country was first to vaccinate a majority of its citizens with double Pfizer shots.
Now its showing 35% of that inoculated population being re-infected with covid (mostly the Delta variant).
That is a signal for Pfizer to start producing a more effective booster shot against variants.

 

[sene5hos]

Republican lawmakers and personalities continue to push ridiculous lies about the safety of the COVID vaccine, as well as the COVID policies of the Biden administration. This is happening as COVID infections are going back up, and as the death toll is almost exclusively people who haven't been vaccinated. So by pushing these lies, Republicans appear to be trying to kill their own base, with isn't a good business strategy - and its definitely a bad electoral strategy.

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It's called natural selection, Darwin's theory being applied to real world situation. This will just get rid of the stupid people that will not get the shot.

mod: since this started as a post about vaccination, this is moved in this thread instead of the one where it was, about the Republicans

 

[Flabert]

So natural selection is the explanation for the disproportionate number of black and brown people dying of Covid?

They still have a drastically lower vaccination level and low intent to get vaccinated while arguably living more risky lives (weight, base health, living conditions).

Come on, stop seeing the world as a one note song. Let’s hope we can help everyone get vaccinated without becoming zealots. The death rate for Covid is not insignificant but it is also not sustained and population changing - what you would need for your natural selection theory to work.

 

[IamNY]

It's called natural selection, Darwin's theory being applied to real world situation. This will just get rid of the stupid people that will not get the shot.

mod: since this started as a post about vaccination, this is moved in this thread instead of the one where it was, about the Republicans

I have a friend that will not get vaccinated. I said he was an anti vacc’er but he explained to me that he was pro immune system. I may disagree with him, but it’s his right to whatever he wants. People pushing others to get vaccinated in his eyes are no different than the “stupid” people you refer to.

last time I checked COVID kills people from all walks of life, but you think it’s only Republicans. Not sure what news they are feeding you up there, but I think it’s time to change the channel.

 

[Fradi]

last time I checked COVID kills people from all walks of life, but you think it’s only Republicans. Not sure what news they are feeding you up there, but I think it’s time to change the channel.

It evolved at first it was just Trump supporters now it is all Republicans. Guess it is like the virus it mutates. This is the new variant.
Hope there will be a vaccine for this.

 

[sene5hos]

Covid-19 should have never been politicized, and still shouldn’t be.

I blame the media more so than political parties. The media now politicizes everything and finds the extremists on both ends.

I don't want to start from unnecessary discussions, I just want to give my opinion.

Covid-19 should have never been politicized, and still shouldn’t be.

I don't agree, because if you left the decisions to the people, it would have been a total catastrophe, already there many speak only of their individual freedom.

I blame the media more so than political parties. The media now politicizes everything and finds the extremists on both ends.

We should not try to blame politicians and the media. It's time to help each other. Covid is not just a disease, it is a global pandemic.

Some presidents have chosen the economy over humans.

 

[sene5hos]

Republican Governors have been the most adamant about getting the country reopened, but now their plans are hitting a snag: Their residents within their own Party are the ones refusing to get vaccinated.
Now these governors are having to make public pleas to their voters by begging them to please go and get vaccinated so that we can all move forward.
This plea is coming a little too late for many Republicans who have already made up their minds that they don't want the vaccine.
It's a sad day when people make a medical decision based on political affiliation rather than the advice of their doctors.

These folks want to make their own personal medical decisions.
Of course, they don't want women to be able to make their own personal reproductive medical decisions.

 

[Halloween Mike]

I have a friend that will not get vaccinated. I said he was an anti vacc’er but he explained to me that he was pro immune system. I may disagree with him, but it’s his right to whatever he wants. People pushing others to get vaccinated in his eyes are no different than the “stupid” people you refer to.

last time I checked COVID kills people from all walks of life, but you think it’s only Republicans. Not sure what news they are feeding you up there, but I think it’s time to change the channel.

I will not get vaccinated against Covid either. I am not against vaccines in general but i don't want to take this one specifically. I am rather young, healthy, i don't fear dying from Covid, i am sure my immunity system will flush it itself IF i get it, and thats a big IF because the chances are very small. If Covid is still around when i get to 50 years old and the vaccines been proven to be completely safe by then, then ill reconsider. But in my 30s i DO NOT NEED IT.

 

[gaby]

J'apprécie vraiment la mise au point du Dr.Fauci sur le booster COVID-19.....he said....not so fast.....en insistant sur le fait que c'est avant tout à la FDA et CDC qu'il revient de prendre la décision... et qu'il était encore prématuré de le faire à ce stade ci.

Pfizer s'est même excusé....pas vraiment le choix.....MAIS at the end of the day l'on sait bien que la pharmaceutique ----qui s'y connaît quand même en la matière----aura fort probablement raison.

 

[IamNY]

Republican Governors have been the most adamant about getting the country reopened, but now their plans are hitting a snag: Their residents within their own Party are the ones refusing to get vaccinated. Now these governors are having to make public pleas to their voters by begging them to please go and get vaccinated so that we can all move forward. This plea is coming a little too late for many Republicans who have already made up their minds that they don't want the vaccine.
It's a sad day when people make a medical decision based on political affiliation rather than the advice of their doctors.

These folks want to make their own personal medical decisions.
Of course, they don't want women to be able to make their own personal reproductive medical decisions.

The people who make these ridiculous types of analogies are the same people who will deny that crime is running rampant in Dumbocrat states. We are all in this together. When Trump was president it was the federal governments fault, and now that we have sippy cup Joe in office they shift their blame back over to the states and local governments. When I got my vaccination they didn't ask for my political affiliation, because it should have NOTHING to do with this. If people of either political affiliation decide to not get vaccinated so be it and who gives a shit. It's a sad day when people make personal medical decisions based on what the bullshit media outlets decide what it wants to cover to boost their ratings. This article clearly is the byproduct of that.

 

[Fradi]

While Pfizer is obviously in favour of a booster shot as it is not only profitable for them but keeps them in the forefront of news and leading contender of vaccines
I don’t trust the little leprechaun no mask, then need masks Fauci one bit, he is a media hound and opportunistic brown nose to which ever government is in power.
His predictions and opinions are on par with his baseball pitching ability.
I would trust the leading vaccine manufacturer to conduct trials and publish their findings much more than anything the fake leprechaun has to say.
I will get the booster shot as soon as it is available just like I did with the 2 doses of vaccine.

 

[gaby]

On peut aimer ou non Dr. Fauci----qui a travaillé sous les Repubs et maintenant avec les Dems----c'est une question d'opinion--d'appréciation....MAIS on ne peut pas passer outre à des organisations telles FDA --CDC ou Santé Canada ici qui sont des remparts nécessaires et incontournables pour la protection de la santé de ses citoyens...ce sont des organisations sérieuses qui mesurent---évaluent bien les conséquences de leur décision...jamais je n'irais à l'encontre de leurs recommandations.....ils sont des garde-fous absolument nécessaires face à l'appétit insatiable des pharmaceutiques...my 2 cents.

 

[IamNY]

IMHO what the FDA needs to do is get their shit together and look to officially approve the vaccines instead of just giving them emergency use approval.

 

[CLOUD 500]

IMHO what the FDA needs to do is get their shit together and look to officially approve the vaccines instead of just giving them emergency use approval.

In order to do that they need full data on phase 3 trials. Fact is the long-term effectiveness and long-term effects of these vaccines is unknown.

 

[CLOUD 500]

I will not get vaccinated against Covid either. I am not against vaccines in general but i don't want to take this one specifically.

I agree with you, I also do not want to take this vaccine main reason being the long term effects are unknown plus the chance of severe reactions are possible. It is not FDA approved yet, so till they are FDA approved and all data on phase 3 trials are available I prefer to not get this vaccine.

 

[sene5hos]

I agree with you, I also do not want to take this vaccine main reason being the long term effects are unknown plus the chance of severe reactions are possible. It is not FDA approved yet, so till they are FDA approved and all data on phase 3 trials are available I prefer to not get this vaccine.

COVID-19 Vaccines

The FDA has regulatory processes in place to facilitate the development of COVID-19 vaccines that meet the FDA's rigorous scientific standards.

www.fda.gov

The FDA has regulatory processes in place to facilitate the development of COVID-19 vaccines that meet the FDA's rigorous scientific standards.

COVID-19 Vaccines Authorized for Emergency Use.

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine
Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine

 

[gallantca]

COVID-19 Vaccines

The FDA has regulatory processes in place to facilitate the development of COVID-19 vaccines that meet the FDA's rigorous scientific standards.

www.fda.gov

The FDA has regulatory processes in place to facilitate the development of COVID-19 vaccines that meet the FDA's rigorous scientific standards.

COVID-19 Vaccines Authorized for Emergency Use.

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine
Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine

Yes, the FDA has a process that they can approve a drug for emergency use IF the risks of not using the drug outweigh the risk of the drug. But there is still a risk with the drug. That risk goes down with "full approval".

Cloud's and Mike's belief is that the risk of the drug, for them, outweighs the risk of disease. While I don't agree with him and I think that argument is flawed because it is incomplete, it is their right.

I have met people that are truly afraid of this vaccine. It isn't political, it's true fear and mistrust of the vaccine.

A good idea is not to use American news, media and publications to get valid data. There are billions of people in other countries that we can learn what to do and what not to do without the ridiculous political and media bias. All countries have these flaws, but the US, like everything else does it bigger than Texas.

 

[gallantca]

If you think the U.S. and Canada have shitty governments, consider Australia’s.

Canada has shitty government for many things but I'd say we handled Covid better than most. And unlike many, I think we learned something