COVID's vaccine, by whom, when, effective? all around the vaccine

[sene5hos]

Liste des vaccins disponibles - Vaccins - Professionnels de la santé - MSSS

Protocoles des vaccins et du test cutané à la tuberculine, disponibles au Québec : composants, indications, précautions, calendrier, efficacité, diphtérie, coqueluche, tétanos, hépatite B, poliomyélite et H. influenzæ de type b, grippe, influenza, hépatite A, hépatite B, HAHB, méningocoque...

www.msss.gouv.qc.ca

Here is the list of all available vaccines, 12 of which are mandatory.

In 2018, vaccinations against diphtheria, tetanus, polio, pertussis, Haemophilus influenzae b, hepatitis B, meningococcus C, pneumococcus, measles, mumps and rubella are mandatory before age 2 years for infants born on or after January 1, 2018.

 

[sene5hos]

All unvaccinated are public dangers.

 

[Francoquart]

All unvaccinated are public dangers.

Wow, so deep man.... NO words, speechless..

 

[Nutsinho]

This is very disturbing;

Overwhelming’ Numbers of Heart Attacks, Clotting, Strokes​

More VC Nurses Blow Whistle on ‘Overwhelming’ Numbers of Heart Attacks, Clotting, Strokes - The Conejo Guardian

After the Conejo Guardian’s report on alarming trends in Ventura County hospitals, more nurses have come forward to affirm the rise in unexplained heart problems, strokes and blood clotting in local vaccinated patient populations.

conejoguardian.org

 

[Nutsinho]

If you have children or grand children take 4 minutes and listen.

I've told my daughter if she vaccinates her 6 year old I'm cutting her out of my will.

Dr. Robert Malone: Before You Inject Your Child! URGENT WARNING!!! All Parents Need To Hear This! YOUTUBE BANNED VIRAL VIDEO!

“Before you vaccinate your child, which is irreversible and potentially permanently damaging, find out why 15,000 physicians and medical scientists around the world signed a declaration publicly decla

rumble.com

 

[purplem]

This is very disturbing;

Overwhelming’ Numbers of Heart Attacks, Clotting, Strokes​

More VC Nurses Blow Whistle on ‘Overwhelming’ Numbers of Heart Attacks, Clotting, Strokes - The Conejo Guardian

After the Conejo Guardian’s report on alarming trends in Ventura County hospitals, more nurses have come forward to affirm the rise in unexplained heart problems, strokes and blood clotting in local vaccinated patient populations.

conejoguardian.org

The source is a far-right website of questionable accuracy.

 

[purplem]

If you have children or grand children take 4 minutes and listen.

I've told my daughter if she vaccinates her 6 year old I'm cutting her out of my will.

Dr. Robert Malone: Before You Inject Your Child! URGENT WARNING!!! All Parents Need To Hear This! YOUTUBE BANNED VIRAL VIDEO!

“Before you vaccinate your child, which is irreversible and potentially permanently damaging, find out why 15,000 physicians and medical scientists around the world signed a declaration publicly decla

rumble.com

Have you also told her that this is another far-right source of questionable accuracy?

 

[Womaniser]

The source is a far-right website of questionable accuracy.

The problem is that some people consult only those website.
On the political side, it's the same. Ex.
Fox News vs CNN, MSNBC, New-York Temes, Washington Post.

 

[cloudsurf]

If you have children or grand children take 4 minutes and listen.

I've told my daughter if she vaccinates her 6 year old I'm cutting her out of my will.

Dr. Robert Malone: Before You Inject Your Child! URGENT WARNING!!! All Parents Need To Hear This! YOUTUBE BANNED VIRAL VIDEO!

“Before you vaccinate your child, which is irreversible and potentially permanently damaging, find out why 15,000 physicians and medical scientists around the world signed a declaration publicly decla

rumble.com

Your twisted logic doesn`t work so you have to threaten her......how selfish is that.

 

[Francoquart]

If you have children or grand children take 4 minutes and listen.

I've told my daughter if she vaccinates her 6 year old I'm cutting her out of my will.

Dr. Robert Malone: Before You Inject Your Child! URGENT WARNING!!! All Parents Need To Hear This! YOUTUBE BANNED VIRAL VIDEO!

“Before you vaccinate your child, which is irreversible and potentially permanently damaging, find out why 15,000 physicians and medical scientists around the world signed a declaration publicly decla

rumble.com

What is it with this mentality of forcing your will on others?!?! This is sad? Do you know how many kids have been vaccinated? They did not loose their balls man!!! I hope she does not get intimidated by you. You need to let her do what She thinks is best not what you think is best.

 

[sene5hos]

Restaurant owner John Parney, who ignored Michigan's COVID shutdown laws, has died of COVID

 

[bonerland citizen]

Oh La la. Just a heads up.

Joe Rogan #1757 Dr Robert Malone.
Just released.
Joe Rogan is so big I doubt they can censor this one.

Don't worry Dr Malone is vaccinated with Moderna.
This podcast does not not seem to be pro or anti vaccine.
This is a 3 hour podcast.

Maybe on Spotify.
Premiering on youtube.

 

[Francoquart]

Pretty much summarizes what you need to know.

It isn’t the transmission of the virus that matters to most of us, it is what happens once you catch it.

Local hospital’s chief medical officer got COVID-19 for Christmas and urges vaccination

In an email to colleagues, the doctor described what happened to the vaccinated and unvaccinated members of his family. Hint: There’s a reason he’s urging people to get the shots.

www.yahoo.com

So what is the purpose of the passport then? This is pure BS. Now their claim focuses solely on hospitalization, because nature has exposed the transmission false claim, so now they only talk about severity. It might be true, but is it worth mandating, and making all this fuss? Most people, even severe cases end up ok, so no need for this Pushing and people loosing their jobs.

 

[bonerland citizen]

Oh La la. Just a heads up.

Joe Rogan #1757 Dr Robert Malone.

It was on youtube but the Joe Rogan #1757 Dr Robert Malone discussion seems to have been deleted then reposted by different users.
The comment section was available then was closed for the video.
Basically two men in discussion is censored within hours?? wtf.
Probably "Dangerous misinformation" to listen to a scientist.
Anyway how can any commoners such as most of us verify the credentials of a scientist and their sponsors?
Dr Malone a fake "planted" scientist to create fake conspiracy false flag? Who knows.
Maybe he talked too much of hospitals "Monetizing" covid.
Dr Tam is never censored.
Dr Malone has another side to the story?

Who would you vote for to guide public policy? Using body language and facial reading.

Dr Tam featured in Pandemic film anyone remember?
Actually youtube makes it very difficult to search for suspiciously.
It's a good watch. Using hockey riots as footage for "anti-vax" riots.
Interesting historical footage too.
Film is called "Outbreak: Anatomy of a Plague"
Best part 56:35

Dr Tam and National Film Board of Canada predicatively ...

The film is not censored but accounts that post it are mysteriously "removed"


Torontosun:
WARMINGTON: Tam talked of tracking, bracelets in 2010 ..

Featuring also in the film:
"Checkpoints and proof of vaccination"
"Return to normal and the New normal"

 

[gallantca]

If I had my way there wouldn’t be a vaccine passport. The supposedly mild incentive created by vaccine passports didn’t work, and the expansion of it to requiring the vaccinated to test negative for Covid in certain situations such as for travel is a major violation of rights. Once some places started requiring proof of vaccine, there had to be some mechanism for conformity to let the vaccinated show proof. But if it hadn’t started anywhere, that wouldn’t be necessary.

But I do think the vaccine clearly reduces hospitalization and death. Now strictly speaking, I can tolerate higher acceptable death rate, as apparently most Americans do, at least in comparison to the majority of folks in Quebec (or at least some of those who post on merb). So I am not that distressed when people keep posting about how the U.S. has a higher per-capita death rate than Canada. I am not a fan of lockdowns, but I have no interest in letting the unvaccinated destroy the healthcare system. So I think hospitals should be allowed to do a prioritization mechanism that puts Covid children patients first, vaccinated/boosted Covid adult patients second, vaccinated Covid adult patients third, adult patients with non-Covid medical issues fourth (unless it is a life threatening emergency), and then non vaccinated adult Covid patients last, if there is room. That would be the only vaccine passport I would use. If they are so smart and so right about not getting the vaccine, they should have no objection to that.

If this were in place, non vaccinated would get no care today. Do you see that happening i.e letting the non vaccinated out in the cold ?

And I'd love to hear Franco and Mike say they'd be ok with this

 

[Francoquart]

If I had my way there wouldn’t be a vaccine passport. The supposedly mild incentive created by vaccine passports didn’t work, and the expansion of it to requiring the vaccinated to test negative for Covid in certain situations such as for travel is a major violation of rights. Once some places started requiring proof of vaccine, there had to be some mechanism for conformity to let the vaccinated show proof. But if it hadn’t started anywhere, that wouldn’t be necessary.

But I do think the vaccine clearly reduces hospitalization and death. Now strictly speaking, I can tolerate higher acceptable death rate, as apparently most Americans do, at least in comparison to the majority of folks in Quebec (or at least some of those who post on merb). So I am not that distressed when people keep posting about how the U.S. has a higher per-capita death rate than Canada. I am not a fan of lockdowns, but I have no interest in letting the unvaccinated destroy the healthcare system. So I think hospitals should be allowed to do a prioritization mechanism that puts Covid children patients first, vaccinated/boosted Covid adult patients second, vaccinated Covid adult patients third, adult patients with non-Covid medical issues fourth (unless it is a life threatening emergency), and then non vaccinated adult Covid patients last, if there is room. That would be the only vaccine passport I would use. If they are so smart and so right about not getting the vaccine, they should have no objection to that.

If the purpose is to punish the non vaccinated, then that segregation would make sense. However, if a non vaccinated idea is to develop natural immunity, and is willing to take a risk, then his only recourse is the hospital if things get bad. The Vaccinated, should in principle be at very low risk, so Hospitalization should be a last resort for them. In terms of cost, remember that Non Vaccinated pay taxes, so we paid for your Vaccines (3 of them ) too. The government must allow such thinking and perspective, and accommodate them. Claiming that the Vaccine way is the only way for a Virus that has a low kill ratio is not acceptable. Why should a low risk person take the Vaccine if he is not really convinced of it? It is his right to try a different approach. The media has so much marketed the Vaccine approach that it looks like the most promising and the only one. The first reality was that the situation remain unchanged overall. We are going through the same measures we did before the Vaccine. The experts did exaggerate its success rate at first. Who says they are not exaggerating its success rate still? We know for a fact that most survive it, so there should be room left for those willing to take that road. By all means, people at risk should be advise and even pressured to take the Vaccine, but the others, natural immunity is able to cope with COVID. Understanding each other's perspective is the best solution to get out of this crisis. If the government is going to keep mandatory Vaccines, man radicalization is the only result from this. They are making a bad situation worst by creating other set of problems.

 

[Francoquart]

I don’t agree with your position, but you are helping me understand the Legault fellow.

If the early statistics are correct, this Omicron wave will send a lot of unvaccinated to the hospital.

Hospitals have limited resources, and it has been pointed out that the hospital resources of Quebec are more limited than elsewhere in North America.

So if you don’t limit the hospital access of the unvaccinated, you overrun the health care system if the Omicron virus symptoms are bad enough.

That can’t happen, so you punish everyone equally by limiting freedom and mobility in an attempt to slow the spread, and not overrun the health care system.

It is of course possible, and perhaps even probable, that Omicron does not produce severe enough symptoms to create havoc, but Legault isn’t willing to take that chance.

Most of the U.S. is taking that chance, but it has a little more available resources. And its vaccinated likely wouldn’t tolerate further lockdowns and restrictions.

It wouldn’t be easy to be an elected leader.

Yes, that is his logic. The situation we are in did not happen by accident. This administration has focused solely on the vaccine approach and has disregarded any other one. As such, all their plans and resources were dedicated to that one approach. Instead of increasing capacity, it was reduced. Nurses refusing vaccination were stoped from working, reducing the workforce, etc... One might say that he gambled and believed the vaccine is the miracle solution. Now, he discovered it wasn't, and because he is unable to face that reality, he went on to blame the non vaccinated ( used them as escape goats). His objective is to accomplish 2 things:
1. To remove the blame from himself, and give a reason other then his failure to correctly asses the situation
2. To redirect the frustration and anger that people are going to experience in regards to the old/ new measure toward someone else than himself (non vaxed)
It is very easy to realise that he is repeating the same measures. If things did not work the first time, why will they work the second time?
You do not have to agree with me to give me support. As long as we are working toward the same goal, we need to support each other, because we might both be right, or both be wrong. If we work in solidarity, which a leader should inspire in times of crisis, whatever the result, we will be able to face it better. This man is creating division and hatred.

 

[Francoquart]

If this were in place, non vaccinated would get no care today. Do you see that happening i.e letting the non vaccinated out in the cold ?

And I'd love to hear Franco and Mike say they'd be ok with this

Why would I be ok with that? My position is the exact opposite. I personally have no problem whatsoever with vaccines. I am for them when they are truly necessary, tested, and safe. Now, i do not believe in the effectiveness of this vaccines in the sense that EVERYONE needs it. However, vaccine aside, the real problem is the mandatory vaccination, not vaccination. I believe that nothing, and i mean like NOTHING, should be used as an excuse to touch my rights in any way. It is my rights to have access to medical care or any other care as much as yours. Being vaccinated does not grant you any privilege whatsoever. To summarize, my position is in regards to my rights, not against vaccines. But i do believe this vaccine to be inflated in terms of expectations and as a solution.

 

[Nutsinho]

 

[Nutsinho]

What is happening now is Mass Formation Psychosis

The vaccine is to force you to get the vaccine passport

The vaccine passport is to force you into the social credit system

The social credit system is to force you into obeying the government

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