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It's not minuscule at all. The statistics are horrifying. They will see anyone at an ER, but if they decide you are intoxicated when you are having a stroke because of the colour of your skin, you may very well die due to racism. This sort of thing happens so much more often than anyone wants to hear. Yes our healthcare is shit and fuck the government who are fighting to make it worse, but take a trip down pubmed lane and you will find mortality and morbidity vs race and/or gender statistics that are shocking and undeniable.
Let's not forget about Canada's genocidal past and how indigenous people get treated here. Also we had slavery in Canada too, and people pretend that wasn't a thing here.
 

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You have this strange fixation that only white people can be racist and only white people can hate and be horrendous to other races.
You really should learn a bit of history and get out in the world.
I am not surprised you don’t understand what I am talking about.
You have probably never been outside Canada or North America.
I never said that only white people can be racist. I've witnessed people of other races be racist. I just said you can't be racist to white people in North America. And yes I have been outside of Canada and North America. Many times. I know that in some countries white people get discriminated against, but learn a bit about history of colonialism and how Europeans and then North Americans fucked up a lot of countries. You underestimate me. I respect you and think you're a very intelligent and kind person, but don't underestimate me.
 
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You have this strange fixation that only white people can be racist and only white people can hate and be horrendous to other races.
You really should learn a bit of history and get out in the world.
I am not surprised you don’t understand what I am talking about.
You have probably never been outside Canada or North America.
I wonder if she knows that theres slaves in north africa still today. Some parts of asia . I wonder if she knows africans sold other africans and had them as slaves themselves Hell go down the list .
 

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I wonder if she knows that theres slaves in north africa still today. Some parts of asia . I wonder if she knows africans sold other africans and had them as slaves themselves Hell go down the list .
Yes I know of this. Don't talk about me as if I wasn't there.
I am a very sweet and lenient person, but one thing that gets me really angry is having my intelligence and knowledge insulted. Don't underestimate me.
 
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No that is exactly what you said you said you are not racist because you have a black friend and now you mentioned 4-5 other nationality friends.
You will get tired by the time you mention all of them.
Time to put down the shovel and stop digging.

I just asked my black friend if I'm racist. He said no.
I'll believe him, even if I'm racist. He's my exception lol.
I'm starting to understand why most escorts dispise merbians. Kinda like debate club with 12 to 65 year olds and even greater gap in healthy intellect and perspective.
Not talking about the Indies constantly on this board.
 
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It's not minuscule at all. The statistics are horrifying. They will see anyone at an ER, but if they decide you are intoxicated when you are having a stroke because of the colour of your skin, you may very well die due to racism. This sort of thing happens so much more often than anyone wants to hear. Yes our healthcare is shit and fuck the government who are fighting to make it worse, but take a trip down pubmed lane and you will find mortality and morbidity vs race and/or gender statistics that are shocking and undeniable.
It is very minuscule compared to the rest of the world and that is what I was comparing it to, simple mathematics lol. Canada has 38- 40 million population how many died because of racism in health care or in total because of racism.
You want to compare that to just a small little part called Gaza.
Most people should be so lucky to live here in Canada, racism here is alive for sure but nothing compared to the rest of the world.
 

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I just said you can't be racist to white people in North America.
I posted an example of it earlier in the thread. All the white guys who didn't get scholarship offers for the 30 years John Thompson coached Georgetown and recruited exclusively black players in order to promote opportunities for them, but not white guys. Post 205 FYI
 
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I posted an example of it earlier in the thread. All the white guys who didn't get scholarship offers for the 30 years John Thompson coached Georgetown and recruited exclusively black players in order promote opportunities for them, but not white guys.
This isn't racism, it's a way to give opportunities to people who normally wouldn't get them because of oppression. I'm sorry that the white dudes didn't get the scholarship. lol.
 
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This isn't racism, it's a way to give opportunities to people who normally wouldn't get them because of oppression. I'm sorry that the white dudes didn't get the scholarship. lol.
So basically they didnt earn it. A certain group of people were discriminated upon because of the color of their skin. Has nothing to do with opportunity.
 

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Leave the emotions at the door.
That's how you have a healthy debate/conversation.
Alright Carl Jung :)

I'm sorry if I got worked up over this. I don't want to pour oil on fire. I'm done with this thread because I don't have the energy for it.

In any case, personally, I am open to receiving clients of any ethnicity. :)
Same thing in my personal life, I don't care what race someone is.
 
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This isn't racism, it's a way to give opportunities to people who normally wouldn't get them because of oppression. I'm sorry that the white dudes didn't get the scholarship. lol.
The black guys Thompson recruited probably would have received scholarship offers from most other Division 1 colleges (the vast majority of them anyway). I would suggest he left a couple of NCAA championships on the table by his recruiting- might have been different if he offered a couple of white sharpshooters scholarships, because that's what his 1983 and 1985 teams that fell short could have used. The bottom line is that if he recruited normally or non-racially for typical basketball roster construction he would have had probably 25-30 white kids (conservative estimate) graduate during his tenure, with a great degree and also improve the floor spacing on some of his shooting challenged teams. I am sure he probably thought he could win with the defense his all black teams played, and they did win a lot, but he did leave a few championships on the table and left lots of white shooters without scholarships, who would have helped those teams that fell short.
 
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I never said that only white people can be racist. I've witnessed people of other races be racist. I just said you can't be racist to white people in North America. And yes I have been outside of Canada and North America. Many times. I know that in some countries white people get discriminated against, but learn a bit about history of colonialism and how Europeans and then North Americans fucked up a lot of countries. You underestimate me. I respect you and think you're a very intelligent and kind person, but don't underestimate me.
This is the first time you are specifically saying you can’t be racist to white people only in North America.
Again this is completely false.
You think some black people or Asian people or any other race living in North America don’t hate white people and want nothing to do with them simply because they are white,
Tell me what would you call that other than racism.
You ask me to not underestimate you and then you make statements like this.
Yes you are a kind likeable gentle person with many fabulous qualities and as a person I would be happy to know you but that does not mean I agree with your view points.
 

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This is the first time you are specifically saying you can’t be racist to white people only in North America.
Again this is completely false.
You think some black people or Asian people or any other race living in North America don’t hate white people and want nothing to do with them simply because they are white,
Tell me what would you call that other than racism.
You ask me to not underestimate you and then you make statements like this.
Yes you are a kind likeable gentle person with many fabulous qualities and as a person I would be happy to know you but that does not mean I agree with your view points.
I already said, it's true that people of other races can hate white people because they view us as oppressors. I agree with you on this.
Is this racism? No. The history of racism is complex and race is a social contruct that was created by ppl of european descent to feel superior to certain groups of people and to allow genocides and other types of violence to happen. How do you not understand this? The system here is made by and for white people and for men. I understand that yes, there are ppl who hate white folks because they view us as oppressors like I said. In my opinion this isn't racism. I think it could be discrimination in some contexts tho.

I can't blame for example a black woman for having negative feelings towards me because I get more privileges than she does. It's not fun being disliked by anybody, but it's something I can understand.
 
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I already said, it's true that people of other races can hate white people because they view us as oppressors. I agree with you on this.
Is this racism?
Of course it is racism why do you keep insisting that it isn’t. Who put this into your head that just because you are white you cannot be discriminated against be hated and even killed.
Why do you insist in trying to look for a different word.
Pure and simple it is racism.
What system are you talking about there is no system hatred is hatred killing someone because you hate them because of the colour of their skin and hating them because of the colour of their skin is racism regardless if they are black white or any other colour.

Making a distinction because of colour, race , or difference is racism in itself if it is perpetuating hate.
 
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