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[tiga]

By the way i can't figure out why they let Daniel Carr go and instead kept a stiff like Michael McCarron. At least Carr can skate and put the puck in the net!

That, I did not know and I do not understand that move, they always said "at the end of the day" even if McCarron is not that good he is still 6'5". I guess it is hard to give up on a big body center like that. But letting Carr go...I don't know.
Saw both players play together in Laval last winter, McCarron stood out for the wrong reasons and Carr was the hardest working kid on the Rockets that game, he had a few goals... Bergevin and Julien were in attendance, I could see both of them in a hole in the wall loge at the other end of the rink. That night Desjardins was called up. And stayed with the big club for the rest of the season. But Carr could have been called up too.

 

[tiga]

J'ai trouvé ça bien pensé...

https://25stanley.com/un-partisan-du-ch-a-recycle-son-chandail-dalex-galchenyuk/

 

[tiga]

Doc where did you see or hear that Carr is leaving, I can't find anything on that...???

 

[EagerBeaver]

Doc where did you see or hear that Carr is leaving, I can't find anything on that...???

https://www.google.com/amp/s/awinni...ns-exploring-daniel-carr-wasnt-qualified/amp/

 

[Titilleur]

J'ai trouvé ça bien pensé...

https://25stanley.com/un-partisan-du-ch-a-recycle-son-chandail-dalex-galchenyuk/

Connerie... La meilleure excuse de Bergevin pour masquer les erreurs de son staff... L'attitude ça se développe. Tu ne l'as pas à la naissance. Quand Galchenyuk a été repêché, c'était pour combler un trou au centre. Au lieu de l'encadrer, on l'a laissé à lui-même. En lui montrant qu'il n'était pas assez bon tout de suite pour jouer au centre, on l'a complètement mélangé en le faisant jouer à l'aile.

Comme souvent c'est le cas, les jeunes ont besoin de modèles pour s'épanouir et se développer... Galchenyuk a été scrappé dès le départ. On l'a tout fucké...

Galchenyuk est un échec pour Bergevin et la seule façon pour le DG de paraître en contrôle, c'est de mettre ses propres torts sur les joueurs. Comme ça, si la même erreurs se reproduit avec un autre joueur, ça sera la faute du joueur.

Que dit-on de McCarron? Que disait-t-on de Subban?

Toujours l'attitude...

Bergevin devrait être crissé dehors au plus sacrant!

 

[Doc Holliday]

,,et ca commence fort...PLEKY serait de retour l'an prochain pour un contrat d'une année.

Last season when habs fans i know made fun of the Leafs picking up Plekanec for their playoff run i warned them: "DON'T LAUGH, GUYS. DON'T BE TOO SURPRISED IF PLEKANEC ISN'T BACK WITH THE HABS NEXT SEASON."

They all pretty much told me "no way, it won't happen. Good riddance. The habs won't re-sign that old man." :lol:

 

[Doc Holliday]

The problem with McCarron isn't his attitude. It's the fact he can't skate, can't shoot and can't score. Period.

The habs are likely hanging on to him just to save face since he was a former first-round pick of theirs.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Titilleur,

If Galchenyuk goes out to Arizona, plays center and does so well, Bergevin’s “blame the player” position will lose credibility. Will be interested to compare the stats of Domi vs. Galchenyuk next year. It’s also generally a bad idea to sabotage the value of your own players (as with the two you mentioned) because then they have no trade value. This is discussed at length by Phil Esposito in his book, in the part discussing his tenure as GM of the Rangers. Esposito complained that Michel Bergeron’s repeated bending of various players for various reasons poisoned their trade value because everyone around the NHL would interpret it as a red flag on the player. Esposito asked Bergeron not to do this and when he refused to obey and blamed Esposito in there media for not acquiring the right players (which according to Esposito was assorted washed up French Canadian players that Bergeron favored over similarly talented Anglos and Europeans), Bergeron was fired.

It’s always better for the GM to soup up players rather than tear them down.

 

[Titilleur]

The problem with McCarron isn't his attitude. It's the fact he can't skate, can't shoot and can't score. Period.

The habs are likely hanging on to him just to save face since he was a former first-round pick of theirs.

McCarron was not drafted for his playmaking abilities... Too bad the Habs wasted that pick on someone they did not know how to build...

 

[Doc Holliday]

Tomas Plekanec signs with the Habs!!!!!!

Plecky signs a one-year contract worth $2.25 million. If he covers his bonuses he'll be getting just under $4 million.

Right now it looks like he could be the team's #1 centre. Believe it, or not!

 

[Doc Holliday]

McCarron was not drafted for his playmaking abilities... Too bad the Habs wasted that pick on someone they did not know how to build...

I wouldn't say that he was a wasted pick. To be fair he was the 25th overall pick. Most late first-rounders don't end up very long in the NHL, if at all. If you look at the players drafted after him the only one who's name i recognize is Shea Theodore, who was drafted 26th by Anaheim. Theodore only found regular NHL employment due to the recent expansion when he was left unprotected by the Ducks and picked up by Vegas. He played very well and he'd be one of Montreal's top defencemen if he were in Mtl.

But to say Mtl erred in selecting McCarron over Theodore or any other player would be very wrong. The Leafs selected Freddie Gauthier as the 21st overall pick that year. Gauthier in my opinion is only slightly better than McCarron and they're two similar players with Gauthier having a bit more skill. But i doubt Gauthier will ever end up as a regular in the NHL since he's too slow-footed. That year (2013) if you weren't selecting in the top 10 you risked not ending up with much. For example, Kirby Rychel was selected 19th overall by Columbus. Since then he's been a career minor leaguer and he's currently with his third organization, which just happens to be the habs and he's likely to spend the season in Laval again.

So to say that drafting Michael McCarron was a bust would be totally wrong. It's just that it wasn't a great draft crop and the habs were picking late in the first-round. The habs didn't do any worse than any other team.

 

[gaby]

Tomas Plekanec signs with the Habs!!!!!!

Plecky signs a one-year contract worth $2.25 million. If he covers his bonuses he'll be getting just under $4 million.

Right now it looks like he could be the team's #1 centre. Believe it, or not!

..et cela démontre bien Doc là ou nous en sommes et la journée d'aujourd'hui n'aura rien changé...mais le Rocket devrait être bien pourvu...lol..

 

[gaby]

Max aurait refusé un contrat de 36 millions sur 6 ans avec les Kings et a congédié Brisson.....Couture vient de signer avec les Sharks 64 millions pour 8 ans ..avec une moins bonne production.....on peut comprendre Max....qui sera fort probablement de retour faute de preneurs...mais dans quelle disposition!!!!

 

[EagerBeaver]

Tomas Plekanec signs with the Habs!!!!!!

Plecky signs a one-year contract worth $2.25 million. If he covers his bonuses he'll be getting just under $4 million.

Right now it looks like he could be the team's #1 centre. Believe it, or not!

#1 center @ $2.5 million for a year is a great bargain! It's a cost efficient signing.

 

[jalimon]

#1 center @ $2.5 million for a year is a great bargain! It's a cost efficient signing.

no. its 2.5 million for a 3rd line center who is asked to play on #1 line up to compensate the lack of other qualified center.

 

[tiga]

Bravo a Toronto qui a réussi à attraper le gros poisson qu'est JT.

Bergevin n'a toujours pas frappé de circuit cette entre-saison...

J'imagine qu'on aura de bons picks à recruter en 2019...

 

[tiga]

#1 center @ $2.5 million for a year is a great bargain! It's a cost efficient signing.

No not a first line center... that is a joke... from our number one Habs fan DOC,
Pleky is a guy who's coming back home to finish his career, where he started it.

 

[tiga]

Max aurait refusé un contrat de 36 millions sur 6 ans avec les Kings et a congédié Brisson.....Couture vient de signer avec les Sharks 64 millions pour 8 ans ..avec une moins bonne production.....on peut comprendre Max....qui sera fort probablement de retour faute de preneurs...mais dans quelle disposition!!!!

C'est une année de contrat pour Max, il va produire pour lui même....

Malheureusement probablement par lui même...

 

[tiga]

Titilleur

Galchenyuk n'aurait jamais dû jouer à Montréal à dix-huit ans.

Lentement mais surement Bergevin se rapproche de la porte de sortie...

 

[tiga]

Zach Fucale et Daniel Carr s'en vont à Vegas avec les Knights...