What I mean is there are some girls in every agency who refuse to see certain ethnicity but not the majority of themVog actually does have a few woman that dont see black !! The booker will say that they are not chocolate fridendly !!
What I mean is there are some girls in every agency who refuse to see certain ethnicity but not the majority of themVog actually does have a few woman that dont see black !! The booker will say that they are not chocolate fridendly !!
In Paris they always explicitly ask for ethnicity, and even give you an address across the street instead of the real one, so they can see you from their window before the appointment.This is mainly a problem in Canada, and specifically Montreal. When you hobby abroad, the only colour they see is green lol $$$
I've made this point in a roundabout way the gazillion times this topic has come up. Why is it only black men carrying the burden for other black men's bad behavior when I can bet my life some segment of all ethnicities also behave badly? This is all to say the "I don't see ALL black men because I had (a) bad experience(s) with..." rationale to be the shakiest one if you think about it enough. I'm sure the real reasons are myriad, including this rationale that generalizes every black guy.Even if an escort has had bad experience with White customers she cannot afford to blacklist White customers she will loose 90% of her revenue.
It's a matter of proportion. Low proportion of whites poses difficulties, much much higher proportion of black. SP have no choice to adapt and minimize risks. The ideal client for SP is mild mannered middle age married white men: low chance of STIs, of no payment, of agressiveness during sex, etc.I've made this point in a roundabout way the gazillion times this topic has come up. Why is it only black men carrying the burden for other black men's bad behavior when I can bet my life some segment of all ethnicities also behave badly? This is all to say the "I don't see ALL black men because I had (a) bad experience(s) with..." rationale to be the shakiest one if you think about it enough. I'm sure the real reasons are myriad, including this rationale that generalizes every black guy.
But for the love of Beelzebub, ignore anyone who won't see you because of your race. The main entry fees in this business are money, good hygiene and behavior. If you possess all three and happen to be black, you still have options with many SPs where your race doesn't matter to them.
Agency can screen or blacklist clients much better than a single SP, Agency also offer better protection to the SPs during meetings. "No black gent" is cheap way of screening for independent escorts who probably don't have any other protection than themselve.If that were true throughout the entire John spectrum, you would see more racial discrimination among higher priced independents and reputable agencies.
Security is different at a pawn shop in the Hood versus a Whole Market in suburbia. Blacks are treated the same at Whole Foods as Whites.
For some reason the Original Poster asked about the sex work equivalent of the pawn shop in the Hood.
What happens there is likely rational behavior (both at the true pawn shop in the Hood and on LeoList and 123), but it doesn’t have much correlation elsewhere, in my opinion.
This of course goes beyond sex work. The cops have a point when they say it is just simple math that a large portion of arrests, and stops, in the hood are of black men. The Left is incorrect when it argues that this statistic is Targeting. But we all have an obligation to not bring Hood Concepts, including LL and 123, and apply it elsewhere. Just like you are correct to assume the black guy entering Whole Foods is there to buy fancy vegetables.
Oh god I have news for you about white men... There are even white men on this very board with a reputation for their lack of hygiene and manners. Every sp has at least 10 stories of a white client being trash one way or another...Every sp probably has a story of a black guy trying to aggressively negotiate for lower payment, while smelling awful. Same is true to a lesser extent for arabs.
Agency can screen or blacklist clients much better than a single SP, Agency also offer better protection to the SPs during meetings. "No black gent" is cheap way of screening for independent escorts who probably don't have any other protection than themselve.
But it sure sounds like it.I’m not saying all of this to diss agencies…
Agency also act as a deterrent, much less likely to cause trouble knowing there is a driver waiting for the girl's call. A lone girl is more vulnerable, easier to take advantage of. That doesn't mean an agency protection will work for all the violent clients.Oh god I have news for you about white men... There are even white men on this very board with a reputation for their lack of hygiene and manners. Every sp has at least 10 stories of a white client being trash one way or another...
Agencies have access to the exact same blacklists that we use though... And from what I've heard they actually tend to do much less screening because they want money above all else. I have no problem believing the girls who told me this considering one of the agencies on this board basically told me to get fucked (pun unintended) when I reached out for a reference. Independants screen for their own safety, agency bookers have a much higher volume of appointments to set up and their own safety isn't on the line so they have no incentive to screen. They also realistically don't offer much protection - a violent client isn't going to casually let a girl call the booker/driver etc to come help her if anything happens. She'll have to defend herself and tell the agency what happened afterwards. I'm not saying all of this to diss agencies, I'm just speaking from what I've heard from former and current agency girls
You'll also be blacklisted for all the girls of the agency, not just one.
When I said independent I didn't just mean high end independent that we see on this forum, I meant the girls posting on LL who don't have the reputation or an established clientele that allow them to screen clients and ask for references: that would be too bad for their business.
It is usually due to bad previous experiences: more likely to be aggressive during sex, have issue with payments (try to negotiate), lack manners, lack hygiene etc. Every sp probably has a story of a black guy trying to aggressively negotiate for lower payment, while smelling awful. Same is true to a lesser extent for arabs. The reason SP give to not see these races sometime is just an excuse so they don't seem racist. It is the same more or less everywhere, not just MTL.
Everyone forgets about the most important thing, sex workers can blacklist Black clients because the majority of clients are White. Even if an escort has had bad experience with White customers she cannot afford to blacklist White customers she will loose 90% of her revenue. Everyone made valid points, we cannot pinpoint as to a singular reason, each sw has her own position on that.
You are 100% correct in this assessment. The worst ones being Asian and East Asian men who literally blacklist all Black women.The irony in all of this is that there are way more men of all nationalities that will refuse to see a black girl than there are sp’s who will refuse to see black or east asian men.
On the client side, it is not a matter of security but of taste. Personally, I just dont find them attractive at all, but I have tried in the past. I rarely see asian escort for the same reason.You are 100% correct in this assessment. The worst ones being Asian and East Asian men who literally blacklist all Black women.
The irony in all of this is that there are way more men of all nationalities that will refuse to see a black girl than there are sp’s who will refuse to see black or east asian men.
This is also 100% true. You can still be racist and have a fetish of WOC.Not to say that many of the white men who seek WOC are not racist as well but simply express it by fetishizing instead rather than blacklisting.
I know, it was more a response to what Doc Holliday posted. I am the opposite of you, my preference is for WOC specifically Black girls. I am not too attracted to White or Asian girls.On the client side, it is not a matter of security but of taste. Personally, I just dont find them attractive at all, but I have tried in the past. I rarely see asian escort for the same reason.
So, racist if you do… and racist if you don’t! Sounds like woke logicNot to say that many of the white men who seek WOC are not racist as well but simply express it by fetishizing instead rather than blacklisting.
So, racist if you do… and racist if you don’t! Sounds like woke logic