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Not biting Merlot....

Too many important things to get ready for...

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I cant believe you did that MISTER .T :(

Hahahaha!

So lets take a look at this seasons allstar game likely representatives....

Jays: Donaldson, Colabello, Martin?

Yanks: Pineda, Tanaka, Betances, Miller (if back soon), Texeira, Arod...

The hosers? One only because they have to have ONE, pedroia
 

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So lets take a look at this seasons allstar game likely representatives....

Jays: Donaldson, Colabello, Martin?

Yanks: Pineda, Tanaka, Betances, Miller (if back soon), Texeira, Arod...

The hosers? One only because they have to have ONE, pedroia

My picks are:

Yankees: Betances, Miller.
Jays: Donaldson. Collabelo deserves consideration, but won't get chosen.
Red Sox: Pedroia or Bogaerts. Only because each team has to be represented. It could be Bogaerts since the all-star team will be loaded at the second base position.
 

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:rolleyes:



So this is how you stay out of the personal back-biting, some pointed goading instigation. Good one Smuler. ;)



Cheaters = BAD. Pinstripes = Whitewash. That's DD41.

=Even the Yankees current manager can't bring himself to give A-Rod the credit a clean player the baseball world would be falling over itself to shower him with if it wasn't for the TAINT. When Girardi was asked about Rodriguez reaching the 3000 hits mark he said: "I don't know," Girardi said. "People want to say: Is it a milestone? I don't know. But 3,000 hits is a lot of hits." Very faint praise IF it is at all. For the Yankees dealing with Rodriguez is like going to the best restaurant in the city and discovering the gourmet chef never washes his hands after going to the bathroom. YIKES!

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2015/06/joe_girardi_on_alex_rodriguezs_march_to_3000_hits.html

What it's come down to is milestones for Rodriguez are a sham. No one will ever know if he would have gotten there honestly no matter what natural potential he had. For him every measure starts with *.

What a shame,

Merlot

No problem, Merlot. Arod has a huge * next to every stat he has achieved. I only stated that he is officially 1 hit away from 3000. I gave no judgment opinions to that statement. The Yankees don't dispute he tainted his career and his time with them. So let's look at the New England Patriot organization and Tom Brady. Can you say the same about Brady, Merlot or are you going to give us another dissertation about HOT AIR and footballs?
 

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I cant believe you did that MISTER .T :(

Hahahaha!

So lets take a look at this seasons allstar game likely representatives....

Jays: Donaldson, Colabello, Martin?

Yanks: Pineda, Tanaka, Betances, Miller (if back soon), Texeira, Arod...

The hosers? One only because they have to have ONE, pedroia

Holt is not doing to bad considering which team he plays on.
 

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Brock Holt has indeed done very well this season hitting .319 currently with a .469 SLG and .876 OPS on a team that has given very little support. He would be a legit representative to the All-Star game. Pedroia would also be a very well deserved choice.

Red Sox Notes: Brock Holt Far Outplaying ‘Utility Man’ Label For Boston

http://nesn.com/2015/06/red-sox-notes-brock-holt-far-outplaying-utility-man-label-for-boston/

Over these past few weeks, Brock Holt has been as valuable for the Boston Red Sox as he is versatile.

He’s been the epitome of a utility man — catcher and pitcher are the only positions he’s yet to play this season — but his production at the plate has far surpassed what’s usually expected from a player in that role.

Following a two-hit, three-run effort in Thursday’s 5-2 win over the Atlanta Braves, Holt’s stats for the month of June read as such: a .373/.467/.549 slash line, seven extra-base hits, four RBIs and seven runs scored. Oh, and the first Red Sox cycle in 19 years thrown in for good measure.

Holt’s 1.016 OPS this month ranks 12th among all major leaguers with 50 or more at-bats (he trails a who’s who of All-Star sluggers: Stanton, Harper, Pujols, Goldschmidt, Cabrera, Trout, etc.), and he’s become indispensable to the point that manager John Farrell simply can’t afford to leave him on the bench.

Of the Red Sox’s 17 games since June 1, Holt has started 15 and hit safely in 13.

“He’s almost become an invaluable guy to us,” Farrell told reporters after Thursday’s game, via The Providence Journal.

Let’s take a spin through some additional notes from Boston’s win at Turner Field, which allowed the Red Sox to earn a split in the four-game home-and-home:


Cheers,

Merlot
 

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My picks are:

Yankees: Betances, Miller.
Jays: Donaldson. Collabelo deserves consideration, but won't get chosen.
Red Sox: Pedroia or Bogaerts. Only because each team has to be represented. It could be Bogaerts since the all-star team will be loaded at the second base position.

1st Base Miguel Cabrera - Only one clear cut choice really. He is hitting .345. Fielder is having a whale of a year.
2nd Base - my pick Kipnis from Cleveland. Pedroia is a good choice too. I also throguh a couple of votes towards Dozier of Minnesota. No way was I going to vote for Ian Kinsler. His WAR is high but he has 1HR and he hits into triple plays!!!! A real POS.
SS - Iggy. Not Iggy the party thrower but Jose Iglesias the human highlight film on D. He is also hitting .328
3B - Donaldson from Toronto - 17 Hrs
C - I split my votes between Martin of Toronto and Vogt of Oakland. I would support Perez but I refuse to vote for a ballet stuffing Royal.
OF - Cespedes - Best combo of average hitter, power hitter, base runner, and a great arm to make assists.
Of - JD Martinez - Best player for the money out there. 12 HRs already
OF - Jones, rReddick, Trout all got votes from H101
DH - Nelson Cruz
 

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Washington Nationals Ace Max Scherzer missed a perfect game against the Pittsburgh Pirates by 1 hit batter, but preserved his no hitter after pitching a 1 hitter against the Milwaukee Brewers his last outing. Scherzer has allowed 1 hit in his last 18 innings, struck out 26 in his last 18 innings. He has a 11 inning no hit streak going. Scherzer is 8-5, 1.76 ERA. His next appearance is next Friday against the Philadelphia Phillies in Philadelphia.
 

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The NYY kept pace with the hot Tampa Rays as the Yanks beat the Detroit Tigers 14-3. Beltran hit 2 home runs, Gregorius 1 HR, Arod 1 HR and 5 RBI's, Young 1 HR, Gardner Single, Double and Triple. Eovaldi pitched 6 innings 2 ER's. Girardi yanked Eovaldi in the 7th inning with 2 men on and no outs. It was probably too quick of a yank because the Yanks were up 13-0 and Eovaldi had 92 pitches. Maybe Girardi didn't want Eovaldi to struggle out of the game. Reliever Brian Mitchell didn't do so well giving up the 2 LOB and another run.
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Looking at our friends in the cellar (those Rogue Hosers are 10 games out), the Red Sox had a 4-1 lead in the 5th against the AL Central first place KC Royals, but who was on the mound? Yes, Ricky "give me 20 mil" Porcello (4-8, 5.61 ERA) <---------- See that Merlot?. The Royals scored 5 in the 5th and the Red Sox went down 7-4.
 

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Looking at our friends in the cellar (those Rogue Hosers are 10 games out), the Red Sox had a 4-1 lead in the 5th against the AL Central first place KC Royals, but who was on the mound? Yes, Ricky "give me 20 mil" Porcello (4-8, 5.61 ERA) <---------- See that Merlot?. The Royals scored 5 in the 5th and the Red Sox went down 7-4.

I just saw highlights of that game. David Ortiz once again got kicked out of the game after another of his usual meltdowns when things aren't going his way. He kept on arguing with the homeplate umpire in his last at-bat and then hit a single. On his way to first base, he threw his bat far into the infield, past the pitcher. Then the umpire had enough of his childish antics and kicked him out. Then Ortiz got in the umpire's face and threw out the umpire!! You had to see it to believe it! :lol:

No doubt another case of roids rage from the man-child better known as "Pappi". Little Pappi, that is. :rolleyes:

p.s. And yes, Porky Porcello sucks as much as the rest of the pitching staff. What an awful acquisition by Cherington!
 

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1st Base Miguel Cabrera - Only one clear cut choice really. He is hitting .345. Fielder is having a whale of a year.
2nd Base - my pick Kipnis from Cleveland. Pedroia is a good choice too. I also throguh a couple of votes towards Dozier of Minnesota. No way was I going to vote for Ian Kinsler. His WAR is high but he has 1HR and he hits into triple plays!!!! A real POS.
SS - Iggy. Not Iggy the party thrower but Jose Iglesias the human highlight film on D. He is also hitting .328
3B - Donaldson from Toronto - 17 Hrs
C - I split my votes between Martin of Toronto and Vogt of Oakland. I would support Perez but I refuse to vote for a ballet stuffing Royal.
OF - Cespedes - Best combo of average hitter, power hitter, base runner, and a great arm to make assists.
Of - JD Martinez - Best player for the money out there. 12 HRs already
OF - Jones, rReddick, Trout all got votes from H101
DH - Nelson Cruz

OK guys...Who should represent the American League? Stop your childish hating and tell me who?

Oh and how about JD Martinez today? 3 HRs and two off the unhittable (mostly unhittable) Tanaka. Can you see why I voted for this guy Ynakee fans?

Who are the pitchers? Betances should start as far as I am concerned and pitch as long as he can. what about the Royals 8th and 9th inning guys. Sonny Grey should pitch. Who else? No one from the Tigers....maybe David Price.

Should of kept Sherzer.
 

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OK guys...Who should represent the American League? Stop your childish hating and tell me who?

Oh and how about JD Martinez today? 3 HRs and two off the unhittable (mostly unhittable) Tanaka. Can you see why I voted for this guy Ynakee fans?

Who are the pitchers? Betances should start as far as I am concerned and pitch as long as he can. what about the Royals 8th and 9th inning guys. Sonny Grey should pitch. Who else? No one from the Tigers....maybe David Price.

Should of kept Sherzer.

What's with the Tigers this year? They are only 1 game over .500. They are so hot and cold. They have the best lineup in the Majors. So far this year, the Royals have scored 8 runs more than the Tigers. The Yankees have scored 41 more runs than the Tigers.

They did let Scherzer go. He was their best pitcher. Verlander isn't pitching well. Sanchez had an excellent game today, but has had bad luck getting hitting to get wins this season so far. Simon is a mix bag, as was evidenced yesterday.
 

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Ok. joelcairo. Point taken, but Arod surely did not start the PED era. That doesn't excuse Arod, but Arod was competing in this era. Remember Barry Bonds when he first came up with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1990? He was a skinny kid. Bonds was talented like his father, but there was no way that Barry Bonds was more than a 25 to 30 HR a year hitter, who hit for around .300 was plausible. Then after Bonds bulked up with the steroids, we saw Mark McGuire hit 70 HRs and Sammy Sosa hit 66 HRs in 1998, and Bonds then hit 73 ridiculous HRs in 2001. Bonds had 37 HR in 1998. Bonds was 39 in 2003 when he hit 45 HR and again in 2004 he hit 2004. He was definitely juicing as you seen his pictures.

So here you have Arod. A known steroid user. He missed a year for lying and deceiving about his steroid use on top of his steroid use. Yes, Arod should have an asterisks next to his records. So should Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, Manny Raimeriz, etc. Hank Aaron should still be the HR king. But the big problem for baseball is back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, no one was protesting about these guys. If people ignore Arod's records, all of the others need to be ignored also.
 

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What's with the Tigers this year? They are only 1 game over .500. They are so hot and cold. They have the best lineup in the Majors. So far this year, the Royals have scored 8 runs more than the Tigers. The Yankees have scored 41 more runs than the Tigers.

They did let Scherzer go. He was their best pitcher. Verlander isn't pitching well. Sanchez had an excellent game today, but has had bad luck getting hitting to get wins this season so far. Simon is a mix bag, as was evidenced yesterday.

Geeze...the Yankees play in the stadium were they play the Little League World Series. OMG - Every Pop up is a potential HR waiting to happen.

IDK about the Tigers. Maybe things will change with Victor Martinez back and healthy. VMart was their best od=ffensive player last year and this year , due to an injury, he has been awful. They finally had to sit him down. Also, Kinzler was very good last year and this year he has been awful. He hit 17 Hrs and this year nearly halfway through he has 1 HR. Count em - 1. And he has hit into sevrel double plays and a triple play! Our 3B - Nick Castallanos - was a hot prospect that I think is not going to make it. He is at 3B due to his bat. His glove is terrible and this year his bat has been even worse.

Starting Pitching - the Tigers were hut byt the JV deal. Smarting from that they did not want to resign Scherzer. It is looking like they signed the wrong pitcher to a long term contract. Sanchez - my favorite of the Tigers starters over the year. He has been awful the first part of this year. He has given up more HR's in April/May than he gave up all last year - I heard this.
Verlander - just had 2 starts.
Green - Sent down to AAA after a roat=ring start he has fallin on hard times.
Simon and Price have been good.

Fister deal. The Fister trade with the Nats a few years back has proven to be thw worst deal in the history of sports. Actually maybe the Roman's traded a gladiator or the Greeks traded a marathon runner under worse circumstance but I doubt it. Fister has been in the top 3-4 ERA for startingpitching in the NL and we traded him for three guys that are fucking terrible. A handful of magic beans. One guy is out of basball another Robbie Ray who sucked was traded for Green who was sent to AAA and Ian Krol who they called up recently and was bombarded by every team he faced. The Fister deal was made so the Tigers could make LHP Drew Smyly - our best releiver - a starter. We did this without filling the holke in am already weak pen. Weneeded a better starter so we traded Smyly and we got Price. An we lost about 10 MM in payroll. Stupid fucking trade and may Dumb-dumb burn in hell for making it. Fuck him.

Out Pen? Sucks. We do not have a strike out pitcher in the pen. They suck. The worst in baseball or just about every year.
 

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A Rod - He should get votes for DH for the AL All Stars. He wont becayuse he is a hated liar. However, he is not so different from all the others. I am not ging to waste anytime hating ARod. He is not very different. The question one should ask is why the fuck did he do it? He didn't need to. :confused:
 

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... but Arod surely did not start the PED era.

Completely irrelevant. A man makes his choice and deals with the consequences, he doesn't point at others like a whiny 4 year old and say "he did it first". It's the worst excuse possible.

I remember Red Sox player Mike Greenwell, who did well for a while and had some good power talking about how he struggled with the idea of taking steroids, lured by all the potential benefits and considering all the justifications/excuses for going ahead with it. He chose not to though he didn't have the level of skill A-Rod started with. It must have been excruciating to say no. His wife also described how tough it was for him. But he did it. Why couldn't Alex with all the skills he already had. NO EXCUSE!

If people ignore Arod's records, all of the others need to be ignored also.

All his records start with the foundation of cheating, and people are ignoring everyone like him. Rodriguez and his kind have eternally polluted everything about them by choice.

Hey how about that Tanaka the returning savoir. Did he hurt himself or just stink today?

As for the Red Sox beating Kansas City the team that could place enough players (8) to take over the All-Star game is a very nice achievement in a terrible season. Still, the Red Sox have had the Royals number for the last two seasons going 7-2 against them last year. It's probably some peculiarity about match-ups but some pairings just take on a life of their own. Nevertheless, E Rodriguez and Miley were both tough against a very good team. That's commendable any time.

I thought during the off-season the Sox should avoid going for so-called star players and let their young guys mature even if it takes another couple of years. Players like Holt, Bogaerts, Betts, Swihart along with the farm system with so much talent coming should have been shown more patience and faith instead of wasting hundreds of millions.

The question one should ask is why the fuck did he do it? He didn't need to. :confused:

It's not about hate. Take away all the hate and he still cheated at a time when there wasn't any hate before he joined New York. Anyone could say he did it because of the likelihood many were doing it and he was scared of competition. Still in the end everyone has to make his own choice. No excuse can save any player from that simple fact. Plus despite whatever anyone else did I see a guy who was to greedy and too disconnected from right and wrong to care if it was all a cheat. He could have had a great career honestly but he was too self-obsessed with riches and glory for that. Everything about his arrogance, lying, and attitude shows honesty was something he wasn't interested in.

Cheers,

Merlot
 

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Boyzzzz,

This is why you can't have an honest debate with Merlot. Compare what he quotes with what I wrote. There is a word for this practice, but I won't say it.

There is no problem with abbreviating someone's quote, but when you take what someone says grossly out of context, then there is a problem. Merlot is a master at this.

Cheers,

Not Merlot

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... but Arod surely did not start the PED era.


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If people ignore Arod's records, all of the others need to be ignored also.

Ok. joelcairo. Point taken, but Arod surely did not start the PED era. That doesn't excuse Arod, but Arod was competing in this era. Remember Barry Bonds when he first came up with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1990? He was a skinny kid. Bonds was talented like his father, but there was no way that Barry Bonds was more than a 25 to 30 HR a year hitter, who hit for around .300 was plausible. Then after Bonds bulked up with the steroids, we saw Mark McGuire hit 70 HRs and Sammy Sosa hit 66 HRs in 1998, and Bonds then hit 73 ridiculous HRs in 2001. Bonds had 37 HR in 1998. Bonds was 39 in 2003 when he hit 45 HR and again in 2004 he hit 2004. He was definitely juicing as you seen his pictures.

So here you have Arod. A known steroid user. He missed a year for lying and deceiving about his steroid use on top of his steroid use. Yes, Arod should have an asterisks next to his records. So should Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa, Manny Raimeriz, etc. Hank Aaron should still be the HR king. But the big problem for baseball is back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, no one was protesting about these guys. If people ignore Arod's records, all of the others need to be ignored also.
 

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And it is impossible to have a discussion about anything but the fucking Red Sox and Yankees. You all suck! Goodbye, I am done with this non-baseball thread.
 
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