The importance of kissing...

[cloudsurf]

Hey Amanda I just had a chance to read your post. Thank you for clarifying your take on kissing....but now I`m really confused.
I just re-read the first couple of pages of your long and positive review thread.
Three guys mention DFK and 2 more talk about kissing you just on the first page of 12.. So there is obviously a lot of confusion around the definition of DFK
BTW when I reviewed you I only talked about your great sense of humour. Never mentioned kissing.
I only know one thing that once I saw your sensual selfie all I wanted to do is kiss those swollen sexy lips. And if we wouldn`t have kissed on our first encounter then there was no way that I would have had made a repeat appointment with you.
I agree though that it wasn`t DFK as you define it. I also should have used the phrase sensual light kissing as opposed to passionate kissing. Passionate kissing is what I had with Alyssa Minx this afternoon.

 

[cloudsurf]

also to add on the DFK matter . Most people in their 20s dont do Dfk at all . Its like a trend or whatever . Most people that are over 40 do DFK as a common practice . Lots of sps will pretend to like it (i know a few) but the matter of the fact is this generstion is not very much into DFK. Its not because of money or whatever . Its a like and dislike and you have to accept that we do have boundaries and theres a limit to how much we are willing to do for money . I personnally dont like faking anything .

I know it changed a lot from my days as a teenager when first base was a kiss and 3rd base was a BJ. As opposed to to-days teens where its just the opposite. First base is a BJ and a kiss is 3rd base.
Blame it on the easy accessibility to porn ….very little if any kissing in porn.....and that must have a major influence on teens and their sexual behavior.
Yet there is plenty of kissing going among 20 somethings on reality T.V. shows.

 

[Amandaxo]

I never said that i don’t kiss puahahaha i do ! I just dont shove my tongue down people’s throat nor do i like to have it done xD. Those people probably throw the word DFK just like the word YMMV is being thrown arround , and that is exactly the point i made . Theres always two types of over exaggerated reviews :
Those who describe a little too much and/or add some stuff to make it look like they are special and get special treatments (LOL) like getting a service the sp doesnt even provide or exaggerating the service that was given
Those who at the end of the review you know more about them than the girl . Those who go like « im a clean shaved guy, young , i made her cum twice » Most of the time those guys write a review mainly to brag
So at the end of the day you have to spot those distinction to be able to really determine how the girl’s service actually is. Or what she does provide . You can ask the agency to ask the girl if she does it if its really a requirement . Always double check if its something that REALLY must be happening for you to enjoy the session and gentlemen, dont take it personally if the girl doesnt like to do it. You can always choose your SP and that is the beauty of hobbying


cloudsurf i think you got my text all wrong . It has nothing to do with porn or whatever . Actually the kissing in porn involve lots of tonsil licking action if you ask me . What i said isnt that we dont kiss . We do kiss . Its just when we do its more sensual lfk. Not a tonsil inspection . Like if you kiss with your tongue out first ; you are doing it wrong .

 

[GaryH]

Those who at the end of the review you know more about them than the girl . Those who go like « im a clean shaved guy, young , i made her cum twice » Most of the time those guys write a review mainly to brag .

I remember a SP on this board once referred to these guys using a French expression - le héros de sa propre histoire
(My French is bad but it was something like that.)

 

[Foodie]

would be nice to get his take on things, he did start the thread? I looooove what Amanda said......but I also love what Alyssa and Julia said lover. 3 different perspectives, 3 different mentalities.

I think that if some of you guys kiss half as passionately as you debate kissing, I would give you my lips without confession....but not my tongue!

I think that I would surrender my lips and my tongue (but not my soul) to Julia and Alyssa who genuinely care about their work and kindly shared their view.

I sincerely appreciated Amanda’s view on kissing and am somehow convinced that if we met, «kissing on the mouth » would naturally intervene, possibly without knowledge of the initiator, because it just happened. There is something unique about the moment when your lips gently touch and for an instant, you breathe the same air. When you slowly move back and open your eyes, and experience a very intimate eye to eye contact that you cannot experience otherwise. For sensual kissing like this, as Amanda rightly states, you do not need to use your tongue but have to be involved and appreciate the moment.

This week, based on Jalimon’s assertion that if you do not initiate kissing a majority of girls would not kiss, I tried to initiate a single-blind study of not initiating kissing on the mouth. As I was slowly aiming for her delicious neck where I had the intention of gently pressing my lips, she surprised me with a rapid head turn and her lips just happened to land on my lips, later giving me the unique opportunity to shortly gaze into her magnificent blue eyes as she looked into mine.

Your interventions have generated many other thoughts that I will likely share later.

Foodie.

 

[jalimon]

You know when I first started seeing agency back in 2015 I had so many who intentionally made sure we would not go full dfk that it made me think...

I ended up telling the girl before the session that dfk is not to be expected. Did not care but would not refuse it either Bingo I started to have great session since then. Only getting DFK 20% of the time.

Now either I am alone in this situation and everybody else is getting full dfk from every girl.. Like I said must be too ugly, dont know how to kiss and/or have bad breath... (I saw so many girl who would have told me the truth if that was the case...).

Or either everyone's lying on dfk just like they do when they write they got the girl multiple orgasm

ymmv you say haha Probably why all along I say, and repeat, this is not a job...

Cheers,

 

[The Nature Boy]

I think that if some of you guys kiss half as passionately as you debate kissing, I would give you my lips without confession....but not my tongue!

Your interventions have generated many other thoughts that I will likely share later.

Foodie.

Wow, I am a 100 % Hetero but after reading your essays on food and sex I would surely be compelled to initiate with you sir. I look forward to your future commentary

thank you

 

[The Nature Boy]

Jai,

im with you dude, I too wondered what everybody was talking about. But a few SP’s say a lot of things to me like Amanda said, some guys don’t know what DFK is, others lie, lol.

i just think by making your announcement @ beginning about Kissing it’s raising more attention to it and if any good shit was to evolve by goin with the flow you kinda killed it with that speech. It might be better to just ask “is there anything your not cool with”?

Anywhoo o works for me

 

[hungry101]

Now either I am alone in this situation and everybody else is getting full dfk from every girl.. Like I said must be too ugly, dont know how to kiss and/or have bad breath... (I saw so many girl who would have told me the truth if that was the case...).

Or either everyone's lying on dfk just like they do when they write they got the girl multiple orgasm

,

Have you tried bleaching your teeth? Or are we back to the definition of DFK vs LFK? YMM always vary. The only time you know for sure that you made a girl cum is if she is a shemale...maybe when they shudder which I've had happen. I would say that the girl has initiated kissing with me most of the time. Why? Maybe because I pour her a glass of wine and break the ice with conversation and jokes that sometime only I get and I probably talk too much. This is a way to shut me up.

Boy we beat this one to death.

 

[Julia Sky]

I think by making your announcement @ beginning about Kissing it’s raising more attention to it and if any good shit was to evolve by goin with the flow you kinda killed it with that speech. It might be better to just ask “is there anything your not cool with”?

Anywhoo o works for me

My thoughts too. We are escorts, not rapists. If someone comes in and gives me a speech about Kissing not being necessary, I’m just going to assume he’s a little clumsy and too shy to say clearly that he’s not into it and, therefore, I won’t kiss him at all because I don’t rape people. Maybe this is what is happening with Jalimon - his speech makes girls think he doesn’t like to kiss and therefore they don’t do it. He gets great service because Montreal girls are great, and he thinks it has to do with not kissing. Maybe he actually doesn’t like kissing like he thought he did, and the fact there’s no kissing makes the encounter seem better to him. So many possibilities lol

 

[jalimon]

hum please read correctly i have mostly wonderful session since i do that little speech. I even get full real dfk more often!

cheers,

 

[Albacor]

For me, no DFK = not GFE , imagine no Frenchies from your girlfriend?

 

[Amandaxo]

Not all couples like to french kiss lol (ive yet to have a boyfriend that likes to dfk tbh all guys my age kiss lfk at most) . No dfk is still gfe . No correlation whatsoever.

Julia is right btw jal ahahah if you had told me that i wouldnt have kissed you assuming you dont like it.
Also some girls dont initiate kiss all the time because some clients dont like to kiss. (Theres quite a few tbh) so unless the client show some signs that he want to kiss they just dont go in first . (Ive done that a couple of times to clients that didnt seem like they wanted to kiss) .

 

[jalimon]

Amanda i never told you that no kissing speech because our first encounter was a bit different, if you recall

Cheers,

 

[sharkman]

I love it when SPs DFK my dick!

 

[Valcazar]

I had no idea this was such a source of passionate debate.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^^ Agreed, kissing is way down on my list when I see a SP.

 

[Fradi]

We are all different.
I would see my ATF just for the kissing she is that good.

It is not nonstop tonsil hockey as people describe it, it is probably more like 90% LFK with DFK at the right moment she knows how to tease and probe, she is a true artist.
Obviously for someone who is not into it, it doesn’t mean anything, just like anal doesn’t interest me.
Does she enjoy it.? she says she does, that is good enough for me.

 

[UncleBob]

I agree with the statement No DFK (Sensual LFK is fine with me) = Not GFE.
A GF that is not Kissing her BF is not a GF, it's a wife

Anyway, many girls interpret the GFE as they want to. Because they still want to use GFE in their ads to get calls.
But actually, even if some couples don't kiss, I don't believe it's the norm except maybe after some time together (WIFE),
And I always assumed that Montreal merb community among other regions too, adopted the definition of GFE according to the infamous RED BOOK of sex work acronyms (RBGFE).
http://sex-in-nevada.net/smforum/index.php?topic=3250.0

For me GFE Standard involves as a minimum DFK, BBBJ, DATY and a certain level of into it factor...

But since that GFE is still often mentionned but interpreted at the will of the poster, especially on ad's site, I always ask if GFE is offered and mention (DFK, BBBJ, DATY)...
For merb advertisers, I would expect not to have to confirm what is included in the GFE service advertised...

Even if a Not completly GFE is offered, does not mean it cannot be fun.
I repeated quite a few time with a girl that was giving a lot of DFK, but CBJ only. I had no problem with that...
But many girls advertise GFE without providing it just because they don't get as much calls otherwise...
Even if they are still providing an excellent service...

 

[jalimon]

A GF that is not Kissing her BF is not a GF, it's a wife

Haha good one. We should introduce WE. The wife experience. You get it all on the first few meet then if you stop repeating it will cost you half your house

Cheers,