More On Clemens Signing With Yankees
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History is the best teacher. Each has already been on the DL once this year. Each has a long recent injury history.EagerBeaver said:This sounds like so much wishful thinking to me. Do you have a view into a crystal ball that guarantees the Yankees starting pitchers will be on the DL and the Sox starters will be off of it? If so I would like to peek into this crystal ball.
rumpleforeskiin said:History is the best teacher.
EagerBeaver said:History also teaches that the Red Sox had a 4 game lead in July last year which was blown. History also teaches that the Yankees have won 9 straight AL East titles, including 2 years ago after starting the season 11-19, with worse pitching staffs.
Joe.t said:Oh by the way Red Sox fans have fun with Daisuke Matsusuck and his 5 plus ERA.
NEW YORK (AP) - For nearly $40 million, all the New York Yankees might get out of Carl Pavano is five wins.
Robert 21 said:Yankees Red Sox
Darrell Rasner, RHP (0-1, 3.86) Curt Schilling, RHP (3-1, 3.15)
Matt DeSalvo, RHP (0-0, -.--) Josh Beckett, RHP (6-0, 2.72)
Andy Pettitte, LHP (1-1, 3.00) Daisuke Matsuzaka, RHP (3-2, 5.45)
Mike Mussina, RHP (1-1, 5.73) Tim Wakefield, RHP (3-3, 2.11)
Kei Igawa, LHP (2-1, 7.63) Julian Tavarez, RHP (1-3, 6.48)
Mariano Rivera, RHP (1-2, 8.38, 3/5 Saves) Jonathan Papelbon, RHP (0-0, 1.46, 10/11 Saves)
So, this is a Team Sport.....take the 5 Starting Pitchers ERA...and get the Avg.
Yankees - 4.04
Red Sox - 3.98
Sorry, Robert, but this is the dumbest analysis I've ever seen. Your assumption that each pitcher has worked the same number of innings is faulty beyond belief.Robert 21 said:Yankees Red Sox
Darrell Rasner, RHP (0-1, 3.86) Curt Schilling, RHP (3-1, 3.15)
Matt DeSalvo, RHP (0-0, -.--) Josh Beckett, RHP (6-0, 2.72)
Andy Pettitte, LHP (1-1, 3.00) Daisuke Matsuzaka, RHP (3-2, 5.45)
Mike Mussina, RHP (1-1, 5.73) Tim Wakefield, RHP (3-3, 2.11)
Kei Igawa, LHP (2-1, 7.63) Julian Tavarez, RHP (1-3, 6.48)
Mariano Rivera, RHP (1-2, 8.38, 3/5 Saves) Jonathan Papelbon, RHP (0-0, 1.46, 10/11 Saves)
So, this is a Team Sport.....take the 5 Starting Pitchers ERA...and get the Avg.
Yankees - 4.04
Red Sox - 3.98
(not including Today's Results)
rumpleforeskiin said:Sorry, Robert, but this is the dumbest analysis I've ever seen. Your assumption that each pitcher has worked the same number of innings is faulty beyond belief.
Special K said:Apparently you're only using 4 out of the Yankees 5 starters, maybe you should add Chase Wright to the mix or any of the other 10 starters the Yanks have had to use this season.
You can believe whatver bullshit you choose to believe, Beav. The Sox offered Clemens $9 M, the Yankees offered $18 M. With the luxury tax, Clemens will cost the Yankees $25 M or $1.2 M per start.EagerBeaver said:Clemens said Jeter was instrumental in getting him, as he was constantly calling and emailing Roger and asking him to come back.
You really are quite cute, Beav. Do you really believe this bullshit? Nah. Clemens clubhouse presence will be limited to once every five days. The rest of the time, he'll be in Katy with the missus. Tutor Hughes? He's not likely to ever see Hughes pitch.EagerBeaver said:The Yankees are only paying Clemens $19 million when the contract is pro-rated. What they will be getting for this bargain is not only the performance of a Hall of Fame pitcher, but also, as Hideki Matsui said, a massive clubhouse presence and someone who loves to tutor young pitchers, which is exactly what the Yankees have in mind with Hughes, whom Clemens will see is a younger version of himself.
rumpleforeskiin said:The prevailing mood in the Sox clubhouse yesterday was: they need him, we don't.
You continue to be a moron, Joe. The Sox offered Clemens $9 M for the last three months of the season, knowing that there was no way he was going to take it.Joe.t said:If that were true then why did the Red Sox make a offer for him, truth be known is that Beckett and Wakefield are on a pace that cannot be sustained and sooner rather than later they will revert to the pitchers that they were last year and the same goes for Tavarez, Matsusuck has been a bust so far and just wait untill the injuries start piling up, do you think that Theo and Henry are second guessing the D-Mat signing, after all they probably could have used all that money to outbid the Yankees for the Rocket.