The Official 2016-17 NHL thread

[Doc Holliday]

Fuck, went to bed when not much time left and the GEO up 3-0, just checked TSN and they fucking lost. Oh wel, they better win at home tomorrow.

I switched channels with 5 minutes left to play & later went to bed. I wake up this morning to see that the Ducks scored three quick goals with three minutes to play and won the game in double OT???? WTF????

This has to be the biggest collapse in history!!!!

However, Connor McDavid supposedly promised a win in game 6, so who knows. I still believe the Oilers can come back to win the series.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

This has to be the biggest collapse in history!!!!

The biggest collapse in history still belongs to the leafs, Boston game 7, we may have tied that, it will be close.

I watched the highlights and the Oilers got robbed by the officials twice now, it was goaltender interference ( tying goal ), two games in a row.


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/oilers-...ference-call-for-second-straight-game~1116860

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

. This loss happened due to playoff inexperience. .

the loss is due to the refs, they fucked Calgary and now working on Edmonton, two games in a row, robbed by the refs.

 

[gaby]

Hope Ovechkin was watching the way Getzlaf plays the game....a true warrior and captain. I picked the Caps to win the Cup...too bad.

 

[EagerBeaver]

the loss is due to the refs, they fucked Calgary and now working on Edmonton, two games in a row, robbed by the refs.

They lost mainly because Getzlaf and Perry are warriors and refused to give up. There are always bad calls in epic sports losses but they don't matter if a 3-0 lead with 4 minutes to go gets properly closed out. It was the experience of the Ducks' two warrior players and the Oilers' youth and inexperience which has now caused several unfortunate defeats. Edmonton isn't losing on talent. They are losing on inexperience. Losses like this, while extremely painful for Oilers players and fans, are part of the growth process.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

The game wohld not have been tied if the refs did their job right, the series would be over if both goals were not allowed, it was plain as day in the replays. I can see missing a call but on a challange whefe there is proof and still allow the goal, bullshit.

 

[Doc Holliday]

The game wohld not have been tied if the refs did their job right, the series would be over if both goals were not allowed, it was plain as day in the replays. I can see missing a call but on a challange whefe there is proof and still allow the goal, bullshit.

That was definitely goalie interference on that tying goal. I don't know what the hell the NHL replay officials were looking at. It was clear-cut. But i wonder if the fact it was a game-tying goal didn't lead to the decision they made. Had the goal happened earlier in the game, it wouldn't have surprised me if the decision wouldn't have been reversed.

The NHL referees haven't had a very good playoffs. Hopefully the officiating will improve in the next rounds.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

The bullshit calls against the Oilers is all over the internet. One of the better comments.
So where does this leave us in the series? Well, the Oilers and NHL referees are now tied with two wins each. The Ducks also have a win

 

[Doc Holliday]

The bullshit calls against the Oilers is all over the internet. One of the better comments.
So where does this leave us in the series? Well, the Oilers and NHL referees are now tied with two wins each. The Ducks also have a win

I'm cheering for the Oilers. Sure, they likely got robbed by a bad no-call. But the Oilers were leading 3-0 with three minutes left to play and never should have put themselves in a position to even come close to losing that game. That's on them. And although that tying goal wasn't reversed, they still had a chance to win the game in overtime & once again did not come through. That's also on them.

So even though there's a couple of questionable calls (or no-calls) went against them, you have to remember that referees are human and humans make errors. And although the referees didn't think there was interference on that controversial play, they went to replay and the NHL officials ruled that there wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call. That's not the referees fault and to be honest, i'll bet many Ducks fans would have been enraged had the call been overturned.

The Oilers trail 3-2 in the series and they're the ones to blame for this.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

you have to remember that referees are human and humans make errors.

How can you make an error with a video replay? In the last 3 min the ducks pulled their goalie, the first 2 were a goal shit happens, the third should not have counted.
This is 2 games in a row where the Oilers should have won, guessing the refs had bets in Vegas.

 

[Doc Holliday]

How can you make an error with a video replay? In the last 3 min the ducks pulled their goalie, the first 2 were a goal shit happens, the third should not have counted.
This is 2 games in a row where the Oilers should have won, guessing the refs had bets in Vegas.

I totally understand your frustration. But maybe you would have a different opinion if you were an Anaheim Ducks fan. Maybe you'd believe that the correct calls were made.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

I totally understand your frustration. But maybe you would have a different opinion if you were an Anaheim Ducks fan. Maybe you'd believe that the correct calls were made.

But the correct calls were not made, sportscasters, newspapers, the media all call bullshit. If I was a Ducks fan I would probably thank my lucky stars that the refs were fucking useless, even they know they should have lost. I would be happy the call was made but I would also know it was not the correct call.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I totally understand your frustration. But maybe you would have a different opinion if you were an Anaheim Ducks fan. Maybe you'd believe that the correct calls were made.

The Ducks fans' board has attributed the wins to the playoff experience and warrior qualities of Getzlaf and Perry, who came through in the decisive moments of game 5, while the Oilers' star players failed to do so and failed to overcome the perceived bad calls. Sports is about rising above and overcoming adversity, and the Ducks were able to do that and the Oilers could not.

In my mind, the Oilers are going down in a similar fashion to the Leafs vs. the Capitals, where the Leafs gave Washington all they could handle but in the end Washington's superior experience won the series. In a few years both the Leafs and Oiler teams could be battling for Stanley Cups in the finals, but neither of these young squads is ready for that yet. I believe it will happen, but not for a few years.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

In my mind, the Oilers are going down in a similar fashion to the Leafs vs. the Capitals, where the Leafs gave Washington all they could handle but in the end Washington's superior experience won the series. In a few years both the Leafs and Oiler teams could be battling for Stanley Cups in the finals, but neither of these young squads is ready for that yet. I believe it will happen, but not for a few years.

Do you not watch the news, read the papers? The Ducks should be out now and the Oilers moving up. Nothing to do with playoff experience, the only reason the Ducks are playing is because of the refs. The Oilers are beating the Ducks and the refs are beating the Oilers.

 

[Doc Holliday]

In my mind, the Oilers are going down in a similar fashion to the Leafs vs. the Capitals, where the Leafs gave Washington all they could handle but in the end Washington's superior experience won the series. In a few years both the Leafs and Oiler teams could be battling for Stanley Cups in the finals, but neither of these young squads is ready for that yet. I believe it will happen, but not for a few years.

Sorry, but this is pure bullshit. Experience did NOT beat the Maple Leafs in their series against Washington. Every single game ended with a one-goal margin, and five of them went to overtime. The winning team in each overtime got the right bounce. The outcome could have went either way. Braeden Holtby was also phenomenal in his final 2 games. Were it not for him, the Leafs would still be playing hockey. In that particular series, experience did not matter.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Do you not watch the news, read the papers? The Ducks should be out now and the Oilers moving up. Nothing to do with playoff experience, the only reason the Ducks are playing is because of the refs. The Oilers are beating the Ducks and the refs are beating the Oilers.

I absolutely agree with you on this one. The Oilers actually looked as much 'experienced' as the Ducks in their series. The only reason why it's 3-2 for Anaheim instead of 3-2 for Edmonton is because of bad calls & bad luck.

Look, the Penguins tied it up a few nights ago by scoring two very late goals to take the game to overtime. The Capitals are certainly not an inexperienced playoffs team. This can happen to any team especially against the fire-power some of these remaining playoffs teams have. The Capitals were somewhat lucky to win the game in overtime, but as i mentioned above anything can happen in overtime and luck has a lot to do with the final outcome in many of those 'overtime' games.

Go Oilers, Go Senators, Go PK!!!! :thumb:

 

[EagerBeaver]

Sorry, but this is pure bullshit. Experience did NOT beat the Maple Leafs in their series against Washington. Every single game ended with a one-goal margin, and five of them went to overtime. The winning team in each overtime got the right bounce. The outcome could have went either way. Braeden Holtby was also phenomenal in his final 2 games. Were it not for him, the Leafs would still be playing hockey. In that particular series, experience did not matter.

Holtby is an experienced and seasoned playoff tested goalie

 

[EagerBeaver]

Do you not watch the news, read the papers? The Ducks should be out now and the Oilers moving up. Nothing to do with playoff experience, the only reason the Ducks are playing is because of the refs. The Oilers are beating the Ducks and the refs are beating the Oilers.

You should read the Ducks' fan board and this post in particular:

http://fans.ducks.nhl.com/community/topic/15053-one-of-the-greatest-wins-ever/

"Most of your points are from biased Oil sources. Also Kessler could not get out. He was down with Nurse right on top of him. Laws of physics. In addition, if the game was handed to the Ducks by the refs how do you explain getting MASSIVELY outshot?? That alone says the Ducks were pounding the Oil. Talbut has been the Oils only saving grace but when your getting so out shot he can only do so much. Another thing, the refs had given the Oil a 5 on 3 and I don't see Ducks crying about it. Lastly, if the refs are sooo bad then one of those Oil goals shouldn't count because they missed the high stick to the face on Perry right before Oil scored one. So if you want to trade goals that "should never have happened" then we are still seeing a Ducks win by 1 goal anyways.

Its laughable to use the bias thing when it comes to the Ducks. He if anything the NHL would want the Oil to advance not the Ducks let me explain..... 1. the Oil are backed by ""the Great One"" Gretzky whom the NHL adores 2. Then there is the Next One ""McNeo"" whom the media today can't stop taking about 3. (Yes there is more), The Oil are a Canadian team and the refs are mostly Canadian with 'a war room' also ... guess where... YES Canada too. 4. Because of #3 the NHL would want to get more revenue from people watching so more than likely they would benefit from an oil team advancing and not a small market team where most of the fans are and not in the high numbers because it competes with the popular well known bigger draw of movies and Hollywood in Los Angeles Kings."

How can you respond to that?

 

[Doc Holliday]

Holtby is an experienced and seasoned playoff tested goalie

Ken Dryden had zero playoffs experience in 1971 and he was phenomenal in leading the Montreal Canadiens to the Stanley Cup. Earlier, Rogatien Vachon played only 11 games in the regular season before leading the Canadiens to the 1967 finals against Toronto. Vachon was phenomenal throughout the playoffs and he was the main reason why the habs were able to get to the finals. Michael Leighton got hot at the right time a few years ago and led the Philadelphia Flyers to a game 7 overtime in the Stanley Cup finals. Grant Fuhr didn't have much playoffs experience prior to leading the EDMONTON OILERS to their Stanley Cup run in the early 80's. There are all kinds of stories of goalies without playoffs experience over the years having phenomenal playoffs and leading their respective teams to the finals.

Remember Patrick Roy? He became a superstar in his first playoffs (1986) and led the Montreal Canadiens to their first Stanley Cup win in a decade against the Calgary Flames. Roy was absolutely phenomenal thoughout the playoffs and won the Conn Smyth as the top performer in the playoffs. What a performance!!!

Freddie Anderssen had as good a playoff as Holtby did, but the difference was that Washington got one more goal and were luckier in overtime. Flipping a coin to determine the winner of an overtime period is as effective as any expert predicting which team will score the winning goal.

p.s. Where is that seasoned & experienced playoff-tested goalie now? If you ask me, he's been brutal!!!

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

"Most of your points are from biased Oil sources.

Pardon! Check out the Montreal Gazette, TSN and any others you choose, you quote from a Ducks site and assume it is correct. I used to think you were level headed.... until now...