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That is quite a bold statement MISTER Holliday and i would rather have another stud top 5 pick to go along with Nylander and Marner for the near future than to make the playoffs and get bounced in the first round Let's be realistic here, MISTER Babcock has the good guys playing extrememly well most nights but i am not expecting the playoffs this season. Look at it this way, Nylander, Marner Reily, another stud Dman in the draft and oh yea, Steven Stamkos would be nice as well :D
 

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I agree that the playoffs are not expected and that a top 10 pick would be great, but realistically the playoffs are a possibility considering the way this team is playing. If management isn't crazy about making the playoffs (MLSE shareholders may differ) then they'll have to trade away the whole team since the current one won't have none of it. Unless, of course they call up Bernier next week and put him between the pipes and hope he lets in his usual 1-2 softies per game. ;)

By the way, i read yesterday that Mitch Marner may be the top player in junior hockey and that Billy Nylander may be the top player in the minors. Things are looking good! :thumb:

p.s. The draft lottery will be using a different system this upcoming draft. There will be several draws, not just one, giving all non-playoff teams better chances at getting a top 5 pick. And if the Leafs do make the playoffs (or not), they could always try to trade their 2 first-rounders to a team with a potential top 5 pick.
 

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Just heard this from Jeff O'Neil on Leafs Lunch (TSN 4):

"Maybe Steven Stamkos is holding out because he wants to be a Maple Leafs!"


Also heard this from co-host Brian Hayes:

"I don't want Mitch Marner and William Nylander to become Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle 2.0. So leave them on the farm."

By the way, the Leafs are 10-5-4 in non-Bernier games.
 

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Possible controversy brewing in Tampa. Today during Leafs Lunch (TSN 4), a tweet came up saying "Leafs should pursue Stamkos". Guess what?? Stamkos then saw it and indicated he 'liked' the tweet. Some speculate its showing his intention, others saying its simply to piss off Steve Yzerman and/or John Cooper, etc.
 

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Stammer is likely using these tactics to get the Bolts to give him exactly what he wants, but can they? Do they have a choice? He IS that franchise.
 

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Stammer is likely using these tactics to get the Bolts to give him exactly what he wants, but can they? Do they have a choice? He IS that franchise.

Stamkos refused a maximum contract rumoured to be between 10-15 years at the time he signed his 5-year deal. I was told by reliable sources who have been in touch with the Stamkos family that he's had his sights on one day joining the Leafs from the moment he was drafted by the Bolts. That's why he never signed a longer contract when his first re-negotiation came up. John Tavares is another player i've heard who may one day want to join the Leafs. They are from the Toronto area and it's quite understandable why they'd want to play for the team they grew up idolizing and live among family members and life-long friends. It's also quite understandable why they'd want to join this particular organization as it stands now. It's highly competent and the class of the league! Plus it has the best coach in the world!

By the way, if you haven't already seen it, i watched the first episode of Leafs Blueprint yesterday. It was on two weeks ago and the second episode will come up this week. You can also watch it on You Tube. I really liked it! :thumb:

By the way, Stamkos will be an unrestricted free agent on July 1st. I've been told he wants to play in a major hockey market while in his prime. His #1 choice would be Toronto. Bozak and Lupul will be coming off the books once the season is over. Phaneuf may get traded by the trade deadline. The Leafs would have plenty of money to sign Stamkos if they can get him to agree to something in the neighbourhood of a $10 million US/per year contract, similar to what Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews signed.
 

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Stammer is likely using these tactics to get the Bolts to give him exactly what he wants, but can they? Do they have a choice? He IS that franchise.

I've heard from several sources that Stamkos and Cooper can't stand one another. Cooper signed an extension, which i was told totally pissed Stamkos off. Yzerman might not have a choice but to trade Stamkos this season if the team doesn't improve and when he finally realizes that Stamkos will not be returning next season. Stammer may actually become a rent-a-player at the trade deadline, which would be shocking to many.
 

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Doc, i will be watching "Blueprint" soon, thanks for reminding me. With the way Babcocks system is working since November 1, (told everyone it would take at least 20 games for a new team to learn a new system) i suppose the playoffs would be possible but again, i will take a top 5 pick in another pretty deep draft, anyday to further the rebuild. No more one step forward two steps back please. Stamkos a Leaf? That is almost as good as sex, in fact if that were to happen on July 1, i think i would go out and celebrate with my first ever 4some! :D
 

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I agree with you. But the way the draft is set up starting this year doesn't necessarily mean a team will get a high pick even if they finish close to the basement.
 
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This thread is starting to get interesting again. With the Leafs playing well lately it raises the value of some of their players. I believe they will be sellers at the trade deadline. And promote some guys who are playing well in the minors. Keep loading up picks and prospects. It would help if they could sign Stamkos in the summer. Things are starting to get interesting in Leafs nation.
 

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This thread is starting to get interesting again. With the Leafs playing well lately it raises the value of some of their players. I believe they will be sellers at the trade deadline. And promote some guys who are playing well in the minors. Keep loading up picks and prospects. It would help if they could sign Stamkos in the summer. Things are starting to get interesting in Leafs nation.

I totally agree. That's why so many veterans are being showcased. Hopefully in order to raise their trade value and gather interest around the league. Players such as Joffrey Lupul, Tyer Bozak, Roman Polak, Brad Boyes, P-A Parenteau and other vets are very likely gone by the trade deadline. Bernier or Reimer are also likely gone. Phaneuf will be hard to move because of his contract.
 

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Frank Corrado expected to finally make his Maple Leaf debut

After being acquired on waivers from the Canucks, the young defenceman has been a healthy scratch for 22 games.

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by Dave Feschuk, The Toronto Star

It’s been more than nine weeks since the Maple Leafs acquired Frank Corrado via the waiver wire.

And for the 22 games since, Corrado has done nothing but watch as a healthy scratch. But come Tuesday at the Air Canada Centre, the GTA-bred defenceman is expected to be granted the privilege of his Maple Leafs debut.

After slogging through what Leafs GM Lou Lamoriello has called “an unfortunate set of circumstances” — chief among them the fact coach Mike Babcock didn’t want him in the lineup — Corrado looks like a lock to play against the Tampa Bay Lightning.

And while Babcock has said previously that when Corrado is put into the lineup it’ll be for a string of games, there have been no promises made beyond Tuesday.
“I wouldn’t guarantee anything to anybody. Because the truth in hockey today isn’t the same as tomorrow,” Babcock said. “He’s going to play (Tuesday’s) game.”

Corrado pronounced the idea of finally playing for his hometown team “pretty cool.”

“It might take a few shifts to get back in your rhythm,” Corrado, 22, told reporters on Saturday. “(But) once I get out there, it’s the ACC, hometown team, lot of friends and family in the building . . . I feel like that’ll take care of itself.”

Corrado’s time spent languishing as a practice player has led to plenty of questions about the wisdom of acquiring him in the first place. Vancouver general manager Jim Benning, who waived Corrado back in October, said back then that for Corrado to develop “he has to play.”

But Babcock has been unapologetic in taking his time to work the fifth-round pick into the rotation.

“When we talk about how hard it is (for Corrado not to play), it sounds like he’s not in the NHL every day and not getting paid and not flying on the nice plane,” said Babcock on Saturday. “I have a hard time feeling sorry for guys playing in the National Hockey League myself. Now, do you have a better lot in life if you’re playing 20 minutes a night? Absolutely. But if you work hard and you compete hard and you do good things, even coaches catch on after a while.”

Corrado expected to finally make season debut
 

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A buddy of mine just called me to tell me he was the Marlies game earlier and they lost in overtime. He told me Bernier was terrible and allowed a couple of softies.
 

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3 shutouts and then a bad game is a damn good winning percentage, hopefully he does well tuesday to continue his way back to being "Big Game" Bernier :D
 

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3 shutouts and then a bad game is a damn good winning percentage, hopefully he does well tuesday to continue his way back to being "Big Game" Bernier :D

My buddy told me he was absolutely awful. He says people at the game were telling him they had heard the Leafs would likely buy him out at the end of the season. It would make sense since he's got only a year left to go. I think he let in 5 goals or something. My buddy was begging me to tell him Bernier wouldn't be between the pipes on Tuesday. I told him i had no idea, and if he was, the orders would come from upstairs since it's fairly well-known that Babcock has no more use for him. He's lost all confidence he had left in Bernier and i even heard from members of the Leafs media the other day that there's a chance Bernier may never play another game for the Leafs. Time will tell.

He's never been the same since being ridiculed around the planet last season for his Nelson Mandela flub. But considering the Kings didn't get much for him at the time they traded him to Toronto, maybe they knew something Toronto didn't. I was shocked at the time that all it cost the Leafs was Matt Frattin.
 

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Right now i'd trade him for Tokarski! lol

Joking aside, my buddy is extremely impressed with Mitch Marner. He's certain he'll be with the big club next season. I told him likely in two years and he said i'm nuts. I told him they'll show patience like they're doing with Nylander. I also told him it's as much a cap issue as anything else. They'll have more control over what he gets paid and what he'll cost in cap numbers in the future.

I basically told him that they won't pull a Galchenyuk. I still feel it was a huge mistake to throw him to the wolves at age 18. And on top of things, he had nearly missed his entire final junior season due to a torn acl. His first season with the habs three years ago was a short one due to the lockout. The habs should have instead kept him at junior for the rest of that year or at the very least send him to the minors. It slowed his progress. And then three years later at only age 21, he was already RFA and wanted to get a big multiyear contract without having proven anything. Good thing Bergevin stuck to his guns, but it's a sign of things to come in two years. And he's yet to prove anything and he's already in his 4th year in the NHL.
 

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Back from minors, Leafs’ Bernier gets another ‘opportunity'

by Ian Shantz, Toronto Sun

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Fifteen minutes before the players were scheduled to hit the ice at the MasterCard Centre Monday, the scene looked like some sort of terrible Maple Leafs joke.

Three goalies were on the ice, accompanied by a goalie coach — and two mannequins on skates.

There was James Reimer, felled by a groin injury that will likely keep him sidelined for the foreseeable future, though he has not been placed on injured reserve. And there was Garret Sparks, the Marlies callup who has filled in admirably on what has been a packed Leafs’ goalie carousel of late. Of course, Jonathan Bernier was there, too, back from a successful AHL conditioning stint he and the Leafs hope translates into something of value at the NHL level.

Reimer departed before full practice got underway, but Sparks and Bernier stuck around.

Afterwards, Mike Babcock announced he has made his decision as the Leafs get back to business Tuesday following a scheduling oddity that has seen the squad without a game to play over the past week.

Bernier: Here’s your second chance. Again.

“He’ll start tomorrow and give himself an opportunity,” Babcock said. “That’s what it’s all about, obviously. We need everyone playing the best they can. Here’s your opportunity.”

With the Tampa Bay Lightning in town to trigger the start of three consecutive home games this week, the Leafs have determined the best course of action is to give Bernier his first NHL start since Nov. 28.

It’s the safe choice, if only from the standpoint that it allows maintenance of a healthy relationship between goalie, coach and team as a whole. The Laval, Que., native recorded three shutouts in the AHL before struggling in his final start, so his confidence is better for the experience. Putting the 27-year-old back in an NHL crease as soon as possible provides him the chance to keep the positive vibes rolling.

If anything, Bernier, who has yet to register a win in nine games with the rebuilding Leafs this season, needs to know his team — and coach — are keeping their faith in him.

On Monday, Bernier acknowledged his time on the farm was eye-opening, enjoyable and rewarding physically and mentally. It was the reset button he needed to hit.

“When you come back up, you just have to say to yourself that it’s still just hockey,” Bernier said of his mindset coming off his first practice with the Leafs, having started the previous day with the Marlies. “I just want to play better for the guys, that’s the bottom line. Win or lose, I just want to play my game and I know I can make a difference in this locker room and on the ice.”

Of course, the argument could be made that Bernier has done little to earn a start, and should he falter against Steven Stamkos and Co., all bets are off on the former No. 1’s future in Toronto.

In the same breath, Sparks’ play has not warranted a return to gate-opener status. With the 22-year-old Sparks in the crease, the Leafs, who have few wins this season, have a winning record. If the franchise intends on making the late-round 2011 draft pick part of its future, there is perhaps no time like the present to give the Chicago-area native an extended look, what with the Leafs not exactly expected to do any damage this season.

But Sparks isn’t signed to a multi-million dollar contract. So the Leafs can only bank on Bernier turning a corner and re-establishing himself as the top-level goalie he has shown flashes of throughout his career before the patience of his bosses runs out, not to mention a significant chunk of investment by the Leafs being put in jeopardy.

In essence, this just might be the most critical start of Bernier’s career.

“Our job as coaches is to maximize everyone’s skillset,” Babcock said. “In saying that, your obligation as a player is to make sure you’re ready to go mentally and physically. We’re in a competitive league. That’s the reality of the situation. There’s only 23 jobs and you’ve got to grab on to one of them ... you’ve got to hang on to it. The ball’s in your court.”

Perhaps giving the nod to one of those practice mannequins would have been an easier decision for Babcock, who along with the Leafs’ upper brass will be watching Bernier’s performance closely.
 
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