As I said earlier, one of the fallacies promoted by some of the posts earlier in this thread, that "Transgender women are exactly the same as biological women", is that the hips can easily be simulated. Women are NATURALLY curvier then men. A woman born a woman has curvature in the hips due in part to a larger bone mass in the hip bones which grows during puberty in order to protect the unborn child of child bearing females. How some posters can conveniently ignore this basic fact of human anatomy is really beyond belief. The truth is that the only way for an adult transgender woman to get wider hips is with implants which is (a) more fakery, and (b) also unsafe and dangerous. This seems to be a huge problem for transgender women because they cannot go back in time and re-enact puberty, so the only choice is surgery and implants and it's never a good idea to have significant surgery on your body for purely cosmetic reasons.
Transgender who advertise as female escorts... right or wrong?
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As I said earlier, one of the fallacies promoted by some of the posts earlier in this thread, that "Transgender women are exactly the same as biological women", is that the hips can easily be simulated. Women are NATURALLY curvier then men. A woman born a woman has curvature in the hips due in part to a larger bone mass in the hip bones which grows during puberty in order to protect the unborn child of child bearing females. How some posters can conveniently ignore this basic fact of human anatomy is really beyond belief. The truth is that the only way for an adult transgender woman to get wider hips is with implants which is (a) more fakery, and (b) also unsafe and dangerous. This seems to be a huge problem for transgender women because they cannot go back in time and re-enact puberty, so the only choice is surgery and implants and it's never a good idea to have significant surgery on your body for purely cosmetic reasons.
Me personally, I guess I would freak out (especially if it ended up being confirmed). And obviously I'd feel deceived. But I'd eventually get over it.
I read someone say that they'd be scarred for years, which is a bit extreme imho. A few weeks...maybe a few months. But years, no. Life is too short to dwell on mistakes. Maybe I'd quit hobbying over it, dunno.
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Your hole paragraph is Implying that you are reaching a different conclusion then I did !
I now know that after quoting one person and specifically saying " you were "actually applies to everyone
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Well Sam21 since I did not have any conclusions, it cannot be a prerequisite!
That was the purpose of this question
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Which is part of my point. If any guy did have sex with a transgender it would be 50% his fault for not asking first. You can't blame it all on the other person when he/she is doing the same basic thing you are, avoiding an issue to avoid breaking the mood.
You're not even trying. I don't care what her mood is. The point is hypocrisy. The clients are scared to death they'd be fooled and have sex with a transgender, but they won't do the first thing about it, such as ask. It's all on the transgender to tell like you guys still need mommy holding your hand. How much money are you asking them to piss away...per person...because you wouldn't man-up and ask. Frankly if you won't ask I hope she doesn't volunteer the information. Enjoy the RIDE! Since you won't ask maybe you already had one.
No, because if there was any question I'd handle it like an adult. I'm not the one SCARED some transgender won't help me avoid having sex with her.
She is wrong to hide it from a client. But all of us are hiding many things to get laid and yet you expect all transgenders to be absolutely when we clients hardly ever are. It's a double standard.
If you are going to rely on anyone telling you all the truth then you are BOTH at fault.
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Unless you redefine meanings of words ?:whoo:
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Admitting you are lost ,so easily !Wow :lol:
Exactly I had no conclusion ! Therefor you implied
Unless you redefine meanings of words ?:whoo:
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We come into this hobby to have a lot fun in very guarded secrecy. No doubt many of us have had issues that would hurt or cut our chances for that, and then many of us still want risky services too. We go on for years in this way. Escorts, including transgenders, probably have much the same story yet it's likely we never ask about anything they've done that could turn us off of what we want.
Transgenders are no different. They are here for a purpose, to make money, but because who they are offends our sensibilities we expect them to be honest and open in a business where secrecy is everything. Do you think they will do that when the rest of us don't. Do you think they will throw away all the $$$ they can make because you find being with them, IF you knew, objectionable.
No matter how wrong it is to deceive none of the escorts or transgenders are going to tell you things that will cut their profits, even if you ask.
The issue isn't whether it's wrong transgenders don't tell, the issue is whether you understand what situation you have chosen to get into. Whether you think a transgender is dead wrong about not revealing her past or not is not going to affect the secrecy EVERYONE needs to enjoy this hobby.
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Transgenders are no different. They are here for a purpose, to make money, but because who they are offends our sensibilities we expect them to be honest and open in a business where secrecy is everything. Do you think they will do that when the rest of us don't. Do you think they will throw away all the $$$ they can make because you find being with them, IF you knew, objectionable.
No matter how wrong it is to deceive none of the escorts or transgenders are going to tell you things that will cut their profits, even if you ask.
The issue isn't whether it's wrong transgenders don't tell, the issue is whether you understand what situation you have chosen to get into. Whether you think a transgender is dead wrong about not revealing her past or not is not going to affect the secrecy EVERYONE needs to enjoy this hobby.
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OK passionne this question should really be on a poll.
Let me ask you that if you had a session with a pretty and well reviewed lady who had a bit of a strange pussy but none the less you had a good time.
Later you found out that she was post op trans.
Would you be happy, not give a damn or angry as hell.
I would be angry for being deceived....and in all honesty feeling quite uncomfortable.
But then again I`ve made friends with hundred`s of real pussy`s and know what to look for in a fake one.
Let me ask you that if you had a session with a pretty and well reviewed lady who had a bit of a strange pussy but none the less you had a good time.
Later you found out that she was post op trans.
Would you be happy, not give a damn or angry as hell.
I would be angry for being deceived....and in all honesty feeling quite uncomfortable.
But then again I`ve made friends with hundred`s of real pussy`s and know what to look for in a fake one.
I'd be mortified. I've never claimed otherwise or denied it. That's not the point.
Turn it around in a way that's just as fair. If an escort or transgender found out after sex there was something extremely objectionable about a client concerning diseases, drugs, perversion that made them feel sick or put them at risk should they "be happy, not give a damn or angry as hell."
You've been reading this board as long as I. From everything you've read you know clients, escorts, agencies, transgenders all know who and what risks they are dealing with, what may be hidden behind anyone, and yet go happily on. Some want to single out transgenders because it offends their sexuality. Well, there are habits like drugs, uncovered sex, gangbangs and more that threaten my well-being that offend me just as much. Are all the ladies I might meet going to make a list of their activities and are the clients they met going to do the same? No.
I just remembered the event that happened 30 years ago or so. After having sex with a prostitute a guy walks to find a message on his mirror in lipstick. "Welcome to the World of Aids". She was not a transgender. Now which is worse??? How would we feel?
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True, and I would also prefer not to take a gunshot anywhere, but if I was compelled to choose it would be left butt cheek.
I was bitten in the right butt cheek by a dog about 25 years ago. I figure a shot in the left butt cheek would even the score, so to speak
That was an urban legend popular at the peak of the AIDS hysteria.
There are dozens of versions, with prostitutes, drag queens, transexuals, cheating wives, cheating husbands, just about everything imaginable.
In New Zealand they probably have a version involving sheep.
I'm not trying to justify anything, I'm trying to put in perspective how one-sided it is to demand a transgender person be open and honest about everything when no one on the client side would ever do the same, though both sides are equally self-interested to get out of this hobby what they want.
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