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#1 Cause of premature death in the US: Gun violence.
#2 Cause of premature death in the US: Texting while driving.
If you are driving and see somebody texting, don't honk your horn or wave your fist at them. They have a gun and voila! instant drive-by shooting.
 

CaptRenault

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You can't discuss "weapons in the USA" without also discussing who is doing the killing and who is being killed by guns. What weapons are mostly being used-are they legally owned rifles or illegal handguns? Liberals, led by Joe Biden, want you to believe that vast numbers of white supremacists are roaming the countryside like zombies armed with assault rifles while randomly killing black Americans in mass killings. That's not the case.

The essence of the gun problem in the USA is young black males killing other young black males with illegal handguns.

In the aftermath of the Nashville mass shooting in April (incidentally committed by a "trans-man" i.e. a girl who wished she were a boy), some black members of the Tennessee legislature staged an illegal takeover of the legislature (some called it an insurrection) as a way of drawing attention to what they perceived as the solution to the gun problem: take legally owned rifles away from Republicans). Columnist Ann Coulter reacted:


...More than half of all black teenagers who died of any cause in 2020 were killed by guns. Black males 15- to 34-years-old were more than 20 times more likely to die by gun homicide than white males that age.

Unfortunately, there is probably no story of less interest to our media (or the president) than the epidemic of black teenagers killing one another. In Jill Leovy’s acclaimed book, “Ghettoside: A True Story of Murder in America,” there’s a full page of racist quotes explaining why, historically, “black-on-black killing drew so little notice.” This one is from a white Tennessean during Reconstruction: “[N-word] life’s cheap now.”

Or, as Cook County (Illinois) State’s Attorney Kim Foxx put it in declining to prosecute a gang shootout, it’s “mutual combat.”

Far from highlighting the crisis of black teenagers shooting one another and declaring a national emergency, the media, corporate America and Democrats mightily egged on black violence after the death of George Floyd. It’s fun for them. They get to watch riot porn from the safety of their lily-white neighborhoods.

The only people who actually give a damn about black people getting killed are the police. And who have the bien-pensants declared war on? You guessed right.

Propose anything that would actually reduce the plague of black-on-black crime, such as arresting, prosecuting and imprisoning criminals, and liberals scream, STOP PUTTING BLACK BODIES IN PRISON!

Needless to say, Justin Jones and Justin Pearson, the Tennessee representatives who attacked democracy because they were JUST TRYING TO SAVE CHILDREN’S LIIIIIVES, are huge BLM supporters. They prattle about “ending police violence,” blacks being “lynched by police officers,” and accuse the police of running a “system of white supremacy.”

Jones told Teen Vogue that “more policing does not lead to community safety.” (The thousands of black men who are still alive thanks to Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s more policing policy would disagree.) Instead, Jones proposed “more funding to social workers, public education [and] ending poverty.” (Why didn’t anybody else think of that?)

On NPR, Pearson blamed “white supremacy” for the death of Tyre Nichols. (“White supremacy” is such an awesome force, it even infected the five black Memphis police officers charged with Nichols’ death.)

You want to know who doesn’t care about “our children’s lives,” MSNBC? You, the rest of the media, George Soros-supported prosecutors and the entire Democratic Party. Their motto: “[N-word] life’s cheap now.”
 

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It looks like FOX “News” is broadcasting at full strength in Canada and able to penetrate tin foil hats and thick skulls.
I don’t think there’s a Canadian equivalent.
That’s part of the draw to Canada.

Try Florida. Their Yale U /Harvard Law educated Governor is more MAGA (whatever that really means, but it screams ignorance) than trump. Guns are available & it’s always “hunting” season, and a lot warmer in Jan/Feb.

The GOP is the Grievance party.
Turning the calendar back to 1860 isn’t a viable platform. Maybe with enough AR-15s they’ll try.
 

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The black-on-black shooting and killing season opened in Chicago this Memorial Day weekend. The count so far is 40+ shot and nine killed. o_O

If only we could get the otherwise peaceful thugs to voluntarily turn in their illegal guns and go back to studying peaceful subjects like CRT, DEI and gender studies, everything would be hunky-dory! :D

 
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Poverty, street gangs, and guns are a deadly combination. Many of the guns are coming into Chicago from Indiana.
 
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Maybe it's reasonable for Canada to warn its citizens that they could be in danger of becoming the victim of a crime in the U.S. But it is extremely unlikely that a Canadian tourist or anyone would become the victim of a mass shooting in the U.S.

However, America does have a violent crime problem and the problem is becoming worse in large cities with Democrat mayors, leftist prosecutors and judges and police forces that have been demoralized and downsized by deliberate Democrat policies. I would advise Canadians not to visit New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Oakland, Seattle, Baltimore, St. Louis, New Orleans, Memphis, Philadelphia and quite a few other cities.

Though mass shootings are tragic and disturbing the truth about mass shootings is that they are relatively rare compared to other kinds of crime and other dangers:

Sorrow and Precaution, Not Hysteria

“There is not an epidemic of mass shootings,” says James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University who has been tracking these events for decades and helps keep the AP/USA Today/Northeastern Mass Killing database. “What’s increasing and is out of control is the epidemic of fear.”

As Fox notes, the annual odds that an American child will die in a mass shooting at school are nearly 10 million to 1, about the odds of being killed by lightning or of dying in an earthquake. Those are also about the same odds that any American will die in a mass public shooting like the recent one in Buffalo. Such numbers, of course, are no consolation to the grieving parents and families in Uvalde and Buffalo, but neither is the frenzy to manipulate these tragedies for ratings and political gain.

There are legitimate issues to debate about criminal violence in America, which has indeed been increasing, but we’re not going to identify the causes or remedies by focusing on a few isolated crimes and traumatizing Americans in the process. Surveys show that half of Americans worry about being the victim of a mass shooting, and a third of them avoid going to certain places and events because of this fear. More than 60 percent of parents worry that their child will be killed in a mass shooting at school.

Children do need to be better protected from criminals, and there might be ways to make schools safer, but students don’t need the active-shooter drills now conducted in over 95 percent of the nation’s schools, and which are associated with higher levels of depression, stress and anxiety. Nor do children and parents need to hear the deceptive statistics promoted by the press and the White House’s fearmonger-in-chief...



What Canadians should fear is becoming a victim of everyday violent crime, especially by black offenders. Writer Heather Mac Donald explains why in an article in City Journal:

...The narrative that blacks are at elevated risk for “existing while black” is true, but not because whites are killing them. Their assailants are other blacks, which means that these black victims are of no interest to the race activists and to their media and political allies.

Kansas City’s black-white homicide disparity is typical. In 2022, blacks made up 60 percent of homicide victims, though they are 26.5 percent of the population. Whites were 22 percent of homicide victims, though they make up 60 percent of the Kansas City population. A black Kansas Cityean was six times more likely to be killed in 2022 than a white Kansas Cityean. So far this year, blacks make up 75 percent of homicide victims...

...If blacks kill at nine times the rate of whites in Kansas City but die of homicide at only six times the rate of whites in Kansas City, what makes up the difference? Blacks killing people outside their own race. That disparity applies to non-lethal as well as to lethal violence. In 2021, 87 percent of all non-lethal interracial violent crimes committed between blacks and whites in the U.S. were black-on-white—480,030 incidents with a black offender and white victim, and 69,850 incidents with a white offender and black victim, or seven times as many black-on-white as white-on-black incidents of interracial non-lethal violence. In other words, whites have more to fear from blacks than blacks from whites, a fact contrary to the race-hustle narrative.

The distribution of interracial violence means that an “X-ing while white” meme is a more appropriate way of representing racial crime patterns. Recent instantiations of the “while white” meme would include: “accosting shoplifters while white” (California Home Depot employee fatally shot while trying to prevent a theft); “reporting on a crime while white” (Florida journalist fatally shot working the scene of a homicide investigation, cameraman critically injured in same shooting); “riding the subway while white” (two 19-year-old females punched and robbed on Times Square subway by larger group of females wearing dayglo green body suits); “bicycling while white” (California emergency room doctor run over and fatally stabbed by man who reportedly had complained about “white privilege”); “jogging while white” (young Memphis mother abducted, raped, and killed); “walking downtown while white” (Minneapolis man thrown to the ground, stomped on, stripped of pants, run over with a bicycle, hit with planters, and robbed by group of teens); “holding on to one’s wallet while white” (Minneapolis man beaten unconscious after refusing to give up his wallet in attempted robbery); “walking in school hallway while white” (New Jersey ninth-grader punched, kicked, and hit with water bottle in high school, later commits suicide); “existing in school while white” (Florida girl beaten in head by five females); “riding a city bus while white” (57-year-old female hit in the head with an unknown object on a Queens bus by two teenage girls and a third individual); “riding a school bus while white” (12-year-old boy in Virginia choked by female classmate).

If any of these incidents had had black victims and white perpetrators, there would have been a national, if not international, uproar. Every news outlet would be covering the emergency of white supremacy and Joe Biden would have given another of his speeches about the stain of white racism on America’s soul.

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The fact is that gun deaths are much higher, per capita, in republican rural America than in urban areas.
 
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The fact is that gun deaths are much higher, per capita, in republican rural America than in urban areas.
Gun death rates are higher in rural America because of suicide by gun. Suicide by any method are tragic, but they pose no danger to tourists or other residents of a rural area.

If some poor soul shoots himself in the head while sitting in his house in rural Georgia, I am in no danger of the bullet going astray and hitting me while I drive by 10 miles away. But if I am walking through downtown Chicago or midtown Manhattan or walking in my local mall, I am fearful that some gangbangers wielding illegal handguns may decide to have a wild shootout with each other--the bullets could easily strike me and others. A rational person fears the things that are most likely to harm him. :rolleyes:


A higher prevalence of gun ownership in rural America has contributed to increased suicides, raising the overall gun-death rate in rural areas above that of urban communities.

Experts say some legal interventions that have broad public support could help lower the risk of people harming themselves or others with guns.

In 2020, the rural gun death rate was 28% higher than the urban rate. Nonmetropolitan counties reported 17.01 deaths per 100,000 residents, compared to a rate of 13.19 in urban America, according to CDC reports.
 
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Every yeat over 25,000 'poor souls' in America end their lives by suicide with a gun. That's a shocking number. The rate of suicide by gun is considerably higher in states that have lax gun safety regulations. We should be concerned about every gun death in gun obsessed America.
 

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Every yeat over 25,000 'poor souls' in America end their lives by suicide with a gun. That's a shocking number. The rate of suicide by gun is considerably higher in states that have lax gun safety regulations. We should be concerned about every gun death in gun obsessed America.
What about the wonderful country of non-gun-obsessed Canada, where the suicide rate is higher than in the USA! People who are intent on committing suicide will find a way to do it whether they have access to guns or not. There are almost no guns at all in the hands of civilians in Japan and yet it has and extremely high suicide rate.


Canada’s total suicide rate of 12.9 is similar to Australia (12.7), Norway (12.3), and the United States (11.5). Estonia (40) and Japan (17.9) are among the countries that have higher rates than Canada, while several other countries have rates below one per 100,000 population (United Nations, 1998: 112-113).
 
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Do you think thugs like these two pay any attention to "gun safety regulations" or any gun laws at all? I got news for you: they don't give a shit. The only was to stop them from killing is to put them in jail and keep them there.

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I don't know who these men are, but if they have been convicted of crimes and sentenced to jail they should be incarcerated. In every society there are criminals. That's why society has established law enforcement - police, prosecutors, judges, and a penal system - to deal with those who break our laws. America doesn't need an obscene proliferation of guns to deal with criminals, and the more guns that exist the more likely it is that those guns will end up in the hands of criminals.
 

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What's the root cause of Chicago's gun violence problem? GUNS
Wrong, the gun is a tool it takes a person to operate it and use it. The root cause of Chicago's gun problem is poverty and victimless crimes (created by the government with illegal drugs, illegal gambling, illegal prostitution). When the Volstead Act came into effect in the 1920s there was a sharp rise in crimes and the growth of organized crime like Al Capone, Lucky Luciano, Bugsy Siegal, John Dillinger to name a few. Making alcohol illegal gave a reason and tool for crimes to happen and there were bootlegging gangs everywhere. Where they started? In New York and Chicago with Chicago being the main place. Remove all victimless crimes and crimes and gun violence will sharply drop. Guns are just a result of socio-economic issue. But of course both Democrats and Republicans want to push their own version of prohibition, the Democrats want to ban gun and the Republicans got a war on drugs. I thought people would learn that prohibition never works, it just creates new problems like the Volstead Act did, final verdict was that it was a big failure.
 

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Chicago kicked out their old mayor, the awful Lori Lightfoot (don't worry about her though-she got a job at Harvard!). Then they elected an even worse guy-some idiot named Brandon Johnson.

He believes in a "holistic" approach to fighting crime. :rolleyes: .

The result? Over the Memorial Day weekend, thugs put bullet holes in 41 people, killing 11. The Canadian government needs to put out a special warning to its citizens. But this time, be more specific: STAY AWAY FROM LARGE AMERICAN CITIES RUN BY DEMOCRATS!


It was Memorial Day weekend as usual in Chicago, as its citizens celebrated by shooting at least 41 people, and killing 11. The country shrugged because, well, this is Chicago, and if the new mayor doesn’t care, why should anyone else?

The shootings occurred all over the city, including blocks from Mayor Brandon Johnson’s home in the Austin neighborhood. No fewer than five people were shot in the affluent Lake View neighborhood on the North Side. The local ABC affiliate ran an account of the shootings that reads like an old-fashioned crime blotter:

• “About 2:15 a.m. in Lake View, William Hair, 35, was found on a sidewalk with a gunshot wound to the chest in the 500 block of West Surf Street. He died at Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center.”
• “Later in the day, a man was shot to death in the 1100-block of North Ridgeway Avenue in the Humboldt Park neighborhood on the West Side. The shooting happened about 11:15 a.m., according to police.”

• “Less than an hour later, a woman was killed and three men wounded in a drive-by shooting in Auburn Gresham.”

And so on.

The shootings occurred even as the mayor visited neighborhoods with a plea to keep the city safe. He favors what he calls a “holistic” approach to fighting crime, which means funding community groups. “Poverty didn’t go away over the weekend,” Mr. Johnson said. “Communities have been disinvested in and traumatized” and “you are seeing the manifestation of that trauma.”

Yes, he actually said that, which goes a long way to explaining why gunmen patrol the streets with impunity. Does the mayor have a date when he thinks poverty will vanish, the “trauma” will ease, and the shootings stop? Is the July 4 weekend too soon, or will it be Labor Day?

His comments reflect the other-worldly nature of Chicago progressives, for whom Mr. Johnson is now the chief spokesman. He campaigned on hiring 200 new police detectives, but in the city’s current state he’ll need 2,000 and a revival of tough anti-crime policies to stop the carnage in the streets. Morale at the Chicago Police Department is flagging and there’s no permanent superintendent.

Then again, Chicagoans elected Mr. Johnson in April knowing all this. Crime was the biggest issue, and voters apparently opted for “holistic” crime fighting as opposed to actually fighting crime. How do you like it?