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    Montreal Hot Angels Unreliable

    I have been hobbying for several years and have used most agencies disscussed inthis board. By far the most unreliable one has to be Montreal Hot Angels (Formerly The Harem).

    This is my experience with this agency for afternoon appointments (haven't tried them at night)

    1) First time as The Harem (2 years ago) called up to see a girl called Camilla. Girl shows up on time and delivered a great service. No complaints.

    2) About a month latter set up an appointment to see Camilla for 3:00 PM. Called in when I booked the room and was told that the girl would be arriving in 15 minutes. An hour later still no Camilla, so I called Carlo. He tells me there is a lot of traffic but she should be there shortly. By 5:00 PM still no show, again I called Carlo and he tells me traffic is real bad but she should be there soon. I had to cancel since I had a previous engagement at 6:00 PM. I'm out 50 Bucks for the hotel and horny as hell.

    3) A couple of months later decided to give Carlo the benefit of the doubt, I know that crap happens, and called him up to book one of his ladies (Vanessa) for 2:00 PM. I reminded him of the problem I had previously and he told me to call him before booking the room. Upon reaching the hotel I called Carlo and he tells me to go ahead and book, the girl would be there in half an hour. An hour later and no Vanessa, so I called Carlo back. He tells me the driver has picked her up and she should be there soon. About half an hour later Carlo calls me to tell Vanessa was not feeling well and had gone home. He did not have another lady available to sent me and again I was out 50 Bucks. I promised myself that I would not call these guys again, too unreliable.

    4) Today I noticed that Tanya was available starting at 3:00 PM at MHA. After reading the good comments on this agency, I said what the hell. I called them up and booked Tanya for 3:30 PM. Around 3:15 I called in to give the room number and was told that Tanya would be arriving in 10 -15 minutes. At about 3:45 PM MHA calls to tell me that they have bad news, the driver was in an accident (girls were OK). Since they only had one driver they would not be able to get Tanya to the hotel and there was no other girl available. I could not believe it and told the fellow that I had paid for the room for nothing (I had not made a backup plan and did not have another agency phone number). Cost 50 Bucks for hotel and no service.

    I must be the unluckiest customer with The Harem/MHA agencies. Almost everytime I call something beyond their control happens. I suspect that they double booked and I was the poor sap that got the shaft. In short I threw away 150 bucks on this agency. So be aware if you use them in the afternoons.

    Anyone else had this type of problem with MHA?

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    Angry Mhtg

    Actually, I had several problems with MHA.
    Recently I've booked one of their ladies around midnight....at 0.30 they called me back to cancel. I was just like WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!

    The receptionnist apologized and offered me a 20 $ discount on the next call.

    RIDICULOUS
    Last edited by MarathonMan; 08-27-2007 at 02:12 AM.

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    If it wasn't for the service of the girls...

    I've experienced the same problem with the Harem/MHA. They've even cancelled on me, after waiting three hours for Lili.

    If it wasn't for the great service of some of the new girls, I don't think this agency would be worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarathonMan
    Actually, I had several problems with MHTG.
    MM, this thread is about montreal hot angels, not montreal hot girls.
    Similar names, different agencies...
    MG

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    Wink My Mistake

    Quote Originally Posted by MG_mtl
    MM, this thread is about montreal hot angels, not montreal hot girls.
    Similar names, different agencies...

    MHA and not MHTG...Sorry I've problems with acronyms.

    But the confusion is quite understable:

    Montrealhotgirls
    Montrealgirlsonfire
    Montrealhotangels

    Why do they have to name their agencies with so similar names!!!!!!!!

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    I had the same experience last week. I booked Charly at a specific time and the booker kept booking her all night completely ignoring the fact that I had booked a 2 hour time slot at a specific time. I called and was apologetic and kept getting the answer "in 30 minutes", "in 10 minutes" in "30 minutes" etc etc... up to the point I figured this is just a lie.

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    The thing is, getting burned once is more than enough. I don't know why you would make arrangements a second and third time. I tried to book Salma from the Harem last year. I got the standard "she is not answering her phone, we don't know where she is" reply about an hour after the agreed appointment time. After that, I never tried to book anyone with them again. There is no shortage of SPs and agencies in Montreal, so repeatedly calling the same one you had booking issues with makes no sense. Equally confusing is creating a thread like this. You will simply get flamed by an army of merbites who have had no bad experiences with Carlo, and the agency itself can simply have the thread deleted. This forum/community tends to be hostile when less established members have negative feedback.

    Ideally, once the agency operator knows the SP won't be there on time (by 'on time' I mean +15-30 minutes from agreed time), a courtesy phone call would be nice so I can make other arrangements. I don't really need to know the reason why she can't make it, any bogus excuse is fine. It's not rocket science.
    Last edited by rollingstone; 08-29-2007 at 08:47 PM.

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    A courtesy phone call is made to upsell or cross sell!!!!! For no other reason since nobody gives a damn.

    Chances are she was booked for longer hours or higher rates than you booked her for so why would they bother being nice to you?

    If they make more $ elsewhere then you aren't that important.

    Notice how the web site says 360 for 2 hours and the regulars like us pay $300? Well, what you think? You guys wrote reviews to beef them up and now the lurkers are paying more because they don't know so they send the girls to the lurkers who pay more and ignore us!!! Ocassioanly they bring on a new girl and sell her cheap to write reviews and then when all is ok with the girl they upsell her to the other higher rate to other guys who call in and pay whatever rate they tell them to pay !

    The other thing I want to mention is that they pay the girls shit. Like $70/h. They are looking for naive girls who don't know the business or the internet. They are good in that finding some hotties and great GFEs who are totaly naive.

    I hope the girls pick up on that and the fact that other agencies pay as much as $110/h and move on elswhere like xxxtase, eleganza, devilish, montreal cin secrets city this and that.
    Last edited by Audigy; 08-29-2007 at 10:29 PM.

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    Carlo
    Mike & Carlos

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    Question One MHA experience good

    I had a recent appt with Charlie of Mtl Hot Angels that I reviewed in a separate thread earlier today. Initially I asked for 1 hour then was delayed so called back with a new time and also asked for two hours. They were able to give me two hours at a new time and Charlie arrived punctually. It was my first time with them and I was surprised to pay $300 but they did know that I was familiar with Merb, so maybe that gave me some unknown bargaining power.

    This was around midnight so I can't comment on the afternoon issue and I'm sorry that AlbertBraz had either a string of bad luck or maybe MHA has something against him. Probably just bad luck.

    I agree courtesy phone call really important if there is a delay and also some compensation for a cancellation. It's just the professional thing to do even if the only motive is reputation.

    If MHA wants to keep Charlie or any other good business partner/employee they will have to pay her well or lose her to another agency. I'm sure they know this so I'd be surprised if they don't pay the going rate to their Sp's.

    I'm not sure why I write this - to defend the agency? Maybe. Or just to participate with information. Anyway I only have one experience to use as evidence but it was a good one so there you have it.
    Last edited by eemajin; 09-02-2007 at 10:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eemajin
    I had a recent appt with Charlie of Mtl Hot Angels that I reviewed in a separate thread earlier today. Initially I asked for 1 hour then was delayed so called back with a new time and also asked for two hours. They were able to give me two hours at a new time and Charlie arrived punctually. It was my first time with them and I was surprised to pay $300 but they did know that I was familiar with Merb, so maybe that gave me some unknown bargaining power.

    This was around midnight so I can't comment on the afternoon issue and I'm sorry that AlbertBraz had either a string of bad luck or maybe MHA has something against him. Probably just bad luck.

    I agree courtesy phone call really important if there is a delay and also some compensation for a cancellation. It's just the professional thing to do even if the only motive is reputation.

    If MHA wants to keep Charlie or any other good business partner/employee they will have to pay her well or lose her to another agency. I'm sure they know this so I'd be surprised if they don't pay the going rate to their Sp's.

    I'm not sure why I write this - to defend the agency? Maybe. Or just to participate with information. Anyway I only have one experience to use as evidence but it was a good one so there you have it.
    Thank you sir,

    i am not familiar with talking about SP's salary on Merb however just to let you know that our SP's get payed a bit more than the avg salary on the market and that we have a policy of no wait in the cars and after each call if the ladies are not booked we drive them home no matter how far they stay. I am not going to mention all the other great treatements they get from our staff. I admited that we had few delays and cacellations the past days however we consider our selves a very reliable and respectuful Agency and i exactelly know how many clients (3 or 4) have seen their session being canceled (this is very commun in this hobby by the way) and for those 3 or 4 unhappy clients i ve already proposed to pay the fees of the motel room back. I think there is nothing much I can do we are not delevering Flowers. Pizzas or news paper the Sp's are human they can cancel on us for any normal or not normal reason (from being sick, to a last minute plan, to the i lost my cell phone to the My BF is aware and i can not go out to many other exuses we hear all day long...). I would love to have a thread here to tell you how many times a client booked a girl early to never show up or to cancel on us 1 minutes before the RDV (we lose calls and money) but we accept that because it is part of this hobby we are dealing with humans and we are all free to come to work or not we are all free to cancel on an sp RDV in the last minute.

    So I think this story has to come to an end because i ve already appologized many times and proposed to pay back the motel fees.
    Cheers
    Last edited by montrealhotangels; 09-06-2007 at 02:39 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montrealhotangels
    I would love to have a thread here to tell you how many times a client booked a girl early to never show up or to cancel on us 1 minutes before the RDV (we lose calls and money) but we accept that because it is part of this hobby we are dealing with humans and we are all free to come to work or not we are all free to cancel on an sp RDV in the last minute.
    Carlo,

    In an ideal world all appointments take place as scheduled and there are no late arrivals, no-shows, or cancellations, but we all know that is not realty and we have to deal with cancellations both as agency operators and clients. I can accept the fact that occassionally an agency has to cancel an appointment (it does not really matter what the real reasons are) and let me know as soon as possible, but definitely no later than 15 to 30 minutes BEFORE the appointment, since by then a competent agency operator should know if the girl is going to make it or not. Being told an hour or more AFTER the original appointment time that the girl is not going to show up is not acceptable.

    I believe you when you said that you have to deal with last minute cancellations from customers, but that is no excuse for you to cancel an appointment one hour or two or more AFTER the original appointment time! The customers who make last minute cancellations are not the customers any good agencies would want to have anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex Kramer
    Carlo,

    In an ideal world all appointments take place as scheduled and there are no late arrivals, no-shows, or cancellations, but we all know that is not realty and we have to deal with cancellations both as agency operators and clients. I can accept the fact that occassionally an agency has to cancel an appointment (it does not really matter what the real reasons are) and let me know as soon as possible, but definitely no later than 15 to 30 minutes BEFORE the appointment, since by then a competent agency operator should know if the girl is going to make it or not. Being told an hour or more AFTER the original appointment time that the girl is not going to show up is not acceptable.

    I believe you when you said that you have to deal with last minute cancellations from customers, but that is no excuse for you to cancel an appointment one hour or two or more AFTER the original appointment time! The customers who make last minute cancellations are not the customers any good agencies would want to have anyway.
    What you are saying is right and i do not remeber my self canceling on a client 2 hours or 1 hour after the RDV!!! however it happend once or twice that the girl show up very late to work let say she is suppose to start @ 4pm and she is bokked @ 4:30 and she shows up @ 5:00 or 5:30 and she keeps calling saying i ll be there in 5!!! (belive this happens alot) so sometime we try to inform the client about what s going on. This could create a lot of frustration for somepone who is excpecting to get service at a certain time and it also create lots of frustrations to us however unfortunatelly this kind of situations are exceptions and as we say in good french l'exception ne fait pas la regle.

    Cheers
    Mike & Carlos

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    montrealhotangels@hotmail.com

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    Let me just say that I was very happy with the service from this agency, so much so I sent them a gift to show my appreciation. It can be difficult but these guys respect the client, and apparently the ladies as well.

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