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And a lot of men who heard the news and are on here will still book.
Was this a zero risk business proposition before these news stories? If you choose to be a client you accept some risk. And always did. For the 20 years I was actively involved I was keenly aware of risks I was taking. I sought to minimize the risks by doing common sense things like using burner phones, not making a lot of noise, doing business with reputable providers or agencies, and in the case of doorman buildings I stayed at, behaving very discreetly.

Nothing has changed. There have been a few news stories. No clients have been charged. There is nothing from which we can conclude that the risk is higher now than it ever was before. Nothing.
 

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Nothing has changed. There have been a few news stories. No clients have been charged. There is nothing from which we can conclude that the risk is higher now than it ever was before. Nothing.
Well statistically speaking, I would say that it's a reset and the probability and odds are new now! :p
 

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Well statistically speaking, I would say that it's a reset and the probability and odds are new now! :p
Statistics need to be based on data which is available as evidence. There is no new evidence of any client arrests. There is no basis for new probabilities or odds. It's the same as it always was. There is risk. As David Byrne once sang, "Same as it ever was." If you listen to more Talking Heads music you will come closer to being in tune with reality:
 

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I’m surprised that the agency SPs are getting booked with regularity after this news came out.

Are you guys using burner phones or fake numbers? Loool! More power to you if you’re not worried.

I will avoid booking for now, especially with agencies. Waiting for the dust to settle and will decide later.

you would be surprised how many people don't follow news at all
 

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17 is crazy. I was learning how not to cut myself while shaving at that age. JFC.
Has the Colonel said in the crack down reccored by the journalist, with women democratisation on all type of activities, sports, rights, income, professions, certain types of criminel activites are getting mainstream aswell and the barrier of genders are falling down. In these particular times, crime dont see gender. Hell, I can see how women pimpin women can feel safer for other women in pracarious situations.
 

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I think one should do everything to avoid underage and coercion. This means checking as much as possible but also sadly trusting the agencies/indies one chooses to see…

Still I don’t think it is time to stop all activities altogether. Consensual, honest situations can’t be at the top of the list for police.

Has anyone noticed agency providers seem less “fully booked” than before?
 

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I am in my 60s, but have health issues now that have wrecked me. The biggest one being high blood pressure and pills that seriously, seriously seriously limpen the penis to say the very least. I would like to get off them but that will probably never happen.

Why do I participate here? Sad to say, but boredom, and amusement on something I once was a part of.
Did you ask your doctor to prescribe you different blood pressure medication? Old school beta blockers and diuretics are notorious to cause ED. I take calcium channel blockers and it has no effect on me for ED at all. ARB and ACE actually improve ED and so do alpha blockers.

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I think one should do everything to avoid underage and coercion. This means checking as much as possible but also sadly trusting the agencies/indies one chooses to see…

Still I don’t think it is time to stop all activities altogether. Consensual, honest situations can’t be at the top of the list for police.

Has anyone noticed agency providers seem less “fully booked” than before?
I am more worried about having the wool pulled over my eyes, so to speak, at traditional AMP, in terms of the age and coercion aspect, than I am at the agencies.

I did use one of the more popular agencies recently, and I noticed this.

The texting between the client and the booker is minimal at best, like the cold shoulder you would get from an uninterested woman in public when approached. There was no reminder of the cost for the hour, as was always previously done. So no talk of money. There was also no response after the session when I thanked the booker. There was a long delay between my original text of about an hour, until I received a reply from the booker.

I will reevaluate based on that experience whether I wish to move forward with agencies, as I believe it sheds light on the booker/agency end and puts up my guard.

Very good question, Flabert.
 

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Once, there was a petite sp who told me she has some pedophil clients and she rather them come see her than abusing children. It did shocked me as well even I understood her logic. I wonder if she saw me as another pedophile. It did enough damage I’m staying away from spinners

From what I understood, there was an underage sp working at xo at some point. I don’t think law enforcement would go after every clients but a slim chance they will be going after clients who booked her.
Years ago i met this popular sp from a high end agency (anyone remember Montreal Girlfriends?) and while getting to know her on our first date (there were many that week!) she mentioned to me that one of the main reasons (other than money) that she chose to escort was that she saw the profession as a form of personal contribution to society. She said that she figured doing this type of work possibly prevented potential rapists from raping women. I told her I disagreed with her reasoning & she replied whatever this was one of the reasons she used to justify what she was doing: keeping rapists off the street. I tried explaining to her that rape & sex are often two entirely different things but she either wasn’t buying my excuse or didn’t want to. Omg this young lady could talk! I ended up seeing her for three hours on that first date mostly because i couldn’t get her to shut up! Lol. She worked in a shoe store & proceeded to talk about shoes for like ten minutes! She also worked as a beautician and talked & talked about skin care & other stuff that didn’t really interest me. I WANTED TO GET LAID! Lol. Anyways i totally fell for this young lady & probably saw her 4 times in 6 days! And i returned to Mtl two weeks later just to see her again! Lol. I was so gullible back then!
 

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Years ago i met this popular sp from a high end agency (anyone remember Montreal Girlfriends?) and while getting to know her on our first date (there were many that week!) she mentioned to me that one of the main reasons (other than money) that she chose to escort was that she saw the profession as a form of personal contribution to society. She said that she figured doing this type of work possibly prevented potential rapists from raping women. I told her I disagreed with her reasoning & she replied whatever this was one of the reasons she used to justify what she was doing: keeping rapists off the street. I tried explaining to her that rape & sex are often two entirely different things but she either wasn’t buying my excuse or didn’t want to. Omg this young lady could talk! I ended up seeing her for three hours on that first date mostly because i couldn’t get her to shut up! Lol. She worked in a shoe store & proceeded to talk about shoes for like ten minutes! She also worked as a beautician and talked & talked about skin care & other stuff that didn’t really interest me. I WANTED TO GET LAID! Lol. Anyways i totally fell for this young lady & probably saw her 4 times in 6 days! And i returned to Mtl two weeks later just to see her again! Lol. I was so gullible back then!
This might be the biggest pack of bull ive read today lmfaooooo. What this girl was doing with you is called "copium". Whatever excuse she could tell herself to be an SP and not being accountable for her choice she would Found... Furthermore, by saying what she said, she insinuating that guy Who sees SP might have rapist Tendencies witch is bull. You have rapist on every type of man profile.

I, in my case, get turn on and enjoy myself more when the women enjoys herself aswell. Il beleive that rapist are often selfish and only care about their pleasure.
 

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This might be the biggest pack of bull ive read today lmfaooooo. What this girl was doing with you is called "copium". Whatever excuse she could tell herself to be an SP and not being accountable for her choice she would Found... Furthermore, by saying what she said, she insinuating that guy Who sees SP might have rapist Tendencies witch is bull. You have rapist on every type of man profile.

I, in my case, get turn on and enjoy myself more when the women enjoys herself aswell. Il beleive that rapist are often selfish and only care about their pleasure.
At the time I wasn’t totally sure what to make of it. I hadn’t been in the hobby for very long & her justification for working as an escort started to make me wonder what kind of people these girls were seeing! Later she told me a story about a client she had seen the previous day who made her wear a dog collar & a mask & would order to bark like a dog! She said that he had even had a bowl filled with dog food & wanted her to eat which she refused to do. But she said she did agree to pretend to eat from it. I WAS TOTALLY DISGUSTED! Like i said i was fairly new to this & wasn’t ready to hear these type of stories especially from such a young, sweet friendly girl! But she seemed to take it all in stride & actually joked about it. But she also seemed very naive. Weeks or months later one of her colleagues asked me who else i had seen from the agency & when i mentioned the young lady in question she replied “Omg that girl is so dumb! And she’s not even hot! I know be ause i’ve done threesomes with her & there’s nothing about her that turns me on! And you say you saw her like 5 or 6 times already? Wtf Doc?” I replied “Well you have to admit that she has a fantastic ass!” She replied “Okay, i’ll admit that she has a great looking ass but still…she’s as dumb as a rock! Sorry, but it’s true!” Then i remembered the other girl telling me one of her justifications to escort (about keeping rapists off the street) and agreed that maybe she had a point. By the way at the time i thought maybe that’s what the agency girl who recruited her might have told her. “Become an escort & keep rapists off the street! Save other women!” Lol.

p.s. One of the reasons i rarely mentioned to the ladies who else i saw from their agency is that more often than not they’d usually trash-talk their colleagues (she smells, she’s on drugs, she’s a weirdo, etc). Things i don’t really wanna hear. Occasionally it’d be “Oh, she’s my best friend!” or “Next you should see my friend ____. You’d like her. We can also have a threesome together if you’d like.” But more often than not it’s negative. Jealousy probably had as much to do with their comments. Girls often hate when other girls are more popular than they are. Especially when it’s girls they don’t really like already! Lol.
 
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This shit might make me give up on agencies Man....When you think about it, sometimes, this shit felt to good to be true. You could see SPs on XO or forever, some at Sensation that would ask double the Price easly as independant...
 

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The truth is if the police wanted to bust all the agencies in Montreal they could had done so a long time ago. They deliberately CHOSE to let them run business. Maybe because to them its easier to keep an eye on it that way and its safer for the women. The question is "will this situation with XO make them change their stance on this?".

Its 2 different domains but i can draw a parrallel, it remind me a bit of illegal downloading. Everytime a website is busted another open up. They may go after the owner of said site (but never after the users) and a new one will take its place. So lets say they would shut down every major agencies who operate "in the public eye". It wouldn't stop prostitution ... we know this. I think it would become even more dangerous for the women who do not want(or can't) go indy and work in agencies. So these agencies are a bit of a compromise with LE. As long as they don't make waves they are not bothered. But XO crossed that line in multiple ways it seem.

I know its easy for me to say this because i already had decided to stay away from Montreal for a little while, but personally i think the smarter move at this moment would be to refrain from booking incalls. Im not saying outcalls is full proof, but it seem safer to me. You are in your hotel room, the only person that goes in your room is the escort herself. Police COULD send an undercover cop that way probably, but that is much more complicated than operating an incall sting. If the incalls of agencies are under surveillance, its much easier for them to do anything. They won't post officers are every hotels in Montreal ...
 

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personally i think the smarter move at this moment would be to refrain from booking incalls. Im not saying outcalls is full proof, but it seem safer to me. You are in your hotel room, the only person that goes in your room is the escort herself. Police COULD send an undercover cop that way probably, but that is much more complicated than operating an incall sting. If the incalls of agencies are under surveillance, its much easier for them to do anything. They won't post officers are every hotels in Montreal ...
It's always been safer to book outcall! Not many of you, even the locals posting here, remember that in the 2000s predominately Montreal agencies were running outcalls. The only one I remember runnnig an incall was called "Le Filles de Mr. Jacques", also known as LFMJ. It was only in the 2010s that the incall agencies rose up: Good Girls, Euphoria, XO and a slew of copycats. They all figured out they could make more money with incalls. However I guess the outcall model and learning from the discretion of their historical precessors now is looking good, all of a sudden?

Are we completely forgetting the history of the business here?
 
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