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Halloween Mike

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It's always been safer to book outcall! Not many of you, even the locals posting here, remember that in the 2000s predominately Montreal agencies were running outcalls.

Are we completely forgetting the history of the business here?
Indeed. When i started, there was very few agencies doing incalls. I don't remember "Les filles de Mr Jacques", must have been before my time. But every agencies of the time exept one was outcall only. Devilish/Girls on Fire, MontrealXXXtase (now XXXclusive), Asservissantes, Satin Dreamz, Mtl Sex City, Woman of Passion and then a few more popped out after. Only Nadya VIP was mainly an incall agency that i recall of. Its Goodgirls who changed the model offering incalls. I think the idea was that incall could be seen as a "bordelo" and was more illegal, at least before C-36 or whatever that was call, Outcall was considered almost entirely safe as long as you didn't made "waves" and remain discreet. Even most hotels never cared.

As i said many times i understand the attraction to the incall model on both client and agency pov (clients save money on room, agency book way more calls) but maybe this "appat du gain" is partly responsible for the current situation. I understand even for escorts, incalls may be better (safer as they are in their environement, no getting out in the hot summer or cold winter times, more money since more calls, no waiting in the car etc) but im sure it may take its toll as well to have to do clients "back to back" with only a 15 min break in between... Outcalls kinda feel "more ethical" to me ... But hey maybe its just my POV.
 

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I don't remember "Les filles de Mr Jacques", must have been before my time.
It was an agency that was catering completely to French locals. They had one of the biggest rosters I have ever seen in Montreal. Their website was totally in French and they were at the time (2002-2005) maybe $140/hour. I never bothered with them as I assumed from their website they would have no English speaking bookers or escorts. They didn't even try to get the tourists at that time, they knew the outcall agencies had them. They focused on French locals and the French locals I spoke to at the time told me they were not for me.
 

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It was an agency that was catering completely to French locals. They had one of the biggest rosters I have ever seen in Montreal. Their website was totally in French and they were at the time (2002-2005) maybe $140/hour. I never bothered with them as I assumed from their website they would have no English speaking bookers or escorts. They didn't even try to get the tourists at that time, they knew the outcall agencies had them. They focused on French locals and the French locals I spoke to at the time told me they were not for me.
I always love your historical view, EB. And I don’t even know if the Eleganza issues back in the day resulted in the type of hysteria with booking agencies we’re seeing on Merb now, right?
 
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I always love your historical view, EB. And I don’t even know if the Eleganza issues back in the day resulted in the type of hysteria with booking agencies we’re seeing on Merb now, right?
I don't believe the Eleganza arrest got too much media scrutiny. It did have a thread on MERB, but it came to light MUCH later. I think Joe was running Eleganza while John was in jail so the agency was not actually shut down by LE. It continued for a while after the arrest- maybe months or even a year. At the time, it didn't cause too much of a ripple of concern because John apparently was recruiting some girl who was a minor, her parents found the messages or emails and went to the police. It was never clear if John knew the girl was a minor. This is what my memory is of what occurred - I could be wrong.
 
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The truth is if the police wanted to bust all the agencies in Montreal they could had done so a long time ago. They deliberately CHOSE to let them run business. Maybe because to them its easier to keep an eye on it that way and its safer for the women. The question is "will this situation with XO make them change their stance on this?".
Think you hit the nail in the right spot.
As you mentioned; it is not gonna stop.
If they do, the business will go underground, we know this and so does LE.

Stick with the ''devil'' you know.

Unless it is a political agenda. Then, who knows. Time will tell.
 

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It's always been safer to book outcall! Not many of you, even the locals posting here, remember that in the 2000s predominately Montreal agencies were running outcalls. The only one I remember runnnig an incall was called "Le Filles de Mr. Jacques", also known as LFMJ. It was only in the 2010s that the incall agencies rose up: Good Girls, Euphoria, XO and a slew of copycats. They all figured out they could make more money with incalls. However I guess the outcall model and learning from the discretion of their historical precessors now is looking good, all of a sudden?

Are we completely forgetting the history of the business here?
by my memory Les FIlles de Mr Jacques was outcall. Used them a few times but I had to rent a room on Saint Jacques Street.
Notable early incall agencies: Private Lies, ABC Softies, ZZ Cream, Plaisirs rebels, Econolodge, and a couple others. I had tried them all.
The first incall agency I ever tried was Private Lies (98-99) I called from a phone booth. I was so nervous I asked the receptionnist about the legality of incalls, to which she did not know what to answer. I had done my research, Outcall was 100% legal, Incall 100% illegal.
I went anyways and saw a girl at the Lord Berri downtown. It was the beginning of a long journey.
 
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This shit might make me give up on agencies Man....When you think about it, sometimes, this shit felt to good to be true. You could see SPs on XO or forever, some at Sensation that would ask double the Price easly as independant...
You’re giving up on agencies because the girl is charging half the price of an independent? Interesting.
 

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That is why I always used agencies.

Contrary to some people here, I will continue to do so.

We live only once, damn it!
Same here not to mention the simplicity in booking. No government ID, no deposit, no LinkedIN, no need to write emails in a way they want you to write to please them, just a simple text and you are off to go. If I stop using agencies, I will surely not use Indys that is for sure.
 

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There is no reason not to use outcall agency bookings.

Plenty of reasons. You have to book a hotel - thus very often nullifying the price advantage to using agencies.
Maybe you don't want SP's coming to your home? Maybe some people have kids or a spouse, etc...

All reasons why people use incall. in and out. Clean and quick.
 

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There is no reason not to use outcall agency bookings.
Doing outcalls make very perfect sense looking at a safety perspective. Especially if you are a traveler coming to Montreal. Also saves times where she comes to you.

Incalls are good too but ONLY if the girl is doing it at a HOTEL and not some apartment/condo owned by the agency/pimp. Doing the apartment/condo is just open target sitting duck move. Would only do this approach if I am a local. When the HDH market was in full swing and Montreal was visiting the major U.S. cities that was the way to go.
 
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