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Merlot,

A-Rod was not acquired or re-signed during the Girardi/consortium era of Yankees leadership (this also includes Newman and Cashman and Hal) and I was specifically talking about the Girardi/consortium era of leadership of the Yankees which started more recently. So it is you that have no idea what you are talking about.

Beav,

I and others understand what you write. But when we on this board read anyone's post we're not bound to restrict ourselves to the border parameters of the person we are responding to. It's not disrespect, it's just everyone's right to extend upon what was written simply because the responder might wish to.

I responded to the idea of "high character" and "high work ethic" in general about the Yankees and their history. It's a fact that they have more known roid/whatever rules breakers. But even if you want to limit this to Girardi, who I believe is a man of very high integrity, a pitcher on his watch who he was responsible for was recorded twice using illegal gobs of pine tar. Girardi may not have known Pineda was going out there the first time like that, but someone failed to make rules clear to that pitcher, and it's clear a breakdown in ETHICS and CHARACTER happened twice on Girardi's team just on that one issue.

Overall I think people outside New York respect Girardi a lot. But let's not pretend there's a character and ethics nirvana going on in New York.

Regarding Cano, we all have to admit what place "character" and "work ethic" get when any team considers a great producer like Cano. If we dig deeper we all had a good idea about who A-Rod was before he joined the Yankees. Cano was the heir apparent to Jeter. The Yankees were absolutely not willing to lose him if at all avoidable...regardless of alleged lack of work ethic.

REVENGE OF THE RED SOX:

Let's see, Ortiz homers off of Price twice in the playoffs last year. Some sort of peaceful agreement was reached between Price and Ortiz, according to the latter, then Price plunks him deliberately on his first pitch of the year to Ortiz. Even if what Ortiz said about an apology being offered by Price is bull, the facts remain Price took a deliberate shot at him the first time he sees him after being homered on twice, the umpire warns him and both benches, then Price plunks Carp and still does not get tossed. Only Sox managers are kicked out, until Workman takes a tit for tat shot and he gets tossed. Ironically, the Red Sox come back and win anyway. Maybe God was telling the umpire...don't be such a dorkuss next time. :D

ORTIZ DECLARES WAR:

Is this what Price and the Rays really want? Maybe it's the only way to get people to the games in Tampa. :crazy:

http://mlb.si.com/2014/05/31/red-sox-rays-david-ortiz-david-price-ejections/

After the game, according to MassLive.com’s Jason Mastrodonato, Ortiz called out Price for holding a grudge after the two had allegedly buried the hatchet following last year’s incident:

“I have a lot of respect for the guy, man, but it’s over,” Ortiz told reporters. “I have no more respect for him. Last year we kick his ass in the playoffs, he went off, talking (expletive) about everybody, (Sports Illustrated writer) Tom Verducci and everybody. Players.

“We kind of got to talk on the phone. We kind of straightened things out. He was kind of upset. Me as a veteran I kind of let him know how things go in this game. Later on he called me and apologized because he knows he was wrong. He apologized in public. He apologized to myself. Everything was cool. So first at-bat of the season against him he threw at me.

“I mean, it’s a war. It’s on. Next time he hits me, he better bring the gloves. I have no respect for him no more.”

Ortiz wasn’t finished, getting personal with his comments on Price later in his postgame debriefing.


“You can’t be acting like a little girl out there. You aren’t going to win every time. When you give it up, that’s an experience for the next time. But when you’re to be acting like a little (expletive) every time you give it up, bounce back like that and put your teammates in jeopardy, that’s going to cost you.

“I was going to let him know. I respect everybody in this league and I get the same respect from everybody. If you’re mad because I take you deep twice, let me let you know, I have almost 500 homers in this league. It’s part of the game, son.”

These are two teams headed in different directions. The Red Sox have now won five in a row — including two straight walk-off wins — and enter Saturday within six games of the first-place Toronto Blue Jays. The Rays have lost four straight and are now 8.5 games back.

This is becoming one of the most entertaining rivalries in the game, and it did not disappoint on Friday. The Red Sox are surging. The Rays are sinking. The second game of the series is Saturday night, with Tampa’s Jake Odorizzi facing Rubby De La Rosa. Yeah, it’s going to be an interesting weekend in Boston.


Ahhhhhhhhhh what great publicity,

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Betances

He struck out 6 Mets in a row a couple weeks ago and another awesome outing today by Betances, striking out the side in the 6th on 10 pitches, and 5 of the 6 batters he faced. The lone batter making contact grounded out weakly. Betances reached 98 mph and looked filthy and totally dominant. Girardi is using him in the 6th and 7th, Warren in the 8th and Robertson in the 9th and it will be interesting to see what happens when Shawn Kelley comes back. Down the road I can envision Betances being used in the 7th/8th and Robertson the 9th, a la Rivera and Wetteland in 1996, effectively turning the games into 6 inning games.

It is amazing to me how Betances has developed later than expected, but as well as expected. Could he be a starter down the road? That is a decision for spring training next year, if he continues to pitch like this. I am amazed at what I am seeing from him. He has electric stuff and throws really hard.
 

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After today, I think maybe Betances should be the closer and move Robertson back to the set up role where there is less pressure.
 

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What...the...FUCK...all,

Brandon Workman Suspended Six Games For Throwing At Evan Longoria

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story...an-suspended-six-games-throwing-evan-longoria

The Boston Red Sox got the worst of the in-game discipline from their Friday night game against the Tampa Bay Rays, and they learned Tuesday there will also be supplemental discipline.

Major League Baseball announced Boston pitcher Brandon Workman has been suspended for six games. The league claims that Workman’s six-game ban is because Workman was “intentionally throwing a pitch in the head area” of Tampa Bay third baseman Evan Longoria. Workman was also fined an undisclosed amount for his actions.

Workman was ejected after throwing behind Evan Longoria during the sixth inning of the Red Sox’s eventual win over the Rays. That came after Tampa Bay starter David Price hit David Ortiz in the first inning and Mike Carp in the fourth inning. Price was not disciplined Tuesday.

Workman told reporters Tuesday in Cleveland that he will appeal the suspension. He’s scheduled to start Wednesday in Cleveland against the Indians, and he can still make that start now that he’s appealing the ban.


Okay, Price throws deliberately at Ortiz. No question it was on purpose. Ortiz takes his base without argument. After a firm warning to the pitcher and everyone, three innings later Price throws a fastball (verified) at high around Mike Carp's neck hitting him. The only reason Carp doesn't get hit in the face or head is he was quick enough to block the ball with his arms and hands. Multiple Red Sox coaches get tossed, but not Price despite the umpire's warning. After all that Workman throws behind a players head, did not hit him. Workman gets tossed along with another coach. No one with Tampa gets any punishment despite both benches emptying. Already, YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING.

Today, though 4 Sox coaches and a player were tossed out of the game in question the MLB front office felt it wasn't enough. The pitcher who didn't hit anyone gets hit with a 6-game suspension, now pending appeal. My only question is what brand are those jackasses in the office smoking, drinking, snorting, or shooting. They are out of their freaking HIGH minds.

BTW Beav, regarding your comment: "A-Rod was not acquired or re-signed during the Girardi/consortium era of Yankees leadership (this also includes Newman and Cashman and Hal)".A-Rod was acquired by Cashman and, when he opted out of his contract, was re-signed by Hal Steinbrenner.

As for the upcoming games, it's a key weekend for the Sox. If Workman (who can still play until the appeal is heard) and de la Rosa step in, the Sox can get right back in it. Bogaerts is proving to be all he was promised to be. If Napoli can come back healthy after two week, things will look up. The Yanks have played some poor teams this year, like Houston, Cleveland, and the Cubs. The Sox have yet to see those teams but will in the next few weeks. Take a look at run differential. The only reason the Sox trail the Yanks by more than one game is luck. Toronto, however, is another story. They may be tough to catch.

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The Jays once again beat Detroit last night & are still holding a 4.5 game lead over the Baltimore Orioles. Both the Yankees & Red Sox lost again and are trailing the Jays by 6 & 8.5 games respectively. Both the Yankees & the Red Sox are no longer hitting, even though the pitching hasn't been that bad. But when you have difficulty scoring runs, you can't expect to win many games.

As for the Jays, they're among baseball's top hitting teams & the pitching has been extremely good.

But for the record, i expect their winning streak to come to an end this afternoon against Justin Verlander, whom i consider to be the best pitcher in baseball. The Jays are countering with J.A. Happ, who's been surprisingly good this season. But beating the superior Verlander is quite a tall order!

As for the Tampa Rays, they continue to baffle me. They've been among the league's worst teams & have now lost Will Myers to a serious injury. This is a team in dissaray & all the top players they've lost over the past few years are finally catching up to them. I don't think they'll end up finishing last & i expect them to be carried by their pitching in the coming months, but i've been saying this for the past few weeks & they've continued to struggle.

As for the Orioles, what can i say? They've certainly been impressive. However, i expect them to start fading in a month's time.
 

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Right now looks like Masahiro Tanaka will be starting the All Star game for the AL. He is 9-1 and leads the AL with a 2.02 ERA, and has pitched at least 6 innings and allowed 3 or less runs in all 13 of his starts.

Next up for All Star consideration after Tanaka starts the game are Mark Buehrle and Yu Darvish. Your AL All Star Closer will be Greg Holland.
 

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Right now looks like Masahiro Tanaka will be starting the All Star game for the AL. He is 9-1 and leads the AL with a 2.02 ERA, and has pitched at least 6 innings and allowed 3 or less runs in all 13 of his starts.

Next up for All Star consideration after Tanaka starts the game are Mark Buehrle and Yu Darvish. Your AL All Star Closer will be Greg Holland.

I'm picking Mark Buehrle to start, even though Tanaka & Darvish deserve consideration. Reason i'm picking Buehrle is because of his domination of AL hitters from day 1 and he leads the league in wins. He's also one of the main reasons why the Jays are in first place & is among the league leaders in E.R.A. Tanaka & Darvish are pitching for middle-of-the-pack teams who barely play for .500 and whose chances of making the postseason are slim, so that's why i'm giving Buehrle the edge.

As for the closer role, i'm going with the Jays' Casey Jansen. He missed the first month or so of the season & has been phenomenal since his arrival & a huge reason why the Jays are currently in first place by a comfortable margin. Before Jansen's arrival, their bullpen was in dissaray. Holland, on the other hand, is pitching for a team that can't even play for .500. Jansen's numbers will continue to climb as the season goes on & it wouldn't surprise me if he leads the league in saves by the time the all-star game comes around.

As for the Red Sox, i'm not entirely surprised at what's become of them. I never considered John Farrell to be much of a manager (even when he was with the Toronto Blue Jays) and told everyone who wanted to hear that last season's success was a fluke. Could they be the only team to ever go from last-to-first-to last?? Don't bet against it. Sure, Tampa is currently in last place. But they're only 4 games behind the Red Sox & i expect them to get better mostly because of their pitching. On a side note, i wish a quick recovery to Red Sox coach Greg Colbrunn, a former Expo. He's currently in a Cleveland hospital after suffering a brain hemmorhage.

And finally, if Tampa doesn't get out of its current funk, it could be disastrous to the city of Tampa & its baseball fans. Attendance has never been very good for the Rays even at the best of times, and their attendance numbers are dropping by the minute. Could we see another situation similar to the Montreal Expos of the late 90's/early 2000's when the league eventually took over controls & put the team up for sale? If the Rays do get relocated (which i expect to happen) in the not-too-distant future, where will they wind up?
 

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I would like to know who will be representing the Bosdone RedSux LOL, it definitely looks like that another LOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGGG losing streak is in the works.:nod:
That's an interesting question. Pedroia & Oritz are struggling this season. Maybe the kid Bogarts, who's currently hitting just below .300. He's been the team's most consistent hitter this season, although he has not been great. Pitching-wise, Lester & Lackie are having decent seasons, but far from great or even close to their personal best seasons. I suppose if i had to chose a pitcher, i'd go with their closer Koji Uehara, who's done the job every time he's been asked to.

If i'd be the one selecting the team, i'd probably pick only one Red Sox: Koji Uehara. But as i mentionned, Bogarts might get consideration in order to calm the masses.

On a final note, what are they waiting for to send the awful Jackie Bradley Jr. to the minors? That it's too late & they've ruined him?? This kid in my opinion has tremendous potential & they're not doing him a favor by keeping him up with one of the worst teams in baseball going nowhere, considering his tremendous struggles at the plate.

By sending him down, maybe the Red Sox could be interested in trading for Toronto centerfielder Colby Rasmus, who's rumoured to be on the trading block. It wouldn't take too much to get him since he's on the last year of his current contract & the Jays won't likely re-sign him due to a surplus of young outfielders (Anthony Gose & Kevin Pillar) in the organization.
 

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The Red Sox have really sucked donkey balls. The Yankees have sucked mildly based on what I exoected after I saw how their starting rotation lines up after spring training. I thought Tampa Bay could actually be the team to beat but after Moore and Cobb went down they sort of collapsed and now they are 14 games out!!!!! Who would have believed it. The Blue Jays look solid but I don't think Buehrle will go 10-1 in his next 14 starts and certainly we know Encarnacion will cool off.
 

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The bottom line is the Red Sux stink to high heaven, I can only imagine what this is doing to my delusional buddy Mr Forskin, but knowing him he probably thinks that this terrible, fluke(2013) of team is still good.:nono:
 

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BOYZZZ!

Is it just me or does anybody else find it really cool in here without all of that hot air that is always being blown in from all those delusional Red Sux fans,...

Yeah, there's barely enough room here with Fleet-of-Hot-Air-Balloons-Joe.t here.

The Yankees have sucked mildly based on what I exoected after I saw how their starting rotation lines up after spring training. I thought Tampa Bay could actually be the team to beat but after Moore and Cobb went down they sort of collapsed and now they are 14 games out!!!!! Who would have believed it.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the big Yankee achievement..."sucking mildly". Ummmmmmm, Yankee Pride at it's best.

That's why having an orgasm over spring training is nuts. You should have learned a HUGE lesson after last year's spring training expectations for the Red Sox and the resulting 2013 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP! But the DNA of Yankees fans swims in an ocean of pure ENTITLEMENT. So we have to forgive you all since none of you can help it.

Pedroia & Oritz are struggling this season. Maybe the kid Bogarts, who's currently hitting just below .300. He's been the team's most consistent hitter this season, although he has not been great. Pitching-wise, Lester & Lackie are having decent seasons, but far from great or even close to their personal best seasons. I suppose if i had to chose a pitcher, i'd go with their closer Koji Uehara, who's done the job every time he's been asked to.

If i'd be the one selecting the team, i'd probably pick only one Red Sox: Koji Uehara. But as i mentionned, Bogarts might get consideration in order to calm the masses.

On a final note, what are they waiting for to send the awful Jackie Bradley Jr. to the minors? That it's too late & they've ruined him?? This kid in my opinion has tremendous potential & they're not doing him a favor by keeping him up with one of the worst teams in baseball going nowhere, considering his tremendous struggles at the plate.

Bogaerts seems to be turning into the real deal. He's definitely turning into a top of the order threat according to all sources and the evidence of his play. The best thing about him, which he showed in the playoffs, is his discipline and pitch selection at the plate.

Lester and Lackie have been good, sometimes stellar. But they go up against the best and a lot of their disadvantage has been the lack of timely Sox run production. Uehara has been a terrific pickup. In my opinion he was the critical factor since the Sox had so many 1-run victories last year, and with the team hitting poorly overall in the playoffs, despite magical timely hitting, his ability, and that of others, to keep the opposition down was THE key factor.

Jackie Bradly has so many plusses, but he can't seem to hit well enough overall to solidify his place on the team. The organization is trying to give him every shot like Pedroia got when he was performing weakly for two months in the beginning. Everyone is wishing the best for Bradley, but he doesn't seem to be growing at the plate.

The Red Sox have really been in development mode for young player coming up for two years. The championship of 2013 with everyone staying healthy and developing the chemistry that team had was a miraculous bonus. The fact is and was everyone expected to wait for high potential acquisitions to develop for a few years. But hey...if a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP just happens in the meantime....well SHIT...we'll keep it!!! BWHAHAHAHAHA!

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Take that hot air Joe. :lol:

Cheers,

Merlot

BTW...Too bad for A-Rod. I hear he's suffering without pay and misses playing...OR NOT.

BBTW...Where's DD since 2 months. I thought he was interested in baseball, no just chasing Rumps. ;)

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OHHHHHHHHHHHHH that Yankee $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ A little to the left Joe. :eyebrows:
 

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Time to rebuild, say goodbye to lester and ortiz.... maybe just maybe they can get a bag of used batting practice balls for All Star (not) Jack Bradley Jr. and Grady "the experiment" Sizemore. :lol:

Is it just me or does anybody else find it really cool in here without all of that hot air that is always being blown in from all those delusional Red Sux fans, the interesting question is who will be a Red Sux after the trade deadline, do they trade Buccholz, Lackey, Napoli?.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseba...ng_with_the_red_sox_and_what_can_they_do.html
 

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The bottom line is the Red Sux stink to high heaven, I can only imagine what this is doing to my delusional buddy Mr Forskin, but knowing him he probably thinks that this terrible, fluke(2013) of team is still good.:nono:

Boston Fluke (2013) is now a stinky fish. Mr. Forskin was betting his condo in Mtl on the Red Sox to repeat. Not going to happen, except in the alternative Universes he likes to dream up.
 

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Isn't it great how individuals can constantly take cheap shots at someone who's unable to defend themself? Last I checked that was strictly against the rules of Merb!!

I do agree that taking shots at someone who doesn't have a board presence is wrong.

However, he himself took shots at former board members in the past who no longer had a presence on this or any board. An outsider observer might look at it as someone getting a taste of his own medecine.

But personally, i'm against it & have always been. Former members or members who no longer wish to have a board presence should be left alone.
 

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I do agree that taking shots at someone who doesn't have a board presence is wrong.

However, he himself took shots at former board members in the past who no longer had a presence on this or any board. An outsider observer might look at it as someone getting a taste of his own medecine.

But personally, i'm against it & have always been. Former members or members who no longer wish to have a board presence should be left alone.

Yes he has but personally I love taking potshots at rumples simply because he is rumples LOL and I can't wait for him to come back, my health has taken a serious hit since he left and I need his legendary delusional baseball posts for health reasons(hilarious as fuck!!!), you could make a argument that we still have Merlot but it is always better to have him tag teaming with rumples providing us with so many laughable posts.:lol:
 
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