BOYS,
I'm sure you'd love me to agree with you ine everything, so would anyone because everyone likes to feel their views are justified. You'll have to settle for my being consistent and honest.
Let's be real here, the Pats currently have what's defined as a dynasty. Coming with a dynasty are certain responsibilities, the most important of which is the appearance of good sportsmanship & honesty. Whether or not guilt is legitimate, the Pats (by virtue of management responsibility) have fostered the very reverse. This fact can't be disputed by any reasonable UNBIASED person or entity out there. Dynasties are magnets for criticism and accusations, so the Pats had an affirmative responsibility to not only act in this manner,
Yes, they are a dynasty. Yes, dynasties are magnets for criticism and accusations since everyone loves winner, no one loves a repeater except their fans. As you infer criticism and accusations come regardless of how any person or team acts. That has nothing to do with the responsibility of an individual or a team. Criticism and accusations prove nothing. Proof proves something. A Patriots employee was caught with a camera outside the boundaries of area set for allowed filming. Yes, they cheated up to that limit. That is proven. All team have a responsibility to play within the rules. No team or individual can ever excuse any level of cheating because other teams do it. But to act like the Patriots did something evil for the same level of offenses by other teams that whose REPEATED offenses have been ignored has a malicious pathology to it.
People see they Patriots using the rules for a trick play in the Ravens playoff game that was used several times by other teams and even though the Patriots did everything by the book notifying the refs and thus the opposing team and right away the reaction is they are evil. Well, as Brady said, familiarize yourself better with the rules and don't whine about using a legal play. If any other team used that play people might have thought it was outside certain understandings of the game, but it sure wasn't against the rules. Mnay people would have said, damn, that's genius. Yet because it was the Patriots the whiners and Patriot's haters cry "evil". Nothing about the other teams who did it even when the media informed everyone 1. it had been done before, 2. it was definitely legal, 3. the Ravens simply were caught unprepared. Isn't it's every fair fans affirmative responsibility to acknowledge nothing was done wrongly and just deal with the fact Belichick was better playing within the rules.
M, I want to be VERY CLEAR that I'm not "taking up" for you OR Brady. There are two points I want to make:
2) Tom Brady has the same responsibilities as above, without the management angle. Of course, if he had any general knowledge of such activities, then the aforementioned would apply. That being said, Brady breached his responsibilities to his fans and to the sport in general by failing to cooperate and/or failing to give the perception of full cooperation. Such requirements are EXPECTED OF A TRUE LEGEND.
I ask you one question. Do you believe that ANYONE in the Pat's organization is guilty of the act they're being accused of? It would only be a fool that disputes this. The coach, as manager, must accept and take responsibilty for the actions of his staff. Bill Belichick understands this and has taken responsiblity by not disputing the NFL's findings. Is Belichick a cheater? It's not been proven that he's done anything wrong but poor management of this particular issue.
" It would only be a fool that disputes this." Your phrasing taints the whole question with a very biased no-win setup. You setup an fraudulent premise by allowing for only one outcome, and indictment. It's incredibly disingenuous.
However, Brady has been accused of:
1. Failure to cooperate. Yes, he did not cooperate with Wells.
2. More likely than not being aware of someone else may have tampered with the footballs. No! The American Enterprise Institute report and conclusion puts into question whether there was even an offense at all. This independent unbiased Conservative political think tank with no horse in the race , so to speak, proved at the very least that moving the balls from the rainy cold day outside to the warm dry locker room inside did in fact change the air pressure of the footballs, including the Colts footballs which were also deflated below rules limits in 75% of those tested.
It's NOT been proven that he's done anything wrong but poor management of this particular issue.
I would love to see you accept my points as at least an acknowledgment of having some consideration for the game and sportsmanship.
The whole question of "sportsmanship" comes down to who did what and when they did it. In so-called "Spygate" an employee went beyond the boundaries allowed for taking video. He's an employee of the Patriots so the organization gets blamed. Did Belichick order going outside the permitted area? No one will ever be sure. The people who will accept nothing less that intentional guilt can never know, and the people who have doubts will always be called kool--aid fans. Neither side knows if Belichick cheated but the offense was proven so the penalty was legit and justified.
In this case of the so-called "Deflategate" we know now how badly flawed the Wells Report is, we know now there's a good chance there was never even an offense, but we definitely know now there is absolutely nothing that shows with any reasonable evidence that anyone ever intentionally took air out of a football to cheat in any NFL game. We do know Brady likes PSI set at the lower rules limit and we know Rogers likes PSI set at the upper rules limit. Neither preference shows any attempt to tamper.
If not, I think you'll have shown your true colors with regards to this issue.
Certain phrasing has shown your true colors. You said:
It's not been proven that he's done anything wrong but poor management of this particular issue.
"I think Brady should be suspended for 2 weeks for failing to FULLY cooperate with the NFL, not for cheating". He deserves two weeks for not properly cooperating, thus he's an ASSHOLE, not a cheater.
So according to you It's not been proven Belichick did anything wrong and Brady is "NOT A CHEATER". I agree. So what are OUR TRUE COLORS buddy.
Let me ask you a question.
1. Given your own statements and the AEI report, do you think there's any more that should be punished than Brady not cooperating with Wells?
2. Given that an unbiased investigation showed no evidence of tampering and that the Wells Report was not only badly flawed (making methodology mistakes like a "statistics class freshman") and seemed to twist conclusions to fit a predetermined outcome, is there any credible evidence that shows an offense was committed at all?
3. If the is no real evidence of an offense why should anyone be punished for anything?
Also for the record betting is forbidden on MERB as the mods have stated this many times in the past, a suspension could be in order here for the instigator(King).
Yes, something caused 100% by you for welching on Anon then flaunting your shameful taunting only because you knew Anon could not get hold of your welching butt and your pals would cover for you...No-Honor-At-All-DOT-T.
Would you like to see the quote by the mod who banned you for your disgrace. I GUARANTEE his view of you will be entertaining.
Cheers,
Merlot
