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Tom Brady Appeal Hearing: Latest Details, Comments and Reaction

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-hearing-latest-details-comments-and-reaction

Adam Schefter

@AdamSchefter - Was told by person in today's appeal that Tom Brady's greatest ally was...Tom Brady. Offered explanations in all areas. Now up to Goodell.
9:10 PM - 23 Jun 2015

Michael McCann @McCannSportsLaw - Tom Brady testifying under oath means he's putting his actual freedom on the line in arguing the NFL got it wrong. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/613356393027006465
10:51 AM - 23 Jun 2015

A person with knowledge of Brady's testimony said he stuck with the story he has told since the investigation began: that if there were any scheme to deflate footballs below permissible levels for January's AFC title rout of the Indianapolis Colts, he didn't know about it or order it.

Mike Greenberg

@Espngreeny - If I'm Tom Brady and I'm innocent, I don't accept any suspension at all. Nothing. Because I'm fighting for something much more valuable.
10:03 AM - 23 Jun 2015


On ESPN today the basic problem of the hearing was discussed. Since Goodell served as supposed arbitrator he has two choices. 1. Stick with his original assessment which will compel Brady to go to court where the Wells Report with all it's flaws and the AEI Report shows there's no credible evidence anyone did anything and Gooodell must be nullified embarrassingly. 2. Cut or reduce the suspension where Goodell has to admit he was wrong and will anger many fans and players who will scream about his weakness and inconsistency. In other words, he's trapped himself no matter what. Only Brady giving up can save him and everyone believes everything Brady has said and done shows will not accept anything except total exoneration.

Transcript of Brady hearing won’t be released, yet

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/24/transcript-of-brady-hearing-wont-be-released-yet/

“There is a confidentiality agreement in place,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told PFT via email on Tuesday night. This means that neither the NFL nor Brady will be disclosing the document containing everything said by all lawyers, witnesses, and Commissioner Roger Goodell during Tuesday’s marathon session in Manhattan.

The confidentiality agreement likely will go out the window, if/when Brady and the NFL Players Association file a lawsuit against the NFL challenging the outcome of the appeal process. At that point, the transcript will become Exhibit A to the civil complaint kicking off the court case. Unless the presiding judge agrees to seal all documents (and there’s no reason for any judge to do that, especially with the 243-page Ted Wells report already in the public domain), there’s a good chance the media eventually will have a chance to study a document much longer than the 243-page Ted Wells report.


We'd all love to see the transcript of this hearing, and I know supporters of the truth are drooling for it. For myself I would love to see how Goodell handled this in front of all the lawyers when he couldn't just lord over a flawed report of his own control. Goodell must be in fear of how a court would look at all the facts and how he behaved throughout this entire fiasco. IMHO the most courageous thing he could do is to endure all the critical embarrassment and treat this case as the botch job it is and clean the slate. He won't. He hasn't got the integrity.

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CS or BS Martin. So we agree on almost all yet you respond as a nonsensical contrarian, for kicks as you've said, showing your only purpose is to be a disturber. Congrats, you are Persona Vilis (banned from acknowledgement).

:amen:

Merlot

God, I hope so. What a great day to know that Merlot will NEVER EVER ACKNOWLEDGE one of my posts or anything that I say in my posts. Now, if I can get rumps to do the same thing my day would be complete.
 

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CS or BS Martin. So we agree on almost all yet you respond as a nonsensical contrarian, for kicks as you've said, showing your only purpose is to be a disturber. Congrats, you are Persona Vilis (banned from acknowledgement).

:amen:

Merlot

Unbelievable. Merlot first dishing out the personal insults by hacking up Ver's old screen name, and then having the nerve to call Ver a disturber? What? Who is the real disturber here, Merlot? If I were to put a certain letter at the end of Merlot's name instead of what is there, Merlot would be the first one to run to the Mod's yelling for my suspension.

Unfreaking Unbeliveable.
 

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It's incredible what the KING get's away with but then again he is third in the all time rankings for MERB suspensions, Merlot can sure dish it out but he sure as hell can't take it and you are right DD, as soon as someone plays Merlot's favorite game with him(name calling) he goes running to the mods.:eek:

All time rankings for MERB suspensions-

1. Tony and his multiple handles.
2. rumpleforskin(I believe to be around 18 times).
3. Merlot who in time will pass rumples(My prediction).:nod:
 

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Who is the real disturber here, Merlot?

You and your pals who just posted completely off subject just to bitch that's who. That's how shit-disturbing is defined. You also have at least 1000 posts with nothing in them but chasing and insulting Rumples.

Why Goodell Rigged the Hearing.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...action-to-tom-brady-testimony-not-as-glowing/

Most importantly, it’s unlikely that the Commissioner will fully exonerate Brady because the Commissioner nearly lost his job last year by not going far enough in disciplining a player. When the Commissioner goes too far, eventually having his decisions overturned by some independent party, he suffers little or no P.R. fallout.

That dynamic alone should tell us all which way the wind is howling on this one. And it provides further proof for the notion that last year’s Ray Rice debacle has left the Commissioner hopelessly conflicted in every single one of these cases.

With one path jeopardizing his job and the other path not triggering even a peep of substantial criticism, the smart play for Goodell will always be to uphold a suspension and let the player and his union fight for further reduction or outright elimination of it in court. And that’s the kind of inherent conflict that arguably makes Goodell unfit to be the final decision-maker in any of these cases.


So it comes down to being nothing more than a phony publicity hearing he had to go through. He never had any intent and indeed benefits by cutting out any chance of being fair on the facts. That's Goodell,

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You and your pals who just posted completely off subject just to bitch that's who. That's how shit-disturbing is defined. You also have at least 1000 posts with nothing in them but chasing and insulting Rumples.

Merlow, you are truly unplugged. Me and my pals (who, Merlow? Me, lggy and Joe.T? and I forgot BS (CS) Martin as YOU call him, Ver, as we call him) always posting to dish you? Are you truly that paranoid? You have to be joking. And I made 1000 out of my less than 2500 Posts (that's about 40 percent of all of my posts) all insulting Rumps? Really? Can you quote all of them in a new thread in the Lounge? All 1,000 of them.

Why Goodell Rigged the Hearing.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...action-to-tom-brady-testimony-not-as-glowing/

Most importantly, it’s unlikely that the Commissioner will fully exonerate Brady because the Commissioner nearly lost his job last year by not going far enough in disciplining a player. When the Commissioner goes too far, eventually having his decisions overturned by some independent party, he suffers little or no P.R. fallout.

That dynamic alone should tell us all which way the wind is howling on this one. And it provides further proof for the notion that last year’s Ray Rice debacle has left the Commissioner hopelessly conflicted in every single one of these cases.

With one path jeopardizing his job and the other path not triggering even a peep of substantial criticism, the smart play for Goodell will always be to uphold a suspension and let the player and his union fight for further reduction or outright elimination of it in court. And that’s the kind of inherent conflict that arguably makes Goodell unfit to be the final decision-maker in any of these cases.


So it comes down to being nothing more than a phony publicity hearing he had to go through. He never had any intent and indeed benefits by cutting out any chance of being fair on the facts. That's Goodell,

:noidea:

Merlot

Now, about Tom Shady Brady, the cheating quarterback of the New England Patriots, the Dynasty team who wins Super Bowls once in a decade. Yes, football. What in the world are you talking about? Are you already posting his excuse ... he's getting railroaded? Try if Goodell rules against Brady, it was because Brady was not believable. How about that? Instead of being railroaded.
 

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Patriots fans,

...I made 1000 out of my less than 2500 Posts (that's about 40 percent of all of my posts) all insulting Rumps? Really?..

Embarrassing for you isn't it dayreamer.

Why Tom Brady will play for Patriots in 2015 NFL season opener


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...l-play-for-patriots-in-2015-nfl-season-opener

Let's pause here for a second and recalibrate our timeline. Goodell heard the Brady appeal on Tuesday, June 23. Post-appeal briefs are in by July 1. We find out the NFL's ruling on the appeal Friday, July 10th (around 4:30 p.m. ET, a.k.a. the weekly bad news dump).

Goodell decides Brady will still miss at least two games (please find someone who thinks the Commish will reduce it to a single game or less), maybe three. Or maybe nothing at all. Maybe it's still four.

Either way Brady sues Goodell, Troy Vincent, the NFL and anyone involved that he can fit in the section marked "DEFENDANTS." Throw Ted Wells, Dean Blandino and Bob Kravitz in there too just for the fun of it.

Suddenly Tom Brady has more lawsuits (2) against the NFL than he does Super Bowl wins (1) in the last decade. As with most lawsuits, this particular lawsuit isn't filed immediately after the appeal is denied.

Even if it's already drawn and ready you've got add at least a single day to the timeframe here. More reasonable is Brady ponders the lawsuit a few days/over the weekend, talks to Bill Belichick, talks to Bob Kraft, talks to his wife and makes a call on pursuing legal action some time in the middle of next week, which also serves as the middle of July.

So now we're in front of a federal judge with a lawsuit on our hands and it's the middle of July. The NFL has 30 days to answer said lawsuit and because lawyers almost inevitably take the full 30 days out of a force-of-billable-hours habit, we're suddenly in the middle of August before we're even really starting to heat up in court.

The NFL files a Motion to Dismiss with its response, Brady's side takes close to the full 30 days to answer that while also filing an injunction to grant Brady the freedom to play while this all sorts itself out and suddenly we're at the beginning of September with Brady -- by ruling of a court -- being told he can play football and the NFL and one of its biggest stars battling it out off the field for the length of his suspension.

Under the brightest lights possible, Brady suits up for the Patriots against the Steelers in Week 1 and through the magic of soap-opera level storylines, interest is the highest it has ever been for the NFL's Kickoff. Sure, everyone will lament the shroud of darkness over the Patriots and Brady, but even your mother-in-law will be watching; it'll be can't-miss TV, like the Super Bowl at the start of the year.

Eventually the two sides will reach a settlement in court and Brady will serve a one-game suspension -- you certainly don't want to risk being suspended too late in the year, a.k.a. the playoffs -- with my guess being Week 3 (home against the Jaguars) or Week 9 (home against the Redskins). Ratings and drama for those games will be through the roof, too.

All of this is just a prediction on how this whole thing plays out. Maybe Goodell stared deep into Brady's soul, believed he had only minimal knowledge of PSI and gives him a one-game suspension that Brady accepts. Maybe Brady's suspension is reduced two games so he and Kraft decide it's not worth the effort to fight the league.

Maybe Tom Brady doesn't want his cell phone records and crippling emoji addiction to become part of a public court file. There are plenty of reasons why this all comes undone and Brady's sidelined for the first game of the season.

But my best guess is Goodell sticks to his guns, Brady does the same and this whole thing gets tossed into the maw of the legal process, where everything moves slower than a snail stuck in molasses.

The end result of that is Brady getting to play Week 1 for New England (while Le'Veon Bell sits!) and the NFL raking in massive ratings. A win-win for everyone involved.


I've come to agree partially with the author of a previous article I posted which concluded one reason Goodell won't drop Brady's penalty to the same level as the other matching infractions by the Chargers and Vikings is that the public mob wants to hang him when he's too easy and nobody cares when his decisions get overturned. We can see the mass public mania of Patriots hatred would put Goodell in the same position he was in when he let Ray Rice off the hook with a 2-game suspension. In this case Goodell would be at grave risk of losing his job because of conspiracy obsessed haters. One look at my manically angry Patriot-hating pal above explains all,

Oh well, :noidea:

Merlot
 
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Embarrassing for you isn't it dayreamer.

Embarrassing? Say what? That you're trying to make your fantasy a reality?

Why Tom Brady will play for Patriots in 2015 NFL season opener[/SIZE][/B]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...l-play-for-patriots-in-2015-nfl-season-opener

Let's pause here for a second and recalibrate our timeline. Goodell heard the Brady appeal on Tuesday, June 23. Post-appeal briefs are in by July 1. We find out the NFL's ruling on the appeal Friday, July 10th (around 4:30 p.m. ET, a.k.a. the weekly bad news dump).

Goodell decides Brady will still miss at least two games (please find someone who thinks the Commish will reduce it to a single game or less), maybe three. Or maybe nothing at all. Maybe it's still four.

Either way Brady sues Goodell, Troy Vincent, the NFL and anyone involved that he can fit in the section marked "DEFENDANTS." Throw Ted Wells, Dean Blandino and Bob Kravitz in there too just for the fun of it.

Suddenly Tom Brady has more lawsuits (2) against the NFL than he does Super Bowl wins (1) in the last decade.
As with most lawsuits, this particular lawsuit isn't filed immediately after the appeal is denied.

Even if it's already drawn and ready you've got add at least a single day to the timeframe here. More reasonable is Brady ponders the lawsuit a few days/over the weekend, talks to Bill Belichick, talks to Bob Kraft, talks to his wife and makes a call on pursuing legal action some time in the middle of next week, which also serves as the middle of July.

So now we're in front of a federal judge with a lawsuit on our hands and it's the middle of July. The NFL has 30 days to answer said lawsuit and because lawyers almost inevitably take the full 30 days out of a force-of-billable-hours habit, we're suddenly in the middle of August before we're even really starting to heat up in court.

The NFL files a Motion to Dismiss with its response, Brady's side takes close to the full 30 days to answer that while also filing an injunction to grant Brady the freedom to play while this all sorts itself out and suddenly we're at the beginning of September with Brady -- by ruling of a court -- being told he can play football and the NFL and one of its biggest stars battling it out off the field for the length of his suspension.

Under the brightest lights possible, Brady suits up for the Patriots against the Steelers in Week 1 and through the magic of soap-opera level storylines, interest is the highest it has ever been for the NFL's Kickoff. Sure, everyone will lament the shroud of darkness over the Patriots and Brady, but even your mother-in-law will be watching; it'll be can't-miss TV, like the Super Bowl at the start of the year.

Eventually the two sides will reach a settlement in court and Brady will serve a one-game suspension -- you certainly don't want to risk being suspended too late in the year, a.k.a. the playoffs -- with my guess being Week 3 (home against the Jaguars) or Week 9 (home against the Redskins). Ratings and drama for those games will be through the roof, too.

All of this is just a prediction on how this whole thing plays out. Maybe Goodell stared deep into Brady's soul, believed he had only minimal knowledge of PSI and gives him a one-game suspension that Brady accepts. Maybe Brady's suspension is reduced two games so he and Kraft decide it's not worth the effort to fight the league.

Maybe Tom Brady doesn't want his cell phone records and crippling emoji addiction to become part of a public court file. There are plenty of reasons why this all comes undone and Brady's sidelined for the first game of the season.

But my best guess is Goodell sticks to his guns, Brady does the same and this whole thing gets tossed into the maw of the legal process, where everything moves slower than a snail stuck in molasses.

The end result of that is Brady getting to play Week 1 for New England (while Le'Veon Bell sits!) and the NFL raking in massive ratings. A win-win for everyone involved.


I've come to agree partially with the author of a previous article I posted which concluded one reason Goodell won't drop Brady's penalty to the same level as the other matching infractions by the Chargers and Vikings is that the public mob wants to hang him when he's too easy and nobody cares when his decisions get overturned. We can see the mass public mania of Patriots hatred would put Goodell in the same position he was in when he let Ray Rice off the hook with a 2-game suspension. In this case Goodell would be at grave risk of losing his job because of conspiracy obsessed haters. One look at my manically angry Patriot-hating pal above explains all,

Oh well, :noidea:

Merlot

Well, the fact that Brady has a LEGAL dynasty going is impressive. More lawsuits against the NFL than Super Bowl wins in the last decade. :thumb:
 

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Honest Emmanuel Sanders says that the New England Patriots should not be Super Bowl Champions, I quote-

"You aren't supposed to cheat, cheating is not good, especially when you've got guys who are working they're butts off for 365 days out of the year and one person cheats -- whether it helps them win the Super Bowl or not, they still cheated and shouldn't be a champion.", God bless you honest Emmanuel Sanders.:thumb:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...mmanuel-sanders-patriots-should-not-be-champs
 

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Honest Emmanuel Sanders says that the New England Patriots should not be Super Bowl Champions, I quote-

"You aren't supposed to cheat, cheating is not good, especially when you've got guys who are working they're butts off for 365 days out of the year and one person cheats -- whether it helps them win the Super Bowl or not, they still cheated and shouldn't be a champion.", God bless you honest Emmanuel Sanders.:thumb:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...mmanuel-sanders-patriots-should-not-be-champs

I agree with Emmanuel Sanders. :thumb: Thank you, JoeT. for bringing this to our attention. Cheaters should NEVER Prosper, except it seems that the New England Patriots seem to when they CHEAT.
 

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Honest Emmanuel Sanders....

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...el-sanders-deal-leaves-executives-crying-foul

Emmanuel Sanders has agreed to terms on a three-year deal with the Broncos worth $15 million, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations."

Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the wide receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, according to another source involved in the process.

While shopping the Chiefs' offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off.

"This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped."

Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations. However, his client addressed the matter at a Sunday news conference announcing the signing.

"There was no handshake," Sanders said. "There was no kind of agreement in terms of -- you know -- we were close to a deal, but it wasn't anything official just yet."

Weinberg, a Dallas-based agent, recently was reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collected a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients.

Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred.

While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, Weinberg's shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that an agreement had been reached showed another side of the business. A Broncos source said the team had no knowledge of any prior agreements before it agreed to terms with Sanders.

"When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... not proper."


Tsk...Tsk ...Tsk...what a dirty pair they make. So Sanders and his agent reneged on their word of honor not once, not twice, but at least three times...and that's what Joe.t calls "honest". :lol: :lol: :lol: That's the real Joe 4 suuuuuurrrreeee.

:thumb:

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So Sanders' AGENT gets barred and that makes Sanders dishonest? :confused: That logic is http://www.lifeisajoke.com/Pictures/head_up_ass.jpg

The reply wasn't to you. However, if the player has any brains, especially when the issue is his career and it's protection and prosperity, he would look into who his agent is, his skills, his successes, his reputation and record. If Sanders wants to pretend to be informed enough to make a valid opinion about the Patriots then he should certainly be informed enough to know his lawyer is very shady, which is much more accessible to Sander's than knowing anything about what actually happened concerning any actual deflating of the footballs. Sanders had to know his agent was once barred for several years for cheating on deals or he'd be and idiot...and either way his integrity looks very poor.

He chose someone he knew had been dishonest. That alone makes his integrity questionable.


How nice of you. You love this kind of thing don't you. Since you enjoy insulting, and you once sent me the filthy urban dictionary definition of one of you labels, here's what your own source says about the name you chose.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=day+dreamer

Your source not mine.

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The reply wasn't to you. However, if the player has any brains, especially when the issue is his career and it's protection and prosperity, he would look into who his agent is, his skills, his successes, his reputation and record. If Sanders wants to pretend to be informed enough to make a valid opinion about the Patriots then he should certainly be informed enough to know his lawyer is very shady, which is much more accessible to Sander's than knowing anything about what actually happened concerning any actual deflating of the footballs. Sanders had to know his agent was once barred for several years for cheating on deals or he'd be and idiot...and either way his integrity looks very poor.

He chose someone he knew had been dishonest. That alone makes his integrity questionable.

Oh, really? You reply on the board, it's to everyone to offer their opinion.

Anyway, I find your logic twisted by transferring the integrity of his agent to Sanders.

How nice of you. You love this kind of thing don't you. Since you enjoy insulting, and you once sent me the filthy urban dictionary definition of one of you labels, here's what your own source says about the name you chose.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=day+dreamer

Your source not mine.

Cheers,

Merlot

You can dish it Merlow, but you can't take it.

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I'm sure it's not his fault, DayDisturber could not see through the thick Koolaid brand glasses.

I'm not too worried about E-Rod. In all the games where he gets past that 4th inning he's very solid, and the previous game where he had only one bad inning was caused largely by errors that kept it going.

BTW: did you know Sabathia is leading the league in ERs allowed (55) and Home Runs given up (17), and only for $23 million per year. i might have sworn the second stat belonged to Porcello, but damn, Sabathia showed me I'm very wrong. Thanks CC.

Shazaaaam, :D

Merlot

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Embarrassing for you isn't it dayreamer.
 

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LOL,

Anyway, I find your logic twisted by transferring the integrity of his agent to Sanders.

So if I vote for Hillary Clinton to carry out what I want that doesn't reflect on me, just like Sanders choosing Weinberg for his lawyer to carry out what he wants doesn't reflect on him. Yet, you can't help calling Hillary supporters stupid Liberals when you say Sanders should not be connected with the kind of shady methods Weinberg uses.

That's some twisted daydreaming Daydreamer.

You forget it's not just your pals reading this bud.

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