Coronavirus

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Looks like the police are telling Ford to pound sand.

Many Ontario police forces refuse power under new COVID-19 orders to enforce random stops

Criticism of Premier Doug Ford's new powers for police has been widespread and furious.

montrealgazette.com

 

[EagerBeaver]

Looks like the police are telling Ford to pound sand.

And what will be Ford's response to the insubordination?

 

[cloudsurf]

And what will be Ford's response to the insubordination?

He backed down....just like most sissy Canadian politicians would do.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Covid Deaths Now Over 3 Million Worldwide; USA and Brazil have most deaths:

Global Covid-19 death toll passes 3 million as cases surge | CNN

More than three million people globally have died of Covid-19 since the start of the pandemic, Johns Hopkins University said on Saturday.

www.cnn.com

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

From what I am reading all the measures Quebec is taking over and over again ( the most drastic in Canada ) is not working.

COVID-19 hospitalizations jump by 28 to 692 in Quebec

Quebec reported a total of 1,537 COVID-19 cases and eight more deaths on Saturday.

montrealgazette.com

What do they say, something about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

 

[EagerBeaver]

...to go better in CANADA ONTARIO will have to do better---particulièrement in TORONTO and PEEL region--- IMHO a complete lockdown---sauf pour les services essentiels--and curfew for at least ONE MONTH aideraient à ralentir la vague qui les secoue durement en ce moment...et qui à court terme risque à coup sûr de toucher aussi le Québec.

Unfortunately I think you are right that lockdowns are going to be the only way to slow things down if you can't get enough people vaccinated. You would like to be able to trust citizens to do the right things as far as preventing the spread of Covid, but when they have proven again and again that they either haven't, can't or won't, there is no choice but to lock their asses down. I think if it were not for the vaccination race partially being won over Covid (especially where I live in CT), the USA would be in the same situation. It's unfortunate that this has to happen, but the writing is on the wall and you have to smell the coffee and inhale pretty deeply at this point. The alternative is overwhelmed hospitals, many deaths, and sick Canadian refugees illegally crossing the border, calling Uber, and getting taken to United States hospitals for ventilator treatment they cannot wait for in Canada, which is a situation many here would find unacceptable. I have already warned some friends who live near the border that this could happen.

 

[IamNY]

When your toolbox has only two tools, a vaccine and lockdowns, you have no choice but to lock shit down when you can't vaccinate people fast enough. This time last year in NY I learned that first hand when we were locked down without any vaccines in sight. But even when you have a vaccine that doesn't always mean things are going to get better. Look at Michigan, they are on the verge of maxing out their hospitals and locking down even though they have had access to vaccines just like all the other states.

 

[EagerBeaver]

By the way I had my Pfizer vaccine part 2 yesterday at 12:30 p.m. and I am happy to report no side effects so far. After part 1, my arm was a bit sore, but no other side effects. So far, my arm is not really even very sore and last night I slept on my left side (shot was given in upper left arm) quite peacefully.

BTW I am wondering if you guys have at all perfected the post-Covid handshake which is essentially a closed fist bumped against another closed fist? I ask because if I am finally available to come to Montreal in 2023 and see any of you guys, we have to do the post Covid fist-bump handshakes:

 

[IamNY]

And some more bad news:

Quebec closes border with Ontario at 12:01 a.m. Monday

Sporadic road checks will be implemented to limit travel between the two provinces, Quebec says.

www.google.com

 

[Like_It_Hot]

For me it is rather good news. Important measures has to be taken to slow down the transmission. Of course, bad news on the progression of COVID in Ontario.
In Quebec, strong measures contribute to a plateau. All the opposite of what is claimed by some here.
Daily cases since march 17th. Source https://www.inspq.qc.ca/covid-19/donnees

 

[IamNY]

I guess it all depends on what side of the province your on. Last year at this time states like Rhode Island were doing similar measures by stopping people with NY plates from coming to their state. NY was having a real tough time with Covid and other states were shitting all over us. What goes around comes around and infection rates can quickly change for the worst in your area. Shutting out countries or international travelers is one thing, but shutting down your neighbor can come back to bite you in the ass.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Yes Rhode Island took that step but CT and NJ never did because the 3 Tristate area Governors were working together from the beginning of the outbreak and that regional approach proved effective. Rhode Island marched to its own drummer and later in the pandemic, Rhode Island was put on CT's Travel Advisory List for a very long time , probably longer than any other state. Rhode Island was never one of the so called Sensational 6 States in battling Covid.

At the time I think RI was worried residents of NY would overwhelm their then already overwhelmed hospitals.

 

[IamNY]

I think Rhode Island panicked and reacted to the great unknowns of the pandemic. By comparison, doing something like that now seems a bit extreme, like closing the Ontario/Quebec border.

 

[IamNY]

Some good news for a change. Half of the US has gotten at least one vaccine shot and it's believed that cases will be dropping dramatically in the next few weeks:

Dr. Scott Gottlieb expects Covid cases in U.S. to fall 'quite dramatically' in coming weeks

Warming weather and continued progress administering Covid vaccines will help lower U.S. coronavirus cases, Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNBC.

www.cnbc.com

This is also good news because neither of our countries is ready to open up the border especially with the north surging:

https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/canada/us-canada-border-closure-now-listed-through-may-21/

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Some good news for a change. Half of the US has gotten at least one vaccine shot and it's believed that cases will be dropping dramatically in the next few weeks:

The timing is right.

When Exactly Is Flu Season?​

In general in the United States, flu season can start anytime in late fall, peak in mid-to-late winter (between January and February), and continue through early spring.2 On average, flu season lasts about 13 weeks. It will usually end by April, but in some years it can linger into May.

Flu: Symptoms, Contagiousness, and Treatment

The flu (influenza) is a common respiratory infection caused by a virus. Flu symptoms generally come on quickly and last several days. Learn how long.

www.verywellhealth.com

 

[sene5hos]

This year there was no flu season.

I don't know why, unless those (like Sol) who think the coronavirus is just the flu, by then we have a really long flu period for 2020-2021

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^ Comprehension, most viruses have cycles, up and down. Also, weird that there was no flu season, first time in history I think.

 

[sene5hos]

It's not complicated, and it works.

If you want the pandemic to end and for things to open up and return to normal, wear your mask, wash your hands regularly, keep the 2 meters, and get vaccinated.

 

[gallantca]

Some good news for a change. Half of the US has gotten at least one vaccine shot and it's believed that cases will be dropping dramatically in the next few weeks:

They are predicting the tipping point of vaccination will be in around 2 weeks, at which point it will be harder and harder to find people willing to be vaccinated. It will be interesting to see how they persuade people.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I am American and fully vaccinated. I had a long debate about the vaccine with my IT guy, who is "waiting" on the vaccine. He is as intelligent and well educated as I am. He argues that the long term impact on the DNA and the immune system has not been adequately researched and that the vaccine was therefore rushed. I think he makes valid points. I decided to roll the dice knowing the risk. He decided to wait. There are people that believe the same as he does. And that's why they will wait. So the question is did they stop researching the vaccines long term impact or is that research being stifled?