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And not enough on China. At least today the WHO ask them the close down their wet market. But more needs to be done.

The cover up and their numbers of cases do not make a fucking sense.

Totally agree. The cover up rumors have been buzzing around now for a few months. If it turns out that China deliberately covered this up there should be hell to pay. When this broke out China made sure to shut down travel within China from Wuhan but allowed international flights to still happen. Protecting them and letting the world suffer.
 

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King Trump and the deep state(s):

this book might be an interesting read now

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/15/8348...ent-trump-s-notion-of-a-deep-state-conspiracy

'In Deep' Challenges President Trump's Notion Of A Deep-State Conspiracy


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Heard on NPR Fresh Air

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TERRY GROSS, HOST

"Author David Rohde refutes Trump's claims about a "deep state" — and argues that the president is the one creating a parallel shadow government filled with like-minded loyalists."

"ROHDE: So the amazing thing about this moment with Trump is that he feels this sort of disdain for career government officials. And he doesn't trust them. He feels they're blocking him from being able to carry out his powers as president. And then he's joining a long-running, decades-old conservative belief that the presidency was sort of weakened too much in the 1970s.

After Watergate and the other reforms I mentioned, Congress and the judiciary shouldn't have any say whatsoever in how the president, you know, conducts his business.
One of the reforms in the '70s was creating inspectors general. It was created by Congress. And this was a way to oversee money, such as the $2 trillion bailout. And there's a whole philosophy that's existed since Watergate, since the Ford administration. And back then, Dick Cheney, who was President Ford's chief of staff, and Donald Rumsfeld, who also served as chief of staff, led by Antonin Scalia, believed that Watergate had gone too far, the presidency was too weakened, and one young adherent to this belief was Bill Barr.

And so when you see Trump sort of firing all these people, he's reflecting this sort of decades-old belief that, of the three branches, the presidency is the most important - Bill Barr talked about this in a speech at the Heritage Foundation - and that whenever the country has sort of faced war or natural disaster, it's the executive branch that has been able to move decisively enough to save the nation. And that is under threat because the powers of the president have been curtailed. And you need to sort of ignore Congress and ignore the courts."
 

The Nature Boy

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Listen, lemme tell u fuckers something. Iceland is not USA, Canada or UK. The population is 400,000 or less. When ur @ a bar and chatting a chic up, there’s an app that’s available to make sure that chics not a cousin!!! Whatever works in Iceland for covid isn’t gonna work in North America!
 

ShyMan

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Whatever works in Iceland for covid isn’t gonna work in North America!

I agree. Iceland's population is a fraction of Singapore's, which went into a more stringent lock down to contain a second wave.

I think Germany could serve as a good example for Canada and the US.

South Korea has a couple of companies that have scaled up and are making diagnostic test kits that the US may end up buying.

I would not trust any diagnostic test kits made in China.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/16/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

"LONDON — The two Chinese companies were offering a risky proposition: two million home test kits said to detect antibodies for the coronavirus for at least $20 million, take it or leave it.The asking price was high, the technology was unproven and the money had to be paid upfront. And the buyer would be required to pick up the crate loads of test kits from a facility in China.


Yet British officials took the deal, according to a senior civil servant involved, then confidently promised tests would be available at pharmacies in as little as two weeks. “As simple as a pregnancy test,” gushed Prime Minister Boris Johnson. “It has the potential to be a total game changer.”


There was one problem, however. The tests did not work."
 

The Nature Boy

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Do you really think Sanjay Gupta dresses this spiffy @ home when he does these do it yourself home videos on Cuomo News Network?
 

The Nature Boy

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I said it before and I’ll say it again. Not trying to be racist but the Chinese have been eating weird shit for thousands of years, back even when it wasn’t weird to eat half this shit. This wet market origin theory just doesn’t sound right. Not saying it’s not possible, but just sayin....

:puke::puke:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/science-environment-52318539
 

cloudsurf

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TNB as an educated individual I`m surprised that you could so easily dismiss scientific evidence as to the origins of most viral epidemics. Recent genetic science all but links the coronavirus to one that is found in a certain species of bat....one that was sold in the live markets of Wuhan.
Just because some Chinese (and some Africans ) have been eating bush meat for thousands of years doesn`t mean that humans haven`t had epidemics in the past and present caused by inter species virus and bacteria.
BTW can`t only blame Asians and Africans . Europeans did their share of passing on epidemics of smallpox and venereal disease to vulnerable populations of indigenous people.
 

The Nature Boy

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Lol but cloudy, not sayin it didn’t come from bats. Take a gander @ article.

“The column says the officials were worried about safety and management weaknesses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) and called for more help.
It also claims diplomats were concerned the lab's research on bat coronaviruses could risk a new Sars-like pandemic. The newspaper says the cables fuelled more recent discussions in the US government about whether the WIV or another lab in Wuhan could have been the source of the virus behind the current pandemic.”
 

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Here is the Coronavirus current events quiz of the night.

With regard to funding for Coronavirus testing, who said "don't pass the buck, without passing the bucks"?

(a) Andrew Scheer
(b) A.J. Parkinson
(c) Andrew Cuomo
(d) Francois Legault
(e) Joe Biden
(f) Donald Trump
(g) Dr. Anthony Fauci
(h) Dr. Sanjay Gupta
 

cloudsurf

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That was too easy Beav . You should have added a few more names like Dr Phil and Oz and Oprah. Judge Judy would be a good candidate too.
Jal, passing the buck means passing on responsibility but by not passing on the bucks (money) you are making the task near impossible. It wasn`t a compliment from Cuomo to Trump.
There is another expression made famous by a prior US President.....The buck stops here. Something not in Trump`s vocabulary.
 

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Research Reveals That COVID-19 Attacks Hemoglobin In Red Blood Cells, Rendering It Incapable Of Transporting Oxygen. Current Medical Protocols Could All Be Wrong!

https://www.thailandmedical.news/ne...-transporting-oxygen--current-medical-protoco

https://chemrxiv.org/articles/COVID...e_Metabolism_by_Binding_to_Porphyrin/11938173

Debunked:

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...unsupported-and-implausible-andrew-gaiziunas/


Note to myself: not everything in print in the” scientific” journals is science
 

anon_vlad

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The US now has about 33% of the world's Coronavirus cases, despite having barely 4% of the world's population. In particular, even socialist Canada, with our vastly inferior medical system, is doing much better proportionately. WHO's fault is it? Bill Gates, Chinese germ warfare, Chinese eating bats, Barak Obama, the media, the Impeachment, Democratic state governors, General Motors, thieving medical workers.....

It's not Donald's fault. The buck stops anywhere else. He takes, in his own words, "No responsibility".
 

minutemenX

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The US now has about 33% of the world's Coronavirus cases, despite having barely 4% of the world's population. ".

The number of cases is proportional to the population and the density of testing (say # of testing per 1 million). Factor this in and the US is better than many European countries.
 

The Nature Boy

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Errr, not Deutschland. Not even close