Coronavirus

[donbusch]

There is way too much optimism abt the infection curve flattening in Europe & the US. In reality, has the Covid-19 situation really improved?

Death & Infection rate s r still deliberately being under-reported: If a person dies at home or before testing then it’s not counted. Widespread testing is still not available.

New York daily death toll is under-reported by 200+ per day. Italy has taken a turn for the worse. Germany & UK r still reporting all time high deaths.

But politicians r still overly focused on restarting the economy and ignoring the obvious. If Covid-19 is properly contained via widespread testing & contact tracing w/ proper surveilance then the economy will restart on its own, no special action required.

But the politicians still want to take the easy popular way out and that’s exactly the same stupid attitude that got us into this shithole in the first place!

Covid-19 doesn’t care about economic stimulus nor can it be flattered or intimidated, all it wants to do is to find more hosts and it’s very good at that. Think about that and the fact that Covid-19 began w/ only a few people in a large city only 6 months ago ..... Until we truly understand the enemy, we r doomed to continue failing.

 

[UrBrother]

I think Cuomo F'd up big time, but he's got CNN on his side. I'm no Trump supporter, actually can't stand the orange guy, but, IMHO, the blame falls first on the governors, then on him. Look at what Gavin Newsom did in California especially at the timeline.
Oh, and without being disrespectful to the Chinese people, but China's Government must pay for the fuck up and the cover-up.
My 0.02, you don't have to agree with me...

Fair points but I think Cuomo is skilled at noodling voters and creating the illusion of firm leadership. Plus he is a gifted speaker and when you are a gifted speaker and are given the platform to talk and talk and talk some more, you begin to resonate with voters on a personal level.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Ben Stiller as Fauci?

That'd be my choice also!

 

[Doc Holliday]

That being said, im really hopping services like bus and obviously escorts start back before that date. Im thinking going to Montreal in June, or July at the latest unless its totally undoable.

Don't count on it. I had a two-week long trip planned for Montreal from the end of June to the 2nd week of July and i cancelled it yesterday. Cancelled my hotel rooms & still have airfare to cancel but i'll wait to see what happens later in case they may waive the cancellation fee. It wouldn't surprise me if everything is still pretty much closed down by July. With no GP, Jazzfest & Just for Laughs this summer there's no longer a reason for me to spend time in Mtl this summer. The Rogers Cup (tennis) event will also probably get cancelled if it hasn't been already.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I think the summer season is done/kaput, but by October the annual Montreal escort party will still be able to happen.

 

[cloudsurf]

Who do you fuckers think will play Fauci on SNL?

The guy who plays Sanders since he is now out of a job.

 

[gll]

Doc, with most airlines you can probably cancel your flight and get a voucher for a future flight. however, you should wait to the last minute to cancel since if THEY cancel the flight they will likely reimburse you in cash and a lot of flights are being canceled this happen to me- i waited to the last minute to cancel my flight and the airline canceled the flight two days before the scheduled departure- they then reimbursed me for the flight in cash.

this really sucks- in a couple weeks i would have gone up to montreal. i am beginning to think that we should inoculate ourselves against covid 19 like they did for smallpox back in the 17th century. you give yourself a little of the virus and you typically have a mild infection and then are immune. in fact, some think the that seriousness of covid is related to the amount of virus that you were exposed to.

 

[TheJames101]

you give yourself a little of the virus and you typically have a mild infection and then are immune. in fact, some think the that seriousness of covid is related to the amount of virus that you were exposed to.

I suspect you're joking, but if you know of a way to only give yourself a "little of the virus", then go ahead!

Of course, that's also the premise of a vaccine... but in smaller amounts than you can give yourself.

 

[gll]

vaccines use a weakened or inactivated form of the virus.

 

[No_Church_InThe_Wild]

I don’t think he is kidding as there might be a link on how severe the disease will be based on the dose of the virus one is exposed to

 

[OnJustALark]

Don't count on it. I had a two-week long trip planned for Montreal from the end of June to the 2nd week of July and i cancelled it yesterday. Cancelled my hotel rooms & still have airfare to cancel but i'll wait to see what happens later in case they may waive the cancellation fee. It wouldn't surprise me if everything is still pretty much closed down by July. With no GP, Jazzfest & Just for Laughs this summer there's no longer a reason for me to spend time in Mtl this summer. The Rogers Cup (tennis) event will also probably get cancelled if it hasn't been already.

Right now there are no cancellation fees for ANY schedule changes impacted by china virus ... have cancelled three separate round trips on AA with no issue ... will get a "credit" for full amount of fare paid to use on future flight - UNLESS the air cairrier cancels the flight, then you get a refund.

 

[jeff teliska]

Martin Short as Fauci ?

 

[The Nature Boy]

I think it gonna be Ben stiller

 

[jalimon]

Right now there are no cancellation fees for ANY schedule changes impacted by china virus ... have cancelled three separate round trips on AA with no issue ... will get a "credit" for full amount of fare paid to use on future flight - UNLESS the air cairrier cancels the flight, then you get a refund.

Correct but that's AA's policy. I had 4 trips cancelled this spring, 2 on AA and 1 on Delta where I got either a credit or refund. Then one on Air Canada where I did not get anything... Lost 600$

 

[The Nature Boy]

TAP is a bunch of bitches, tough to get an email response, tough to get someone on phone. You can always dispute the credit card charge until they give you a credit or $$ back

 

[Halloween Mike]

Don't count on it. It wouldn't surprise me if everything is still pretty much closed down by July.

Im a Quebec local. I don't need to cross broder or flight. Im thinking by July a lot of services will have restarted. First even Legault said it that the province can't remain shut down forever, economy do have to start back. They want to try to avoid any big gathering so yes festival and such won't happy but local business should be re-open by them. Maybe restaurants will go back to the 50% capacity rule. And im pretty sure escort agencies will open back before July... Lots of these girls want to work because they need the cash.

My only concern is the bus/amigo express services, but i may be able to use the old ways i used to do before (facebook group).

Obviously its also linked direct on the providers and if they will work or not by then.

The whole 1 year/1 year and a half of Trudeau ... screw that !! I remember one year ago very well cause its when i started to loose weight. It feels like a LONG TIME AGO. I will not stay confined that long !! I may not control festivals and events or borders but i do control at least myself and i can tell you that ill be seeing family and friends before 1 year... At some point we can't go insane ...

 

[IamNY]

If Covid19 acts like a typical cornavirus I'm hoping it sputters out in another month or two. If we are that fortunate I suspect the things we lost first will comeback first, sports (minus the fans), employment, restaurants with reduced seating, amateur sports like golfing with my buddies, etc. Then last, like we lost last, the freedom to travel across borders and travel via planes. Our border will open up soon after sports begin. The cruise ship industry may never make it back, but that's my own personal opinion. Our lives have changed so rapidly in just 2 months give or take. 2 fucking months, that's all!

We went from being told that we would lose millions, then to hundreds of thousands and to recent scenarios maxing us out at around 60,000 people in the USA alone. A big number, and it is truly a tragedy. But nothing close to what the experts were telling us. In perspective, we will lose the same amount of people to suicide or drug overdose every fucking year.

I'm hoping that the world starts to get "normal" again by the middle of June. It will be weird the first time or two we get back to banging the SP's like we used to. Just think about how much you use Purell or how mind blowing going to the grocery store is. But I think that banging SP's will be the easiest thing to get back to normal. At least I hope it will be for me.

 

[The Nature Boy]

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/index.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...uicide-canada-key-statistics-infographic.html

waterloo,

the stats are above. The drug overdose while alarming and although it’s tough to say one is more of a threat than the other when comparing to covid-19, I cant say that by you providing rehabilitative therapy to individuals who smoke crack cocaine in a 12 step group could result in you coming home and find your family members smoking crack cocaine. So, there’s a bit of a difference

 

[EagerBeaver]

The cruise ship industry may never make it back, but that's my own personal opinion.

It's an interesting question. Certainly, it has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that a cruise ship is not a pandemic friendly vacation. There can be no assurances that anyone setting foot on a cruise ship will not end up unexpectedly quarantined for weeks, or even months in a strange foreign port city, unable to travel not only to the scheduled ports, but also unable to return home in a timely fashion. It seems to me that a minimum, the cruise ship industry will be out of action a lot longer than anyone else.

 

[IamNY]

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/index.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...uicide-canada-key-statistics-infographic.html

waterloo,

the stats are above. The drug overdose while alarming and although it’s tough to say one is more of a threat than the other when comparing to covid-19, I cant say that by you providing rehabilitative therapy to individuals who smoke crack cocaine in a 12 step group could result in you coming home and find your family members smoking crack cocaine. So, there’s a bit of a difference

I was only using the drug overdose numbers for a comparison. I wasn't comparing the threat level between Covid19 and drug overdose, I was simply pointing out the number of deaths are similar. Just comparing deaths per year, not about 12 step programs or smoking crack. Deaths per year. Also pointing out that there really hasn't been enough public outrage for these numbers. People die from drug overdose and suicide every year, not just 2020 like covid19.