Right now there are no cancellation fees for ANY schedule changes impacted by china virus ... have cancelled three separate round trips on AA with no issue ... will get a "credit" for full amount of fare paid to use on future flight - UNLESS the air cairrier cancels the flight, then you get a refund.
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Right now there are no cancellation fees for ANY schedule changes impacted by china virus ... have cancelled three separate round trips on AA with no issue ... will get a "credit" for full amount of fare paid to use on future flight - UNLESS the air cairrier cancels the flight, then you get a refund.
Correct but that's AA's policy. I had 4 trips cancelled this spring, 2 on AA and 1 on Delta where I got either a credit or refund. Then one on Air Canada where I did not get anything... Lost 600$
TAP is a bunch of bitches, tough to get an email response, tough to get someone on phone. You can always dispute the credit card charge until they give you a credit or $$ back
Im a Quebec local. I don't need to cross broder or flight. Im thinking by July a lot of services will have restarted. First even Legault said it that the province can't remain shut down forever, economy do have to start back. They want to try to avoid any big gathering so yes festival and such won't happy but local business should be re-open by them. Maybe restaurants will go back to the 50% capacity rule. And im pretty sure escort agencies will open back before July... Lots of these girls want to work because they need the cash.
My only concern is the bus/amigo express services, but i may be able to use the old ways i used to do before (facebook group).
Obviously its also linked direct on the providers and if they will work or not by then.
The whole 1 year/1 year and a half of Trudeau ... screw that !! I remember one year ago very well cause its when i started to loose weight. It feels like a LONG TIME AGO. I will not stay confined that long !! I may not control festivals and events or borders but i do control at least myself and i can tell you that ill be seeing family and friends before 1 year... At some point we can't go insane ...
If Covid19 acts like a typical cornavirus I'm hoping it sputters out in another month or two. If we are that fortunate I suspect the things we lost first will comeback first, sports (minus the fans), employment, restaurants with reduced seating, amateur sports like golfing with my buddies, etc. Then last, like we lost last, the freedom to travel across borders and travel via planes. Our border will open up soon after sports begin. The cruise ship industry may never make it back, but that's my own personal opinion. Our lives have changed so rapidly in just 2 months give or take. 2 fucking months, that's all!
We went from being told that we would lose millions, then to hundreds of thousands and to recent scenarios maxing us out at around 60,000 people in the USA alone. A big number, and it is truly a tragedy. But nothing close to what the experts were telling us. In perspective, we will lose the same amount of people to suicide or drug overdose every fucking year.
I'm hoping that the world starts to get "normal" again by the middle of June. It will be weird the first time or two we get back to banging the SP's like we used to. Just think about how much you use Purell or how mind blowing going to the grocery store is. But I think that banging SP's will be the easiest thing to get back to normal. At least I hope it will be for me.
We went from being told that we would lose millions, then to hundreds of thousands and to recent scenarios maxing us out at around 60,000 people in the USA alone. A big number, and it is truly a tragedy. But nothing close to what the experts were telling us. In perspective, we will lose the same amount of people to suicide or drug overdose every fucking year.
I'm hoping that the world starts to get "normal" again by the middle of June. It will be weird the first time or two we get back to banging the SP's like we used to. Just think about how much you use Purell or how mind blowing going to the grocery store is. But I think that banging SP's will be the easiest thing to get back to normal. At least I hope it will be for me.
https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/index.html
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...uicide-canada-key-statistics-infographic.html
waterloo,
the stats are above. The drug overdose while alarming and although it’s tough to say one is more of a threat than the other when comparing to covid-19, I cant say that by you providing rehabilitative therapy to individuals who smoke crack cocaine in a 12 step group could result in you coming home and find your family members smoking crack cocaine. So, there’s a bit of a difference
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...uicide-canada-key-statistics-infographic.html
waterloo,
the stats are above. The drug overdose while alarming and although it’s tough to say one is more of a threat than the other when comparing to covid-19, I cant say that by you providing rehabilitative therapy to individuals who smoke crack cocaine in a 12 step group could result in you coming home and find your family members smoking crack cocaine. So, there’s a bit of a difference
It's an interesting question. Certainly, it has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that a cruise ship is not a pandemic friendly vacation. There can be no assurances that anyone setting foot on a cruise ship will not end up unexpectedly quarantined for weeks, or even months in a strange foreign port city, unable to travel not only to the scheduled ports, but also unable to return home in a timely fashion. It seems to me that a minimum, the cruise ship industry will be out of action a lot longer than anyone else.
I was only using the drug overdose numbers for a comparison. I wasn't comparing the threat level between Covid19 and drug overdose, I was simply pointing out the number of deaths are similar. Just comparing deaths per year, not about 12 step programs or smoking crack. Deaths per year. Also pointing out that there really hasn't been enough public outrage for these numbers. People die from drug overdose and suicide every year, not just 2020 like covid19.
That`s the problem....nobody can figure this out. The ending of this script has not been written yet. Politicians and health care experts are making reactive decisions as they go along....some good some bad and some temporary till a better one comes along . So much we don`t know. Will there be a viable vaccine …..ever. Will the virus peter out or come back every season like the cold or flu. Is there immunity and for how long. Will there be a second and third wave that are worse than the first because of mutations in cv. The only things we know for sure is that that there will be a change both for humanity and nature.
Cloudsurf,
Pretty much your post summarizes the confusion. A lot of people have some expectation that politicians and the medical profession have this figured out and can provide us with answers. They can't. The only thing they know for sure is the economic damage of locking down. They don't know when the lockdown should be stopped or how it should be stopped. These decisions loom as political booby traps for whomever has to make them. Which is why Trump is making drumbeat noise about reopening the country, while knowing full well that the Governors will have to make those difficult decisions as their state's unemployment compensation systems crash from overload. Trump gets to lay back in the weeds and watch as others decide how and when to end quarantine.
Pretty much your post summarizes the confusion. A lot of people have some expectation that politicians and the medical profession have this figured out and can provide us with answers. They can't. The only thing they know for sure is the economic damage of locking down. They don't know when the lockdown should be stopped or how it should be stopped. These decisions loom as political booby traps for whomever has to make them. Which is why Trump is making drumbeat noise about reopening the country, while knowing full well that the Governors will have to make those difficult decisions as their state's unemployment compensation systems crash from overload. Trump gets to lay back in the weeds and watch as others decide how and when to end quarantine.
Patron, There are millions of prayers heading out to Jesus this very minute, begging him to end this plague....but nothing will happen except that hundreds of the faithful who filled churches to-day will have caught covid-19.
If God is eternal then for Him time does not exist …...He is in the present, the past and the future and the only one who knows how this will end.
I`m an agnostic so I don't have a clue, but I certainly would not risk heading out for a take out hamburger that`s been touched by half a dozen hands.
If God is eternal then for Him time does not exist …...He is in the present, the past and the future and the only one who knows how this will end.
I`m an agnostic so I don't have a clue, but I certainly would not risk heading out for a take out hamburger that`s been touched by half a dozen hands.
From what I read, a C-19 infected hamburger would be OK to eat provided it's washed down with a lot of water. What would be a problem is, after touching the infected burger bun, Patron then picks his nose without first using a hand sanitizer. In that situation he would probably get infected. But eating the infected burger not a problem if washed down with plenty of water, because stomach acid will kill the virus.
Fauci Channels Scorcese
Fauci on Monday Morning Quarterbacking: "It is what it is."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...e-to-deflect-question-over-trumps-culpability
Gates: Few Countries Will Get an A Grade on Coronavirus Response:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-5...ies-will-get-a-grade-for-coronavirus-response
What they are saying is that the second guessing of decisions in hindsight really lacks any kind of standard. There is and was no model Covid-19 response. Those who pretend that there was are full of kaka.
Fauci on Monday Morning Quarterbacking: "It is what it is."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/202...e-to-deflect-question-over-trumps-culpability
Gates: Few Countries Will Get an A Grade on Coronavirus Response:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-5...ies-will-get-a-grade-for-coronavirus-response
What they are saying is that the second guessing of decisions in hindsight really lacks any kind of standard. There is and was no model Covid-19 response. Those who pretend that there was are full of kaka.
Arkansas Approach Working, Says Governor
Here the Arkansas Governor claims success with a "targeted approach" rather than blanket stay at home orders:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/12/poli...ay-at-home-order-coronavirus-cnntv/index.html
Here the Arkansas Governor claims success with a "targeted approach" rather than blanket stay at home orders:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/12/poli...ay-at-home-order-coronavirus-cnntv/index.html
Fauci has also recently said that there is a possibility of a resurgence of the virus in late fall...pending on what we do NOW and what we LEARN we could drastically reduce the severity of such a reocurence...scary.
Think about it people. Think outside of the box and on a grand scale.
How could nature restore equilibrium and balance back on this planet as brilliantly as its doing now. This virus is like a neutron bomb....killing humans but not harming the rest of the planet.
Earth was in crisis mode . Overpopulation , climate change, extinction of species at an alarming rate, runaway pollution and destructions of the oceans. A solution that doesn`t do more damage to the ecosystem had to be found.
Nature brought us a half dead, yet highly contagious and deadly virus that couldn`t reproduce without a human host. It may sicken up to 50% of the world population in wave after wave over the next several years unless some type of vaccine is found ….not a given.
In the long run humanity will be better off than before and our great grandchildren who will inherit a cleaner and healthier planet will thank us for our sacrifice.
How could nature restore equilibrium and balance back on this planet as brilliantly as its doing now. This virus is like a neutron bomb....killing humans but not harming the rest of the planet.
Earth was in crisis mode . Overpopulation , climate change, extinction of species at an alarming rate, runaway pollution and destructions of the oceans. A solution that doesn`t do more damage to the ecosystem had to be found.
Nature brought us a half dead, yet highly contagious and deadly virus that couldn`t reproduce without a human host. It may sicken up to 50% of the world population in wave after wave over the next several years unless some type of vaccine is found ….not a given.
In the long run humanity will be better off than before and our great grandchildren who will inherit a cleaner and healthier planet will thank us for our sacrifice.
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