COVID's vaccine, by whom, when, effective? all around the vaccine

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^^^^^^ You wonder? Come on! I guess you are talking about the present administration. It did a great job organizing the vaccine distribution but you know: One can bring a horse to the water but no one can force it to drink. if you want shoot a target, chose the right one. Living in denial does not change reality.

 

[Fradi]

Living in denial does not change reality.

You see somehow I knew you would understand.
Perhaps you should change the horse that is leading, you would then have a better chance at finding water.
I would not want to refer to him as a horses ass but there are approved vaccines by the millions, now why is it that he can’t keep his promises, yeah I know it is not his fault lol.

 

[Fradi]

Or you could give the power to doctors to prescribe a vaccination shot to kids under 12 based on the judgement of the doctor and consultation with parents. Of course, you need tort reform, which we never seem to get in the U.S.

It would likely save a lot of lives in comparison to waiting for studies and the FDA to move.

I simply don’t think government does anything here. The vaccines were developed by good companies. I would trust the opinion of their scientists as to which children the vaccine is safe for.

Perhaps you need some kind of Warp Speed approach, no that was only good once, it probably saved millions of lives around the world but who is counting right .
The main thing is now we have an administration that will heap study upon study while kids are getting sick.
It must be so comforting to know that red tape is back in style and here to stay again.

 

[gaby]

^^^^^^^^ Il faut cependant reconnaître que, depuis longtemps, les populations asiatiques ont adopté le port du masque, dans les transports en commun entre autres, lorsque la situation l'exige. Que ce soit contre les contaminations par les virus et bactéries ou contre les particules en suspension dans l'air dû à la pollution, ils adoptent spontanément le masque lorsque approprié. Nous devrions suivre cet exemple dans les années à venir. En tout cas, je le ferai.

Bien d'accord...belle sagesse--prudence à adopter.....faudra s'y faire....la vie ne sera plus jamais la même IMHO.....surtout pour ceux--qui comme moi--sommes plus vulnérables....et cela vaudra aussi pour une certaine distanciation. à conserver........

 

[gaby]

^^^^^^ You wonder? Come on! I guess you are talking about the present administration. It did a great job organizing the vaccine distribution but you know: One can bring a horse to the water but no one can force it to drink. if you want shoot a target, chose the right one. Living in denial does not change reality.

..surtout quand certains Gouverneurs et Sénateurs irresponsables s'en mêlent...au risque de faire déborder les hôpitaux comme c'est le cas et de multiplier les décès.

 

[Fradi]

..surtout quand certains Gouverneurs et Sénateurs irresponsables s'en mêlent...au risque de faire déborder les hôpitaux comme c'est le cas et de multiplier les décès.

What happened to the buck stops at the Presidency, guess it depends who the President is.
There was no qualms about blaming the previous ass hole when he fucked up, why the two tier system?
Yep, evil Republicans again lol. Guess this forgetfulness is more contagious than covid.

 

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You see somehow I knew you would understand.
Perhaps you should change the horse that is leading, you would then have a better chance at finding water.
I would not want to refer to him as a horses ass but there are approved vaccines by the millions, now why is it that he can’t keep his promises, yeah I know it is not his fault lol.

You got it wrong... in this moto, the horse is the citizen who got offered water (the vaccine) and refused to drink (take the vaccine). A lot of those horses even fought and are still fighting against drinking the provided water (taking the vaccine and/or wearing mask). Stop the "blame game" and go out to promote vaccination that is what should be done now in USA.

 

[Fradi]

No you should put the blame squarely on shoulders of the asshole in chief in charge right now and stop with all the excuses and horse shit if you will pardon the pun. He is the one that made promises of a certain percentage of people being vaccinated by a certain date.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Ye tard mais demain ma checker ca parce que ca m'interesse

 

[gallantca]

No you should put the blame squarely on shoulders of the asshole in chief in charge right now and stop with all the excuses and horse shit if you will pardon the pun. He is the one that made promises of a certain percentage of people being vaccinated by a certain date.

If you were him, what would you have done to get more people to accept vaccination ?

For one I would have pushed to end the "emergency use" label.

 

[cloudsurf]

A third shot is coming soon....very soon. Those who don`t have any shots are going to be even more isolated and in danger of ending in the hospital.

 

[gaby]

Yes.... US recommend third booster shots after 8 month fully vaccinated for vulnerable populations such as heath workers and old populations + 65.......am sure we will do the same here soon.

 

[Fradi]

I was thinking of getting one anyway.
You can get one simply by walking in to a vaccination sight and saying that you need it for travelling because you have a mixed dose right now, no questions asked.
Only problem for me is then I would have a mixed dose of three vaccines, Covishield ( even though it is identical to AZ not all countries recognize it as such ) AZ and third would be Pfizer.

 

[sene5hos]

Ohio’s vaccine lottery saved more than $60m in averted healthcare costs

Cash prizes encouraged tens of thousands of people to get jabbed, avoiding nearly 5,000 days in ICU

www.economist.com

It's very interesting.

 

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But if he/she is an international air traveler, and tests positive for the bad cold outside the U.S. while traveling abroad but in the process of trying to return to the U.S., he/she gets detained in the foreign country until the bad cold goes away.

Their is not such a test for a bad cold. Stop playing with words. A COVID test is perform. Nobody is detained in foreign countries. First they are forbidden to take the plane by US authorities and second they should quarantine. Then, if they want to take an other plane to enter USA, they have to test negative to COVID. All this because what you call a "cold" is not a "cold" and because of the COVID delta variant which is highly contagious and more severe than the original virus from 1 year ago. Get informed and stop this propaganda that is misleading people. You will not convince anybody but yourself and some followers who don't give a sh... about the truth.

 

[Fradi]

Playing with words lol
So nobody is detained they are just quarantined and forbidden to go outside.
Strange how some people put themselves up on a pedestal and whole heartedly believe their version of things is the truth.
I don’t think they can actually handle the truth or someone claiming a different version of the truth than theirs.

 

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Playing with words lol
So nobody is detained they are just quarantined and forbidden to go outside.
Strange how some people put themselves up on a pedestal and whole heartedly believe their version of things is the truth.
I don’t think they can actually handle the truth or someone claiming a different version of the truth than theirs.

^^^^^^ I suppose those are "alternate facts" as defined by a former advisor on the previous administration.

 

[Fradi]

^^^^^^ I suppose those are "alternate facts" as defined by a former advisor on the previous administration.

Now you are being funny lol.

 

[gaby]

QUÉBEC....today conf. de presse LEGAULT -DUBÉ.....good new 85% des personnes éligibles ont recu une première dose----impressionnant---et les 2 visent 80% d'ici 2 semaines avec les 2 doses....ce serait excellent MAIS selon LEGAULT le variant DELTA --plus
contagieux et sévère....a changé la donne.....faut donc encore inviter plus de citoyens à se faire vacciner pour la 1ère dose et inviter les autres à devancer leur 2ème dose avant Septembre.....ARRUDA parle même aujourd'hui de viser 95% pour les fully
vaccinated.
Selon LEGAULT la 4ème vague s'installe et forcera encore plus d'hospitalisation.....alors vivement la vaccination.

 

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It might not affect you, but it does harm a hell of a lot of people, particularly in the travel and tourism industries, which will not recover until the vaccinated are permitted to travel without the possibility of having to be quarantined with a positive test.

Death is the ultimate disaster but we also should note that about 25% of hospitalized people have what is called "long COVID'. Some can more or less recuperate within 6-9 months of different symptoms from lost of taste and smell, extreme fatigue, not able to walk more than a few minutes difficulties to breath, etc. For others they have symptoms similar to chronic Lyme disease or even fibromyalgie. So it is about time to cease thinking that if you get out (survive) of the hospital you are all right. Being tested, even if fully vaccinated, does make sense because, again, no vaccine is 100% efficient and it is for yours and the public protection. The only way to ensure this public protection is through quarantine. For travelers, it also allow monitoring of new variant being imported. The threat to economy and tourism is the contamination, not the tests. Vaccination and tests are both essential for all economic activity including tourism.

And by the way, it does affect me but I'm happy to contribute. I'm fully vaccinated since june. I have to go outside Canada by airplane in a few weeks. I will get tested within 72 hours before getting on the plane and when I will arrive to Canada. If unexpectedly I tested positive then, my quarantine plan is all set. We have to get through this pandemic together!

COVID-19 and Your Health

Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.

www.cdc.gov