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Anti-vaccine Deputy District Attorney Kelly Ernby, a Republican who ran for California State Assembly, has died of COVID-19 at age 46.

Two years later when they know the risk to others and themselves.

I'm all out of sympathy and empathy.

Life’s about choices. She didn’t choose wisely and put others at risk as well.

Hard to feel bad for her as she was warned and then not only ignored it by tried to get others to as well.
 

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Anti-vaccine Deputy District Attorney Kelly Ernby, a Republican who ran for California State Assembly, has died of COVID-19 at age 46.

Two years later when they know the risk to others and themselves.

I'm all out of sympathy and empathy.

Life’s about choices. She didn’t choose wisely and put others at risk as well.

Hard to feel bad for her as she was warned and then not only ignored it by tried to get others to as well.

I understand dying for a cause, a religion, a country or for love (e.g. children, loved ones).

But what are these people dying for???? It's so stupid. It just fucking baffles me.
 

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I understand dying for a cause, a religion, a country or for love (e.g. children, loved ones).

But what are these people dying for???? It's so stupid. It just fucking baffles me.
Freedom of choice is a cause. From what I could understand, She is not anti vaccine, but anti vaccine mandate. Unfortunately, most of the major media are in the Vaccine mandate tunnel, and as such focus on those people and twist their messages. You can call her a foul, or whatever you want, but she did live by what she believed in.
The difference between anti vaccine and anti vaccine mandate is huge. The Anti vaccine in general (not this specific one), are either conspiracy theorist, or strong believers of natural remedies and spiritual ones. She believed in HER RIGHT TO CHOOSE, which in this case, involves the right to choose not to get vaccinated. It is a cause worth fighting for, as it seems lots of people have lost sight of that. Maybe when the fear of dying from COVID is less dramatic, people will realize the sacrifice these people have made to remind us of our freedom to choose. The mandates and this ridiculing the others are some of the main causes that lots of people, including myself have refused to Vaccinate. Seeing how the Vaccine has failed to stop the Pandemic, it is starting to look as the right decision, but we still need some time to really understand it better.
 

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Anti-vaccine Deputy District Attorney Kelly Ernby, a Republican who ran for California State Assembly, has died of COVID-19 at age 46.
Definitely a lot of anti vaxxers dying of covid.
Could be selective reporting?
The Hill is a leftist publication:

'Huge, huge numbers:' insurance group sees death rates up ...

Something is killing.
Die of Covid.
Die with Covid.
Vax failure?

This commentator does use great analogies.
Earlier it was arrows whizzing by and a suit of armour will reduce risk of injury.
Now the winter n all season tire analogy being that winter tires reduce risk of sliding off snowy roads.
Then you leave the vax clinic with winter tires and get T-boned by an unvaxxed driver with all season tires in the snow.

Statistical bell curves are found through out nature and there are many ways to die, covid19 included.
This is normal deterministic behaviour of death.

But the ad at the end??? Oh yea what is this??
BLUECHEW?? A mix of viagra and cialis??
Use code PAKMAN at bluechew.com
Did you order? hehe
Support the cause!!!
Can't argue against that one.

Edit....Maybe that was a targeted ad for me. Anyone else get it?
 
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Anti-vaccine Deputy District Attorney Kelly Ernby, a Republican who ran for California State Assembly, has died of COVID-19 at age 46.
I always feel sorry for the loss of any life. I feel even more sorry for the medical staff who have to fight to keep people alive, at risk to their own lives and mental health.

It’s just frustrating when much of this is preventable and I resent those who deliberately spread disinformation.
 

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This compilation of data from Alberta is a slam dunk for the effectiveness of vaccines:


Age group, Unvaxxed, admitted to ICU (per 100K)
12-29: 39
30-39: 84
40-49: 201

3 dose vaxxed, admitted to ICU (per 100K)
60-69: 0.84
70-79: 1.15
80+: 2.03

So if you're unvaxxed & in the 30-39 age group, you're 73x more likely to end up in the ICU than a boosted senior in the 70-79 age group. Amazing.
 
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sene5hos

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Italian anti-vaccine leader Luigi Marilli has died of COVID.

They aren't dying from covid they're dying from willful ignorance.

No controversy here. These people cost lives.

If someone changes their behavior based on these consequences, we have to call it out.

Much compassion to those left behind by those sucked into the world of antivax.

I have sympathy for people who lack the ability to determine what is true.
 

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Italian anti-vaccine leader Luigi Marilli has died of COVID.

They aren't dying from covid they're dying from willful ignorance.

No controversy here. These people cost lives.

If someone changes their behavior based on these consequences, we have to call it out.

Much compassion to those left behind by those sucked into the world of antivax.

I have sympathy for people who lack the ability to determine what is true.
And why you are so concerned? You can play Grandpa with your Grandkids. If the anti-vaxxers want to be ignorant that is their choice to make just as smokers decide to keep on smoking knowing the health consequences. You act you care about those lives but that is just fake compassion (you are frightened of covid and you expect everyone to sacrifice their liberties to make yourself feel better. [...]. In addition you throw dirt on those that died for not being vaccinated (more evidence of your fake compassion). Do you not care for all the lives lost from pollution? From poverty? From congenial violence? From smoking? Why covid takes the number one priority? Because the government said so?
 
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Unvaccinated Czech singer Hana Horak deliberately got herself infected with COVID, and has died of COVID.

Now her family is grieving, and the worst thing about it was that it didn’t need to happen. She brought all of this unnecessary grief on her family.

“Stupidity cannot be cured. Stupidity is the only universal capital crime, the sentence is death.

Such a tragic story. What a cruel thing to happen to a spouse and son. Makes no sense to take such risks.
 

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Do you not care for all the lives lost from pollution? From poverty? From congenial violence? From smoking? Why covid takes the number one priority? Because the government said so?
I apologize, but I add my contribution.

Pollution, read my comments in the climate change thread.

Every year I donate money to "Entraide", Mira and for the Blind.

I don't smoke.

Why covid takes the number one priority? Because COVID has killed millions of people, and continues to kill.

And I'm not a "yes man"
 

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I apologize, but I add my contribution.

Pollution, read my comments in the climate change thread.

Every year I donate money to "Entraide", Mira and for the Blind.

I don't smoke.

Why covid takes the number one priority? Because COVID has killed millions of people, and continues to kill.

And I'm not a "yes man"
Sure you do. I do not believe you. But you do you and let others do what they want. And you are a yes man based on your posts. You who claims to be a scientist (I do not believe that either) pollution has killed more then covid and continues to kill. Look it up. Smoking has killed many also and continues to kill. But only covid matters to you because the government made it their priority (they turned it into about politics). Many died waiting for life saving cancer surgery because the government was incompetetant to manage and expand the healthcare even after the first wave nothing changed, they made covid patients priority because to the government ppl only die of covid. And you say you are not a "yes man".
 
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Italian anti-vaccine leader Luigi Marilli has died of COVID.

They aren't dying from covid they're dying from willful ignorance.

No controversy here. These people cost lives.

If someone changes their behavior based on these consequences, we have to call it out.

Much compassion to those left behind by those sucked into the world of antivax.

I have sympathy for people who lack the ability to determine what is true.

Italian anti-vaccine leader Luigi Marilli has died of COVID.

They aren't dying from covid they're dying from willful ignorance.

No controversy here. These people cost lives.

If someone changes their behavior based on these consequences, we have to call it out.

Much compassion to those left behind by those sucked into the world of antivax.

I have sympathy for people who lack the ability to determine what is true.
It is hard to see you as part of the solution when you’re posting negative stuff about people who died…
 

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Sure you do. I do not believe you. But you do you and let others do what they want. And you are a yes man based on your posts. You who claims to be a scientist (I do not believe that either) pollution has killed more then covid and continues to kill. Look it up. Smoking has killed many also and continues to kill. But only covid matters to you because the government made it their priority (they turned it into about politics). Many died waiting for life saving cancer surgery because the government was incompetetant to manage and expand the healthcare even after the first wave nothing changed, they made covid patients priority because to the government ppl only die of covid. And you say you are not a "yes man".
You can't stand not having the last word.
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Unfortunately for you, I worked in the two most important research centers in Quebec, including that of the Jewish General Hospital (Lady Davis Institute).
I met Dr. Karl Weiss, who is Full Clinical Professor, Faculty of Medicine - Department of Microbiology, Infectiology and Immunology, Mc Gill University

Expertise:
Study of infections in patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
Epidemiological study of the bacterial resistance of respiratory pathogens in Quebec.
Molecular analysis of S. pneumoniae resistance to macrolides and fluoroquinolones.
Clinical implications of bacterial resistance.
Clinical trials in respiratory infections.
Clostridium difficile infections.
 
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CLOUD 500

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You can't stand not having the last word.
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Unfortunately for you, I worked in the two most important research centers in Quebec, including that of the Jewish General Hospital (Lady Davis Institute).
I met Dr. Karl Weiss, who is Full Clinical Professor, Faculty of Medicine - Department of Microbiology, Infectiology and Immunology, Mc Gill University

Expertise:
Study of infections in patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
Epidemiological study of the bacterial resistance of respiratory pathogens in Quebec.
Molecular analysis of S. pneumoniae resistance to macrolides and fluoroquinolones.
Clinical implications of bacterial resistance.
Clinical trials in respiratory infections.
Clostridium difficile infections.
[...] A true scientist questions science. You still have not answered my queries. So tell me why only covid matters to you? More people died of air pollution. Many died of smoking. They do not matter to you? Only covid. The fact the hospitals are overwhelmed is it the fault of the unvaccinated? Why because the government said so. Did you bother to do any research at all? Why was healthcare not expanded? They had 21 months to prepare. You claim to have worked in the research center of the Jewish General Hospital. Explain it. In fact the ratio of beds to the total populations has shrunk by a third since the 80s. Explain it why the government is innocent given all these facts (all stats available on the internet). Why must everyone loose their liberties to make yourself feel safe? If you feel so scared you can lock yourself up and wear a gas mask. Are you still seeing escorts? Which I am sure you are. Explain it to me in your own words. You are not authentic at all.
 
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[...] A true scientist questions science. You still have not answered my queries. So tell me why only covid matters to you? More people died of air pollution. Many died of smoking. They do not matter to you? Only covid. The fact the hospitals are overwhelmed is it the fault of the unvaccinated? Why because the government said so. Did you bother to do any research at all? Why was healthcare not expanded? They had 21 months to prepare. You claim to have worked in the research center of the Jewish General Hospital. Explain it. In fact the ratio of beds to the total populations has shrunk by a third since the 80s. Explain it why the government is innocent given all these facts (all stats available on the internet). Why must everyone loose their liberties to make yourself feel safe? If you feel so scared you can lock yourself up and wear a gas mask. Are you still seeing escorts? Which I am sure you are. Explain it to me in your own words. You are not authentic at all.
You just gave me proof of what I said.

I can't change an entire healthcare system.

I still protested to the authorities of the CHSLD, the way my mother had been treated.
 

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