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EagerBeaver

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That is what the Montreal Canadiens thought after 1/8 of the season last year, hell they thought that after almost HALF the season :pound:

That was because Price got hurt. It's not happening with the Rangers. They are very deep and not relying on one stud player so much. They are a team of very good players and very good role players. The reason why Grabner is having success is because Rangers paired him with guys of like skills and they just play smart and capitalize on mistakes. The coaches are allowing Grabner to be himself. They, the Grabner line, understand mistakes and what to do when they happen. You win with guys like this on your secondary lines.
 

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EB it was more about the psyche of the team than just one stud goalie. The Canadiens FOUND ways to lose because there was so much stuff going on between their ears. The team psychologist should have been fired if he wasn't.
 

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EB it was more about the psyche of the team than just one stud goalie. The Canadiens FOUND ways to lose because there was so much stuff going on between their ears. The team psychologist should have been fired if he wasn't.

Igna the habs were and are still quite an average team without price. They are a bit better this year with the few addition, but Price is stealing games (the last 2 against Toronto and Vancouver, they were dominated).

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The point was the canadiens rely too much on Price and had they played more as of a "team" last year, they would have still made the playoffs, just barely maybe but still. They lost Price and freaked out and the same thing could happen this year but with Weber and some vets now along with Radulov i doubt that happens if price were to go down again. Pro sports is as much between the ears as the talent.
 

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It all comes down to chemistry and whether it is a team or a collection of individuals trying to fit in as opposed to working as a cohesive unit. In hockey, you have to have line combinations that work and compliment one another. Right now the Rangers are demonstrating a very good cohesion.They just need to build on it.

As far as the Habs talent, I kind of agee with jalimon that the Habs last year were nothing special without Price. They don't have a lot of dynamic offensive players, more of the grinder type guys who are great if you need to grind out 1-0 and 2-1 games with your stud goalie behind them, but are not consistent enough to sustain offense over a long period of time without goalie help. And so the team collapsed. Now they have Radulov and a few other guys who make them a little bit better. Weber adds a dimension that Subban did not - he is a huge hitter who instills fear in opposing players that there will be terrible pain if they skate past the blue line. With that fear instilled, the defense in front of Price has gone up a notch as guys do not come barrelling down the center if they value their heads. It's like the hard hitting safety in football who instill fear into WRs trying to run a slant pattern in his secondary, if those WRs try and stretch out for a pass they are gonna take a serious lick and maybe not come up right away. Same deal with Weber, it's the fear deal. The NHL has not yet adjusted although it appears Weber can be beaten with speed, you just need courage on the fast skates and not everyone has the biggest pair of testicles hanging between his legs.

The margin between good and bad in most pro sports is not that great. If a team's balance is upset by a few injuries a freefall can happen to almost anyone in these cap balanced sports leagues.
 

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A touchdown and a safety so far in Columbus Ohio tonight and the crowd is chanting 'We want TEN! :pound:
 

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What the crowd wants the crowd gets!! The safety was called back and Columbus kicked a field goal! 10-0!!!

Anyone seen GHG? :pound:
A touchdown and a safety so far in Columbus Ohio tonight and the crowd is chanting 'We want TEN! :pound:
 

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Al Montoya gave up all 10 goals on 40 shots. My goodness!

And he was left in the net. As Igna mentionned in the Trumped thread, can't beleive it! Find me a coach that would leave his goaltender in the net for a 10 nothing game! This will be a turning point, Therrien as to go, now, fast, out, Please!!!!

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And he was left in the net. As Igna mentionned in the Trumped thread, can't beleive it! Find me a coach that would leave his goaltender in the net for a 10 nothing game! This will be a turning point, Therrien as to go, now, fast, out, Please!!!!

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I never before heard of an NHL goalie being left in to allow 10 goals, is it a record?
 

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That was because Price got hurt. It's not happening with the Rangers.

Sure, Price got hurt. But it doesn't explain why every player stopped scoring goals. The problem with the habs last season wasn't goaltending. It was a total lack of goal-scoring.
 

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but with Weber and some vets now along with Radulov i doubt that happens if price were to go down again

Weber may prove to be as important as Price this season. If he goes down, not only would they lose their best defenceman, but they'd be losing one of their true leaders.

But i don't get all the lovefest in regards to Radulov. He's only got 2 goals. He's been a cancer on every team he's played on so far. I doubt he's changed that much. What likely keeps him in line so far is Shea Webber, who played with him in Nashville. Playing alongside Alex Galchenyuk has also made him look very good. But again, he's only got two goals.

By the way, i believe it's Andrei Markov's last season with the habs and it wouldn't surprise me if it's the same situation for Tomas Plekanec, Max Pacioretty and David Desharnais.
 

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Just caught the end of the Oilers/wings game in deadtroit and the young Oilers won again. I was thinking "maybe, just maybe they are a very good team or at least on their way to something good this season aka playoffs" but then i caught myself and realised who they just beat, the lowly detroit dead things so i dialed back on just how good the GEO (for you salty) might very well be. I do however believe they are trending upwards. I think there will be many exciting games between the Leafs and Oilers in the next several seasons.
 

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Just caught the end of the Oilers/wings game in deadtroit and the young Oilers won again. I was thinking "maybe, just maybe they are a very good team or at least on their way to something good this season aka playoffs" but then i caught myself and realised who they just beat, the lowly detroit dead things so i dialed back on just how good the GEO (for you salty) might very well be. I do however believe they are trending upwards. I think there will be many exciting games between the Leafs and Oilers in the next several seasons.


Hey win is a win, do not care if it a 15 yr old girls ringette team. Too bad they only play each other twice a year ( Oilers/leafs )
 

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Anyone notice that there were two more 5 goal explosions by the Rangers, last night at Boston and tonight 5 more against the Jets and we are not out of the second period yet. The Rangers are on fire!
 

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Didn't the league go back to smaller goalie equipment this season? Scoring is back in the league in a big way and it is good for the game.

Anyone notice that there were two more 5 goal explosions by the Rangers, last night at Boston and tonight 5 more against the Jets and we are not out of the second period yet. The Rangers are on fire!
 

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All the teams are playing with the same rules and equipment, and the Rangers currently lead the NHL in goals by a significant margin. Let's not denigrate their accomplishment.
 
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