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That was not the answer to the question i asked. Does anyone know if the smaller goalie equipment was mandatory for this season or not? If so that helps to explain why the scoring is up league wide. Too busy right now to google for the answer. ;)

All the teams are playing with the same rules and equipment, and the Rangers currently lead the NHL in goals by a significant margin. Let's not denigrate their accomplishment.
 

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That was not the answer to the question i asked. Does anyone know if the smaller goalie equipment was mandatory for this season or not? If so that helps to explain why the scoring is up league wide. Too musy right now to google for the answer. ;)

Sorry that your are too musy right now :)

No the change are expected for 2017-1018 season.

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Thanks guys, just seems like there are a lot of high scoring games so far but maybe that is usual early in the season, but been several 10 goal games it seems already, why even one team had TEN scored against them!
 

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Didn't the league go back to smaller goalie equipment this season? Scoring is back in the league in a big way and it is good for the game.

No, they didn't. The goaltending equipment issue was pushed up to next year. Most observers don't believe the league will be able to do anything due to a safety issue. For example, a goalie getting seriously injured would have ammunition to sue the league if he & his doctors claim he would have been fine had the league left the goalie equipment 'as is'. The NHL hates getting sued and is already facing a huge lawsuit against former players in regards to head trauma issues.
 

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I was told the goals are a little bigger this year, not shure thou

Nope, that's another falsehood. The nets are the same size. However, maybe it's time to consider making them bigger. Take a look at old hockey tapes and the goalies look like peewees compared to today. And the net sizes are still the same today as they were back then.
 

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I was told the goals are a little bigger this year, not shure tho

A few years ago I wrote a letter to the NHL suggesting that they widen nets by 6-10 inches to offset excessive goalie padding. My suggestions were not exactly greeted with glowing enthusiasm.

I still feel such a rule change would be appropriate but resistance would be significant from goalies, coaches and it potentially would impact on lower levels of hockey so it would have to be a uniform rule change.

My philosophy is that the original nets were constructed for smaller goalies wearing much less equipment and possessing far less athleticism. Now you have well padded guys who are much more athletic and they as a result can make more saves at a higher percentage than some of the fat, beer guzzling goalies of the 1950s and 1960s. While goalies and their union will resist the change, it will make the game better as it will put a premium on fit, athletic goalies who can move around inside the net and reduce the dominance of goalies who are not so athletic and rely on playing angles and technique. I would prefer seeing acrobatic saves over proper technique.

Lastly goalies are not only more athletic but also much bigger. The nets were built for the fat 5'8" or 5'9" goalies of yesteryear. It isn't yesteryear anymore. It's 2016 and we should have goal nets with a width that corresponds to the size of these gorillas in the net. There are a couple of goalies in the league now who are over 6'5", and they are unfairly using their size as opposed to movement to obstruct. Let's see these guys have to really move to make some saves. I hope the change is made soon.
 

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Here's what the power rankings say about the Leafs:

19. (29) Toronto Maple Leafs, 5-4-3

The Leafs' underlying stats suggested their slow start wasn't really reflective of their overall play -- and now they're getting wins to back that up. The NHL's youngest team is riding consecutive victories, with visiting Los Angeles next up on the docket Tuesday night.


I'd say it's a pretty accurate statement.
 

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The Leafs are an interesting team with a great future if they can somehow find a really good goalie. I am not sold on Freddie Anderson being anything more than a placeholder until they can find someone beter.

The core group of Matthews, Marner and Nylander remind me of Bossy, Trottier and Gillies all coming up together with the NY Islanders as young players.

Edmonton also has great young talent.
 

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I think the Leafs have to tank again, it is.impossible to acheive the aim without.suffering...
 

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tiga;[URL="tel:1012588" said:
1012588[/URL]]I think the Leafs have to tank again, it is.impossible to acheive the aim without.suffering...

shoot! dont you think they have sufferred enough already? one playoff in 10 years...

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Here's what the power rankings say about the Leafs:

Weekly power ranking mean very little, a team does good for a couple of games, big deal. What I look at is their overall standings, goals/shots per game, goals/shots against per game and not per week..overall plus last 10 games stats. Until the first 25 games are done I do not care how well a team does ( look at the GEO and see how well they started for a couple of seasons and tanked ). I read in the paper today that the norm is that most of the teams that are in playoff standings after the Grey Cup / Cupe de Grey are in the finals, never checked that stats just read it at the pub today. Two teams I am impressed with so far are the GEO ( on paper they should have been playing this well years ago ), Habs ( Did not think that even with Price back they would be doing this well ) and the Rangers ( scoring powerhouse ).
 

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I think the top 8 teams in the power rankings by ESPN are in fact the 8 best teams at the moment. After that it's a huge tossup over the next 15 spots or 9-23 or so.

Of course the rankings will change but they are important to let us know where at a given point in time the teams stack up.

The Rangers have to be characterized as a surprise team so far because frankly not very much was expected of them. It was even thought by some that they peaked out last year and are now in a transitional phase. Otherwise in the east the Caps and Penguins looks very powerful, the Lightning perhaps a notch below. In the west the top teams look like Chicago and St. Louis.
 

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The Leafs are an interesting team with a great future if they can somehow find a really good goalie. I am not sold on Freddie Anderson being anything more than a placeholder until they can find someone beter.

I disagree. The Leafs have put all their chips in when they signed Andersen to a big five-year contract. He's their 'goaltender-of-the-future'. They'll live & die with Andersen between the pipes.
 

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Jacob Trouba signs for 2-years/$6 million

He and the Jets finally came to an agreement. Trouba & his agent realized that the Jets were willing to wait it out. Trouba has now announced through his agent that he's rescinded his demand to be traded and wants to play in Winnipeg for the next two seasons.

Which is bullshit and likely means he'll get traded. By not saying this, it would have made it nearly impossible for the Jets to be able to trade him since it would have tied their hands up and other teams would have tried to take advantage of this (and still might). Just like Ottawa a few years ago when they practically gave up high-scoring winger Dany Heatley.

Trouba would be a great fit on the young Maple Leafs team in need of a young defenceman with unlimited potential. They're also in different conferences, which is a bonus. But what would it cost the Leafs?
 

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I disagree. The Leafs have put all their chips in when they signed Andersen to a big five-year contract. He's their 'goaltender-of-the-future'. They'll live & die with Andersen between the pipes.

The Leafs will be a good team in the near future but they change their goalie mare than any team and will continue to do so.
 

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The Leafs will be a good team in the near future but they change their goalie mare than any team and will continue to do so.

Sounds like the Oilers of the past. But i agree with you. But the fact Andersen is signed to a big 5-year contract has trumped everything you just said with your 'continue to do so' comment. People were saying the same thing about the Oilers but i believe they'll go with Cam Talbot for at least a couple of years more.
 
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