Hi Rumples,
You are absolutely correct about EB...he has baseball intelligence and I do respect that.
Have fun,
Jman
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The Official MERB 2010 Baseball Thread.
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Hi Rumples,
You are absolutely correct about EB...he has baseball intelligence and I do respect that.
Have fun,
Jman
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i see someone still has his red sox blinders on, typical and totally expected. Why is it as soon as i post, you like my little lapdog, are right there to post a reply, dont worry, I know the reason, lol.
I find it funny of you red sox homers want things to stay on course with baseball talk, yet you and your "gang" are the first to take it off course when you cant handle a positive about the Empire.... so typical of red sox fans in general, see that is the stereotype the "nation" has built for itself over the years, thus, we sit back, let you rant to make yourselves feel better, throw in a quick jab here and there, then watch the "gang" escalde it into a larger than life cry fest about "why this" and "why that" .... you guys do make for a good comedy team tho, i think you should be at the Just for Laughs Festival in Montreal, probably too late to get a invite this year but hey, there is always next year!
Ok Jman, good boy, respond in 1 minute, ready? set? go!!!!! (have a blast, got work to do so i can be back to my pad in a few days)
Hello Mods,
Do I need to tolerate this personal attack? I as much about fun as the next guy, but to be called a lapdog?
I have better things to do.
Just curious,
Jman
the river is getting wider and deeper 
,ok jman, i have edited my original post since it seems you think a lapdog is a personal attack... but i still think you should edit the nasty things you have somehow gotten away with, like calling someone Ignorant, a F**king Moron and a Idiot on several occassions, both you and your red sox Gang, those are totally classless btw. Anyways i hope you accept my apologies for the lapdog comment. as a good gesture, i found a sweet pic that i am sure everyone can agree is as harmless as anything could ever be.
,ok jman, i have edited my original post since it seems you think a lapdog is a personal attack... but i still think you should edit the nasty things you have somehow gotten away with, like calling someone Ignorant, a F**king Moron and a Idiot on several occassions, both you and your red sox Gang, those are totally classless btw. Anyways i hope you accept my apologies for the lapdog comment. as a good gesture, i found a sweet pic that i am sure everyone can agree is as harmless as anything could ever be.
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Hello kiddies,
Obviously i have been busy with more important matters on MERB to check how the kindergarten class was doing. I would advise everyone to do some editing of personal attacks and insults before I have to do it myself and send some children to stand in the corner for a week or two.
Or I could just shut the thread down until the World Series starts. Your choice.
Mod 8
EDIT: By the way...I said that Official threads should also be kept clean with a minimum of flames. Referring to another member as a 'lapdog' qualifies as a flame.
Obviously i have been busy with more important matters on MERB to check how the kindergarten class was doing. I would advise everyone to do some editing of personal attacks and insults before I have to do it myself and send some children to stand in the corner for a week or two.
Or I could just shut the thread down until the World Series starts. Your choice.
Mod 8
EDIT: By the way...I said that Official threads should also be kept clean with a minimum of flames. Referring to another member as a 'lapdog' qualifies as a flame.
yes if you check the time you will see i was posting as mod8 was writing his/her response as well, i have since edited.. having fun!
Hello All,
Mod 8 thank you for your attempt to restore some order.
Lgna69xxx - grow up. EVERYONE can see you for what you are. Big men behind the keyboard are usually compensating. Well, not at my expense. Try to spin it anyway you want. Your comments were meant to be flames and to attempt to publicly degrade me and to elicit a negative reaction. It frankly is all you know how to do because as you have displayed you lack knowledge on the subjects at hand.
Merlot, Rumples, Eagerbeaver, SK, Doc and others - I have enjoyed your banter, good natured ribbing and exchange of worthwhile sports information. However, if this board will continue to allow an adolescent minded, immature, childish ranting member to post as he has then someone has to be an adult and just say enough. His history of behaving poorly is clear. We have all commented on it. I refuse to participate in it anymore. I would respect anyone of you who choose to do the same. Its not about the heat being to hot in the kitchen...its about drawing a line in the sand and saying I am tired of the sorry antics, excuses and behavior.
Disgusted,
Jman
Mod 8 thank you for your attempt to restore some order.
Lgna69xxx - grow up. EVERYONE can see you for what you are. Big men behind the keyboard are usually compensating. Well, not at my expense. Try to spin it anyway you want. Your comments were meant to be flames and to attempt to publicly degrade me and to elicit a negative reaction. It frankly is all you know how to do because as you have displayed you lack knowledge on the subjects at hand.
Merlot, Rumples, Eagerbeaver, SK, Doc and others - I have enjoyed your banter, good natured ribbing and exchange of worthwhile sports information. However, if this board will continue to allow an adolescent minded, immature, childish ranting member to post as he has then someone has to be an adult and just say enough. His history of behaving poorly is clear. We have all commented on it. I refuse to participate in it anymore. I would respect anyone of you who choose to do the same. Its not about the heat being to hot in the kitchen...its about drawing a line in the sand and saying I am tired of the sorry antics, excuses and behavior.
Disgusted,
Jman
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i think you seriously need to take your own advice, and grow up... your bs of giving and not being able to handle it back has worn out, so its your call... days go by and not ONE Yanks fan will post anything to get the blood rising from a red sox fan, YET you on a daily basis do the exact opposite, so take your own advice or grow a thicker skin. now, about the other post, i DID remove it, but SOMEONE decided to "Immortalize it for record" get real... you can not ever be happy can you?
how dare you call my puppy a terd! now im pissed Mr.! (just kidding, calm down)
ok have the last word bro and move on, if you can learn to take it as good as you like to give it, please stay, i dont want you to leave, just quit over dramatizing everything to your liking, thats all..... what i said is true, you poke more than i do and more ofton, i just handle it better is all. anyways before you get us both banned, have the last word tonight and were done with this..
ok have the last word bro and move on, if you can learn to take it as good as you like to give it, please stay, i dont want you to leave, just quit over dramatizing everything to your liking, thats all..... what i said is true, you poke more than i do and more ofton, i just handle it better is all. anyways before you get us both banned, have the last word tonight and were done with this..
I find it amazing that in one thread I have members complaining that SPs cannot reply to bad reviews and how members should be thick skinned and tough enough to handle it, and in the sports threads, I have members complaining about trash talk.
How about everyone takes a break. Go for a walk, have a beer, maybe call your favorite lady and get laid. This has already been a very difficult week and I really have no interest in banning or suspending anyone for something as superficial as a sports thread infraction.
Shake virtual hands and let's all move on.
M8
How about everyone takes a break. Go for a walk, have a beer, maybe call your favorite lady and get laid. This has already been a very difficult week and I really have no interest in banning or suspending anyone for something as superficial as a sports thread infraction.
Shake virtual hands and let's all move on.
M8
Hello M8,
LOL...you're a great guy. I would not have your job for the world. You get to tolerate a bunch of crap and get no pay...what a lucky guy?!
Thanks for enduring the entertainment provided here this evening.
I'm having a beer...I've had plenty of action in the sack every night for a week and plan on it again tonight...and I'm not into a walk right now...
I am an easy going guy. It takes allot to push my buttons. I am simply tired of the behavior. My request was simple...I asked that the offending 2 posts (1140, 1144) be removed by the writer. That would be a true virtual handshake by action as opposed to a transparent and meaningless pic.
Have a great rest of the week.
Have fun,
Jman
LOL...you're a great guy. I would not have your job for the world. You get to tolerate a bunch of crap and get no pay...what a lucky guy?!
Thanks for enduring the entertainment provided here this evening.
I'm having a beer...I've had plenty of action in the sack every night for a week and plan on it again tonight
...and I'm not into a walk right now...I am an easy going guy. It takes allot to push my buttons. I am simply tired of the behavior. My request was simple...I asked that the offending 2 posts (1140, 1144) be removed by the writer. That would be a true virtual handshake by action as opposed to a transparent and meaningless pic.
Have a great rest of the week.
Have fun,
Jman
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Reprinted today from The Guardian, Britain's most progressive newspaper.
by Muhammed Cohen
George Steinbrenner was a loser. While insisting that nothing less than wining was acceptable, Steinbrenner owned the New York Yankees during the team's longest World Series drought since its first appearance in 1921, a dry spell directly attributable to Steinbrenner's insistent mismanagement.
Steinbrenner, who died on Tuesday at age 80, was a bully and a brat, devoid of humility, class, and civility, born on third base, deluded that he'd hit a triple, and convinced he had to tell the whole world how he'd done it. Famed for his bombast and for making himself bigger than his players and team, tolerated only because he had money and power, this Yankee Doodle Dandy born on the Fourth of July paved the way for America to become a loser by his example.
Just about every bit of praise eulogising Steinbrenner is 180 degrees wrong. The city's mayor, Michael Bloomberg, called him "a quintessential New Yorker" despite Steinbrenner hailing from Cleveland (Bloomberg's from Boston, weekends in Bermuda), living in Tampa, and blackmailing New Yorkers with threats to move the Yankees out of town to get a new $1.5bn (£1m) stadium that embodies his penchant for vulgar excess. He was a terrific businessman, a daring capitalist who insisted he needed public handouts for his billion-dollar family company; taxpayers underwrote the bonds for that new Yankee stadium and renovated the previous one, and have been rewarded with ticket prices that top out at $2,500.
Steinbrenner was a laughable figure in the comedy series Seinfeld with nothing funny about him. He was a generous man whose many donations we never heard about – as anyone who follows baseball has heard about constantly for the past 35 years – who was breathtakingly cruel and petty. He was a great sportsman, suspended twice from baseball for breaking the rules and convicted for breaking the law. He was a great Yankee who infuriated and alienated the team's players and fans and insulted the Yankees' traditions and greatest legends.
Days before Steinbrenner, the beloved Yankee Stadium announcer Bob Sheppard died. Yankee fan websites are abuzz with variants on the theme that Steinbrenner had clung to life to wait for Sheppard to announce his arrival in heaven. Believe me, if there is a heaven, George Steinbrenner won't be there.
I covered the Yankees as a wire service reporter during the 1980s at the height – or depth – of Steinbrenner's reign of error. He spent lavishly, as always thanks to lavish team income, to assemble the best team money could buy, but the Yankees didn't win any titles.
With his American football mentality – if he hadn't gotten rich from the family business, he would have become an itinerant assistant coach, wearing out his welcome at high schools across America after a year or two – Steinbrenner couldn't understand that baseball is a marathon, with a season of 162 games, not 16, and that no team can win every day.
Steinbrenner's impatience led to bad choices, and his megalomania forbade him from taking responsibility for them. So he fired managers, general managers and even public relations directors, with comic frequency. He dismissed the Yankees Hall of Famer Yogi Berra 16 games into the 1985 season, breaking an explicit promise that Berra had demanded before accepting the thankless manager's job. Berra, who played on a record 10 Yankee championship teams, refused to associate with the team until Steinbrenner apologised. He did – 14 years later.
Leading baseball's salary explosion, Steinbrenner believed that paying players like supermen would make them play that way. When they failed – and even the best hitters fail more than 60% of the time – Steinbrenner assumed the right to berate and humiliate them. One late afternoon in the Yankee clubhouse in 1988, the captain, Don Mattingly, the quiet centre of team turbulence, launched a spontaneous outburst against Steinbrenner. "All they give you here is money," he said, bemoaning the lack of respect, courtesy and dignity on offer.
The best player on those 1980s teams was Dave Winfield, signed to a record 10-year, $18m contract. Winfield was a superbly gifted athlete, drafted in three professional sports, and a classy, handsome, personable individual, among the first athletes to establish his own charitable foundation. I was convinced he'd be America's first black president.
Winfield compiled most of his Hall of Fame credentials as a Yankee, but Steinbrenner had signed him to replace Reggie Jackson, the self-styled Mr October (October being the month for the World Series). Winfield failed to get a hit in the Yankees' 1981 World Series loss to the Los Angeles Dodgers. Steinbrenner took it as a person insult. He derided Winfield as "Mr May". In 1988, Winfield set a record for driving in runs during April and told reporters: "Now it's on to May, and you know about me and May."
To get even with Winfield, and perhaps void his contract, Steinbrenner hired a lowlife named Howard Spira to spy on the player, hoping to find some dirt, particularly financial malfeasance, at the Dave Winfield Foundation. Spira got nothing on Winfield but lowered the boom on Steinbrenner.
Spira wasn't just any lowlife, he was a chronic gambler. Since bookmakers paid off the Chicago White Sox (thereafter the Black Sox) to lose the 1919 World Series, gambling has been baseball's cardinal sin. Steinbrenner's sleazy association earned him his second suspension from the game – the first followed his conviction for making illegal campaign contributions to fellow football fan Richard Nixon – and, ironically, set the stage for the Yankees to end their record post-season drought and create the dynasty that had eluded them under Steinbrenner's misrule.
With Steinbrenner out of the way, the Yankees were able to develop young players rather than trade them away for veterans in hope of a quick fix. The core team that won four out of five straight World Series and reached the playoffs every year from 1995 through 2007, came together when real baseball professionals ran the franchise.
Yet Steinbrenner was there front and centre to take credit for success while blaming others for failure. In his last gasp of conceit before formally ceding control of the team to his son Hank, Steinbrenner orchestrated the dismissal of manager Joe Torre, who'd led the Yankees to the postseason for 12 consecutive years.
Over four decades, Steinbrenner embodied and popularised the values of America's culture of arrogance seen in the banishment of civility and fact from political discourse, the Iraq invasion – a US victory, according to much of the press – obscene executive pay, and the 2008 economic meltdown. Yes, George, you really were a Yankee Doodle Dandy.
by Muhammed Cohen
George Steinbrenner was a loser. While insisting that nothing less than wining was acceptable, Steinbrenner owned the New York Yankees during the team's longest World Series drought since its first appearance in 1921, a dry spell directly attributable to Steinbrenner's insistent mismanagement.
Steinbrenner, who died on Tuesday at age 80, was a bully and a brat, devoid of humility, class, and civility, born on third base, deluded that he'd hit a triple, and convinced he had to tell the whole world how he'd done it. Famed for his bombast and for making himself bigger than his players and team, tolerated only because he had money and power, this Yankee Doodle Dandy born on the Fourth of July paved the way for America to become a loser by his example.
Just about every bit of praise eulogising Steinbrenner is 180 degrees wrong. The city's mayor, Michael Bloomberg, called him "a quintessential New Yorker" despite Steinbrenner hailing from Cleveland (Bloomberg's from Boston, weekends in Bermuda), living in Tampa, and blackmailing New Yorkers with threats to move the Yankees out of town to get a new $1.5bn (£1m) stadium that embodies his penchant for vulgar excess. He was a terrific businessman, a daring capitalist who insisted he needed public handouts for his billion-dollar family company; taxpayers underwrote the bonds for that new Yankee stadium and renovated the previous one, and have been rewarded with ticket prices that top out at $2,500.
Steinbrenner was a laughable figure in the comedy series Seinfeld with nothing funny about him. He was a generous man whose many donations we never heard about – as anyone who follows baseball has heard about constantly for the past 35 years – who was breathtakingly cruel and petty. He was a great sportsman, suspended twice from baseball for breaking the rules and convicted for breaking the law. He was a great Yankee who infuriated and alienated the team's players and fans and insulted the Yankees' traditions and greatest legends.
Days before Steinbrenner, the beloved Yankee Stadium announcer Bob Sheppard died. Yankee fan websites are abuzz with variants on the theme that Steinbrenner had clung to life to wait for Sheppard to announce his arrival in heaven. Believe me, if there is a heaven, George Steinbrenner won't be there.
I covered the Yankees as a wire service reporter during the 1980s at the height – or depth – of Steinbrenner's reign of error. He spent lavishly, as always thanks to lavish team income, to assemble the best team money could buy, but the Yankees didn't win any titles.
With his American football mentality – if he hadn't gotten rich from the family business, he would have become an itinerant assistant coach, wearing out his welcome at high schools across America after a year or two – Steinbrenner couldn't understand that baseball is a marathon, with a season of 162 games, not 16, and that no team can win every day.
Steinbrenner's impatience led to bad choices, and his megalomania forbade him from taking responsibility for them. So he fired managers, general managers and even public relations directors, with comic frequency. He dismissed the Yankees Hall of Famer Yogi Berra 16 games into the 1985 season, breaking an explicit promise that Berra had demanded before accepting the thankless manager's job. Berra, who played on a record 10 Yankee championship teams, refused to associate with the team until Steinbrenner apologised. He did – 14 years later.
Leading baseball's salary explosion, Steinbrenner believed that paying players like supermen would make them play that way. When they failed – and even the best hitters fail more than 60% of the time – Steinbrenner assumed the right to berate and humiliate them. One late afternoon in the Yankee clubhouse in 1988, the captain, Don Mattingly, the quiet centre of team turbulence, launched a spontaneous outburst against Steinbrenner. "All they give you here is money," he said, bemoaning the lack of respect, courtesy and dignity on offer.
The best player on those 1980s teams was Dave Winfield, signed to a record 10-year, $18m contract. Winfield was a superbly gifted athlete, drafted in three professional sports, and a classy, handsome, personable individual, among the first athletes to establish his own charitable foundation. I was convinced he'd be America's first black president.
Winfield compiled most of his Hall of Fame credentials as a Yankee, but Steinbrenner had signed him to replace Reggie Jackson, the self-styled Mr October (October being the month for the World Series). Winfield failed to get a hit in the Yankees' 1981 World Series loss to the Los Angeles Dodgers. Steinbrenner took it as a person insult. He derided Winfield as "Mr May". In 1988, Winfield set a record for driving in runs during April and told reporters: "Now it's on to May, and you know about me and May."
To get even with Winfield, and perhaps void his contract, Steinbrenner hired a lowlife named Howard Spira to spy on the player, hoping to find some dirt, particularly financial malfeasance, at the Dave Winfield Foundation. Spira got nothing on Winfield but lowered the boom on Steinbrenner.
Spira wasn't just any lowlife, he was a chronic gambler. Since bookmakers paid off the Chicago White Sox (thereafter the Black Sox) to lose the 1919 World Series, gambling has been baseball's cardinal sin. Steinbrenner's sleazy association earned him his second suspension from the game – the first followed his conviction for making illegal campaign contributions to fellow football fan Richard Nixon – and, ironically, set the stage for the Yankees to end their record post-season drought and create the dynasty that had eluded them under Steinbrenner's misrule.
With Steinbrenner out of the way, the Yankees were able to develop young players rather than trade them away for veterans in hope of a quick fix. The core team that won four out of five straight World Series and reached the playoffs every year from 1995 through 2007, came together when real baseball professionals ran the franchise.
Yet Steinbrenner was there front and centre to take credit for success while blaming others for failure. In his last gasp of conceit before formally ceding control of the team to his son Hank, Steinbrenner orchestrated the dismissal of manager Joe Torre, who'd led the Yankees to the postseason for 12 consecutive years.
Over four decades, Steinbrenner embodied and popularised the values of America's culture of arrogance seen in the banishment of civility and fact from political discourse, the Iraq invasion – a US victory, according to much of the press – obscene executive pay, and the 2008 economic meltdown. Yes, George, you really were a Yankee Doodle Dandy.
Can you name a baseball player with less class than Derek Jeter?
A column in Friday's Daily News took current and former players to task for not making an appearance at the funeral of the Yankees' legendary public address announcer. Team captain Derek Jeter, who has insisted a tape recording of Sheppard introducing him be played before every one of his Yankee Stadium at-bats for the rest of his career, was the most conspicuous no-show. According to a team source, Jeter flew home to see his family in Tampa after the All-Star Game in Anaheim on Tuesday night. "I don't know why he didn't fly back to New York to attend the funeral," the source said.
A column in Friday's Daily News took current and former players to task for not making an appearance at the funeral of the Yankees' legendary public address announcer. Team captain Derek Jeter, who has insisted a tape recording of Sheppard introducing him be played before every one of his Yankee Stadium at-bats for the rest of his career, was the most conspicuous no-show. According to a team source, Jeter flew home to see his family in Tampa after the All-Star Game in Anaheim on Tuesday night. "I don't know why he didn't fly back to New York to attend the funeral," the source said.
Rumples,
Dammit...I said I wanted to stay away, but you make it WAAAYY to difficult. lol.
As I said earlier in this thread when those who NEVER met Stienbrenner were lauding what a great man he was...anyone who met him and did not have a hand in his pocket and was honest would say what this guy says...but wow...hit he nail square on the head.
I particularly enjoyed the bolded part - perfect description.
Thanks for the post,
Jman
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Ralph Houk, a former Yankee, has passed away
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/bi...at-90-managed-Yankees-Tigers-a?urn=mlb-257457
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/bi...at-90-managed-Yankees-Tigers-a?urn=mlb-257457
Ralph Houk, a former Red Sox, has passed away http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/bi...at-90-managed-Yankees-Tigers-a?urn=mlb-257457
Well,
"And he had the good sense to see George Steinbrenner coming; Houk quit before the Boss could fire him. It was no wonder: Houk also survived D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge in World War II."
As Special K tells you, you might try actually reading a word or two some day...yaaaaa pinstripe goof...lol.
Along with the article by Muhammad Cohen: "Steinbrenner, who died on Tuesday at age 80, was a bully and a brat, devoid of humility, class, and civility, born on third base, deluded that he'd hit a triple, and convinced he had to tell the whole world how he'd done it. Famed for his bombast and for making himself bigger than his players and team, tolerated only because he had money and power, this Yankee Doodle Dandy born on the Fourth of July paved the way for America to become a loser by his example."
Seems to paint a clearer and clearer picture of who Steinbrenner was! Anyway, best wishes to Houk's family and rest in peace good friend.
Sympathies,
Merlot
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the j-rump Jinx continues... Arod 3-4 and hits his 599th homer, along with 4 more rbi's to give him 78 on the season.. Big Mark Teixeira had 3 more hits (not hitting .198 these days boys) .... i have one request j-rump connection, will you PLEASE jinx Joba? please?
on another note, i see papelbon blowing another lead, somethings never change, and hopefully they will continue! (btw boys, bard should be your closer)
on another note, i see papelbon blowing another lead, somethings never change, and hopefully they will continue!
(btw boys, bard should be your closer)
Good article by.... a red sox Fan.. go figure.. and for all you sox fans who hated "The Boss", you should praise him for your 2 world series wins, if he hadnt been who he was and always pushing you around, you would of NEVER won anything let alone 2 Championships while King George owned the Yankees. He made your franchise better by forcing your owners to compete against him. deny that if you may, but the truth speaks for itself.
R.I.P. "Boss"
http://sullybaseball.blogspot.com/2010/07/why-this-red-sox-fan-thinks-george.html
R.I.P. "Boss"
http://sullybaseball.blogspot.com/2010/07/why-this-red-sox-fan-thinks-george.html
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