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Derek Jeter: Question of Character or Part of The Game?
Jeez, give the poor guy a fucking break. If you were hitting .243 with 2 HR since the All Star break, you'd do the very same thing. No?
 

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Ok red sox fans, lets hear you admit honestly that you truly believe that ZERO red sox players would of did exactly like Jeter did last night. If you can honestly say that just because a player is in a red sox uniform, then your out of your minds. there has been both negative and positive responses about it, and so what, it didnt even figure in the outcome. the guy is a competitor just like every player and if you think a vast majority of all the players in MLB wouldnt have done the same thing, like i said above, your out of your minds, besides delusional.

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Hello all,

Excellent post, Beav. Does this explain why the Yankees are 22-21 since the trading deadline?

On April 19, the Red Sox were 5.5 games behind the Yankees. Today, despite all the injuries: Ellsbury, Pedroia, Martinez, Varitek, Cameron, Youkilis, Beckett, Matsuzaka, Buchholz, they trail the Yankees by 6. Kerry Wood is a .500 player and he seems to have brought the Yankees down to his level. Will Lance Berkman ever hit a home run in a Yankee uniform?

Cashman is a mediocre GM who can't field a good team with $200 M. The Yankees would be 4-5 games behind a healthy Sox team.

You know, Beav, you've set the stupid shit bar awfully high and I'd like to be the first to congratulate you for soaring over it. If the Yankees do manage to hold of the Red Sox, something now in question yet again, they're a solid bet to be gone in the first round.

Give the guy a break. You seem to think he was trying to make a sincere (though delusional) assessment. Actually he was just engaged in an odd pinstripe prayer in the old Yankee book on choke prevention.

Jeez, give the poor guy a fucking break. If you were hitting .243 with 2 HR since the All Star break, you'd do the very same thing. No?

With those sort of numbers he should have painted a target on his head and leaned over to give the pitcher a better shot. Faking is just too risky.

BTW...did you notice Ortiz has as many homers as Teixeira and more than A-Rod.

Ok red sox fans, lets hear you admit honestly that you truly believe that ZERO red sox players would of did exactly like Jeter did last night. If you can honestly say that just because a player is in a red sox uniform, then your out of your minds. there has been both negative and positive responses about it, and so what, it didnt even figure in the outcome. the guy is a competitor just like every player and if you think a vast majority of all the players in MLB wouldnt have done the same thing, like i said above, your out of your minds, besides delusional.

Maybe Jeter deserves some credit for admitting to a reporter he didn't get hit, although he had little choice with the acting caught clearly on film. YOU...forget it. No scruples, just blind loyalty. Cheating isn't the same as competing. Of course you are perfectly willing to excuse all those years of steroids so no surprise at your your sad excuses here. After all your pinstripe blindness is well known, and has been proven consistently. Like now.

Do you really think any hypothetical you can propose can excuse the fact he cheated. I mean, I'm not looking at it like he did steroids for his whole career until he got caught...but, it's cheating, and anyone who calls it gamesmanship is just condoning cheating. A small bit of cheating, but cheating nonetheless. To me, it doesn't mater who does it.

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Ok so let me get this correct, after all that jibberish, which i might add you still failed to answer my ?'n. What if pedroia had done it? Are you gonna stop being a fan of his because of that? For the life of me i can not see you calling pedi a cheater for the rest of his career. This silliness has gone to the next level, give your head a shake and come back to reality

Im sure there are many red sox players let alone a huge majority in all of MLB who would of done the same exact thing to give their team a chance to win the game, probably alot have done so before, but whats funny is some well known baseball experts have applauded Jeter for his win at all cost attitude, and thats enuff for me. Like i have heard all day long from experts, "It's part of the game" it is no different than a pitcher doing something to the ball, goes back to the old days when it was common practice.

And a little tidbit for ya, for every Yanks fan that you think wears blinders, there are at least 2 red sox fans that were born with them on and would have to have them surgically removed to come off. "Nuff Said" ... :)




Maybe Jeter deserves some credit for admitting to a reporter he didn't get hit, although he had little choice with the acting caught clearly on film. YOU...forget it. No scruples, just blind loyalty. Cheating isn't the same as competing. Of course you are perfectly willing to excuse all those years of steroids so no surprise at your your sad excuses here. After all your pinstripe blindness is well known, and has been proven consistently. Like now.

Do you really think any hypothetical you can propose can excuse the fact he cheated. I mean, I'm not looking at it like he did steroids for his whole career until he got caught...but, it's cheating, and anyone who calls it gamesmanship is just condoning cheating. A small bit of cheating, but cheating nonetheless. To me, it doesn't mater who does it.


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BTW...did you notice Ortiz has as many homers as Teixeira and more than A-Rod.

Yeah...wasn't Ortiz supposed to be DNA'd before the AllStar break?! LOL!

Oh and I believe Kalish has more jacks(including 2 GS) than Berkman too (at least since he's been a Yankee)...:p



Jeez, give the poor guy a fucking break. If you were hitting .243 with 2 HR since the All Star break, you'd do the very same thing. No?

FACT is the Yankees are on a slide going the wrong way and in the wrong direction at the WRONG time of the year. Not even a moron could argue that right now as they are 2-8 in their last 10. Even their inbred announcers are a little down in the mouth. I watched some of the Rays series...holy shit is Paul O'Neil a whiney, cry baby or what!? How many ways can you argue a ball and strike call on TV? Give it up... But, its typical...lol.

Back to the discussion at hand...hell, I understand Jeter pulling out the bush league bag...really I do:rolleyes:...they gotta do what they gotta do right now...lol. Soon A-Rod will be screaming "MINE!" on popups again...

Well, hang on boys...could be a fun ride yet. Sure would be great to roll into October with those last 3 games meaning something.;)

Back to the cave...
Have fun,

Jman
 
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Ok so let me get this correct, after all that jibberish, which i might add you still failed to answer my ?'n. What if pedroia had done it? Are you gonna stop being a fan of his because of that? For the life of me i can not see you calling pedi a cheater for the rest of his career. This silliness has gone to the next level, give your head a shake and come back to reality

Im sure there are many red sox players let alone a huge majority in all of MLB who would of done the same exact thing to give their team a chance to win the game, probably alot have done so before, but whats funny is some well known baseball experts have applauded Jeter for his win at all cost attitude, and thats enuff for me. Like i have heard all day long from experts, "It's part of the game" it is no different than a pitcher doing something to the ball, goes back to the old days when it was common practice.

And a little tidbit for ya, for every Yanks fan that you think wears blinders, there are at least 2 red sox fans that were born with them on and would have to have them surgically removed to come off. "Nuff Said" ... :)

LOL,

When you yourself have to include "would of done" it points out the simple fact that no else has done it. So it all comes down to the fact Jeter alone did it...Jeter alone is the cheater, and your hypotheticals are just a sad attempt to divert from THAT FACT! Cheap diversions don't deserve answers.

Sadly, you do much better sticking with your..."Excellent post EB"..."Excellent post EB"..."Excellent post EB" parroting routine.

Iggy ...
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No integrity,

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Thanks for posting that bro, i just got home and am watching the replay of the game on YES but its only the fourth inning... hey rumple, how is that for warning track power? not once, but TWICE!!!!!!...... love how Arod had a little smirk on his face after that pitch before the A BOMB, by AROD! .Btw, how did the sox do?
 

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who has been squashing your grapes? more nonsense since you cant truthfully answer my question, which really surprises me, NOT! .... keep them blinders on brother, i would expect nothing less. cheer up, the sox were down by 8 earlier tonight and only lost by 2.
LOL,

When you yourself have to include "would of done" it points out the simple fact that no else has done it. So it all comes down to the fact Jeter alone did it...Jeter alone is the cheater, and your hypotheticals are just a sad attempt to divert from THAT FACT! Cheap diversions don't deserve answers.


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Law of averages had to catch up to him sometime. The guys been the worst $30 million clutch hitter in history!

Well...IF you watched the game, as I doubt some did as they are "headline" fans...you would know why the worst $30M clutch hitter did what he did. I happened to be flipping between the Sox and the Yankee games at the end.

At the risk of sounding like a whiny Paul O'Neil (lol) I will say this...give any major league power hitter 5 strikes and they will do what A-Rod did. He should have been called out 2x on called strike 3's...both times the pitch was in the exact same spot as the pitch that was called strike 1 and the umpire called them balls. When the ump called strike 1, A-Rod whined and complained. Apparently the umpire then decided to adjust the zone. The 2 pitches in question were CLEARLY strikes on Yankeevision replay. Hell A-Rod even had a shit eating grin (not a smirk) on his face on the pitch before he hit the jack, because he KNEW it was a strike. Even the Yankee announcers by virtue of their silence knew he got away with those pitches...

It was simply a terrible display of umpiring - period. Unfortunately it cost the O's the game. But thats the game, so next. Have fun.

Disgusted,

Jman

PS Just for GP and so the real whiners know, personally I have A-Rod on my fbb team, so in a playoff week I benefited form his jacks as I did from the 2 VMart hit last night...still doesn't make it right when a sorry ass umpire can't call the game right.
 
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Hell A-Rod even had a shit eating grin (not a smirk) on his face on the pitch before he hit the jack, because he KNEW it was a strike. Even the Yankee announcers by virtue of their silence knew he got away with those pitches...

A-Rod was interviewed immediately after the game shortly after he rounded the bases and he said the smirk was due to seeing "10 guys in the dugout all jump up at the same time", presumably in anticipation of the game being over. He did not smirk because of the actual call. A-Rod noted that he got nothing but fastballs inside from Uehara and that pitch, to me, was a borderline pitch and when I watched the replay I actually blame Wieters for not properly framing that pitch. If it was Cervelli or Posada behind the plate they would have framed the pitch better. Wieters assumed it would be called a strike and made no effort to jack the gloved pitch over a notch or two. To me, it was borderline. Uehara did not get the call also because he was nibbling inside with fastballs to A-Rod. He should have thrown A-Rod a split off the plate and A-Rod told Kim Jones he was very conscious of the possibility of the split wide but he was looking for the inside fastball, got it and popped it. Personally I think if Uehara's going to throw nothing but fastballs he is going to miss inside with one sooner or later, and deserved to get one popped on him. If he was a smarter pitcher he would have thrown to A-Rod the same nasty fucking pitch that he struck out Teixeira with the prior at bat, which was a splitter down and in which would have been breaking away from A-Rod. It was a case of not very smart pitching by Uehara or catching by his battery mate Weiters.

And by the ways Uehara has a herniated disc in his back from wrenching his head backward upside down watching A-Rod's bomb sail out of the park. The Orioles should coach their pitchers not to watch the homers they give up sail out, and they certainly should not spasm their bodies up and backward as Uehara did. He could have broken his own neck.

Here is the replay, also note that the pitch A-Rod hit off Millwood for a HR was also a fastball in, catching much more of the plate than Uehara's gopher offering:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=300917101
 
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A-Rod was interviewed immediately after the game shortly after he rounded the bases and he said the smirk was due to seeing "10 guys in the dugout all jump up at the same time", presumably in anticipation of the game being over. He did not smirk because of the actual call. A-Rod noted that he got nothing but fastballs inside from Uehara and that pitch, to me, was a borderline pitch and when I watched the replay I actually blame Wieters for not properly shaping that pitch. If it was Cervelli or Posada behind the plate they would have shaped the pitch better. Wieters assumed it would be called a strike and made no effort to shape. To me, it was borderline. Uehara did not get the call also because he was nibbling inside with fastballs to A-Rod. He should have thrown A-Rod a split off the plate and A-Rod told Kim Jones he was very conscious of the possibility of the split wide but he was looking for the inside fastball, got it and popped it. Personally I think if Uehara's going to throw nothing but fastballs he is going to miss inside with one sooner or later, and deserved to get one popped on him. If he was a smarter pitcher he would have thrown to A-Rod the same nasty fucking pitch that he struck out Teixeira with the prior at bat, which was a splitter down and in which would have been breaking away from A-Rod. It was a case of not very smart pitching by Uehara and his battery mate Weiters.

And by the ways Uehara has a herniated disc in his back from wrenching his head backward upside down watching A-Rod's bomb sail out of the park. The Orioles should coach their pitchers not to watch the homers they give up sail out, and they certainly should not spasm their bodies up and backward as Uehara did. He could have broken his own neck.

Here is the replay, also note that the pitch A-Rod hit off Millwood for a HR was also a fastball in, catching much more of the plate than Uehara's gopher offering:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=300917101

Hello Beav,

I read the same article before I posted...but without pinstripe glasses. I just don't believe everything a cheating, low life like A-Rod says as gospel:rolleyes:;).

We do agree on one thing...I too called for the splitter as I was watching. Other than that...its great to see you have not lost your knack for adding the YBS spin.

Have fun,

Jman
 

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Ok red sox fans, lets hear you admit honestly that you truly believe that ZERO red sox players would of did exactly like Jeter did last night. If you can honestly say that just because a player is in a red sox uniform, then your out of your minds. there has been both negative and positive responses about it, and so what, it didnt even figure in the outcome. the guy is a competitor just like every player and if you think a vast majority of all the players in MLB wouldnt have done the same thing, like i said above, your out of your minds, besides delusional.

You're absolutey correct. Two months ago, i attended a Red Sox/Blue Jays game at the Rogers Centre. During the game, the Toronto pitcher threw an inside pitch at Kevin Youkilis. Youkilis immediately pretended he got hit & started to trot towards first base. The umpire never budged, and told Youkilis to get back into the batter's box. Youkilis kept on protesting, and Terrence Francona then came out of the dugout to protest the non-call. The next thing you know, they're appealing to the 2nd base umpire who was in shallow right-centerfield when the play occurred. I laughed! I couldn't believe that anyone would expect an umpire so far out of the play would actually overrule the homeplate umpire who happened to be a few feet away from Youkilis. The guy next to me, a Boston Red Sox fan (who was also from Boston), told me that "the ball must have hit him since Youk would never stoop so low as pretending he got hit". I partially agreed with him, thinking Youkilis had enough class to stay in the godamn batter's box if the pitch didn't hit him. I told him that the play should stand as called since there's no way that the ump way out in centerfield had a better view than the homeplate umpire. Well, guess what? The 2nd base umpire overruled the homeplate umpire & Youkilis was allowed to go to first base. And then, all hell broke loose, with Cito Gaston rushing out of the dugout & giving his piece of mine to the homeplate umpire.

When i got home, i checked the replay since i had recorded the game. To my total surprise, the ball had missed Youkilis by a few inches!! It wasn't even close!!

So there you go...............
 

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LOL,

Ok red sox fans, lets hear you admit honestly that you truly believe that ZERO red sox players would of did exactly like Jeter did last night.

Iggy, please send me your address so I can send you a new child's Teddy Bear. Obviously, losing the one you had as a 3-year-old has made you a bit psychotic. I sympathize with your situation, the great embarrassment of everyone on the planet seeing the greatest Yankee poster boy and icon of the team in the last 15 years or so has clearly been a humbling experience. Thus goes "Yankee Pride"...in the trash. Now that the public relations bull of the Yankees as team of clean-cut honorable players has been exposed, as if A-Rod and his roids hadn't done that before, there can only be a huge hole in your world since such former illusions of holier-than-thou pinstripe player saints has been obliterated.

Your need to see someone admit something that no one here ever said otherwise about proves how disturbing this whole episode has been to your mind. Try to get over it pal. It isn't worth the further embarrassment of pursuing what was really a very minor event. You're the one making this into an epic when the rest of have already gone past it.

You're absolutey correct. Two months ago, i attended a Red Sox/Blue Jays game at the Rogers Centre.

Doc, I have no idea if what you say is true about Youk or anyone else, and what does it matter. Surely such things have gone on in all sports since they started. Only a desperate kookaboo who can't stand the fact that his team's poster-boy player has become a bit stained needs to pester everyone else for an admission of something the rest of us know has happened theoretically in every sport before, and probably by nearly every player to one degree or another. Iggy just needs a sedative for the brutal reality check Jeter gave him so firmly...that YANKEES CHEAT. That's all. It's not the first time.

Cheers,

Merlot
 
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I seriously think, and have for a long time now, that you are a little off your rocker, but even more so now than ever.

What happened the other night with Jeter is yesterdays news, except in a red sox fans mind. but i understand when your team is on the verge of being eliminated from postseason this year that this is pretty much all you have to hang onto, kind of shall we say, "Your World Series", ahhhhhhhhhh that "Class" of some red sox fans shines thru like never before when the sox are missing out on the playoffs. seen it several times and it never gets old, but remains very entertaining to all of Yankees Universe. :) keep up the good WORK bro! (aka Whining)


PS, since you cant openly admit what i asked in a few posts about your sox due to your blinders, i got you a little gift.... here ya go , and cheer up, the sox have a record of 0-0 starting March 31 2011

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PSS. The only thing people are talking about is what a great actor Jeter is and after he retires from his Hall Of Fame Baseball career, he has a bright future in Hollywood.



LOL,
Iggy, please send me your address so I can send you a new child's Teddy Bear. Obviously, losing the one you had as a 3-year-old has made you a bit psychotic. I sympathize with your situation, the great embarrassment of everyone on the planet seeing the greatest Yankee poster boy and icon of the team in the last 15 years or has clearly been a humbling experience. Thus goes "Yankee Pride"...in the trash. Now that the public relations bull of the Yankees as team of clean-cut honorable players has been exposed, as if A-Rod and his roids hadn't done that before, there can only be a huge hole in your world since such former illusions of holier-than-thou pinstripe player saints has been obliterated.

Your need to see someone admit something that no one here ever said otherwise about proves how disturbing this whole episode has been to your mind. Try to get over it pal. It isn't worth the further embarrassment of pursuing what was really a very minor event. You're the one making this into an epic when the rest of have already gone past it.


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Of course, and hey Doc, do you have video replay of youkilis faking? (cant call it acting as he is not in Derek Jeters league of acting ability) :)

could you ever see "youk" in a major motion picture? scary stuff


Ok boys, some baseball..... Mr. Andy Pettite appears to be back and pitching like he did before his injury, now thats bad news for both the Tampa Bay Rays and the red sox.


You're absolutey correct. ...
 
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