The Official MERB 2010 Baseball Thread.

[rumpleforeskiin]

Have you learned anything over these years joe? Of all the people that should know better than to count their chickens before they have hatched, it's you my friend. If the Yankees really had half a clue they would pass on the aging Lee and focus on the younger Greinke but we all know that the Yankee front office aren't the brightest bunch, that's obvious by the ridiculously stupid contact Jeter is going to get.

1. Merlot, the Matsuzaka-Fukodome deal isn't going to happen. Fukodome would be a $13.5 M fourth outfielder.
2. Greinke doesn't have the emotional makeup to pitch in New York. He also doesn't want to play in front of two immobile infielders on the left side.
3. Lee is going to wind up in Texas. Cashman has learned his lesson about giving pitchers long contracts. (Burnett, Pavano, etc, etc.)
4. No, Joe hasn't learned a damn thing after all these years. (see: Willis, Dontrelle.) The place where he's hearing "Lee to be a Yankee by Monday" is from those voices in his head.

 

[Jman47]

Cashman in Arkansas right now talking contract with Lee, deal in the works, sorry for the very disturbing news Jman47, try not to take it so hard, life's not that bad, if you're a Yankee fan that is.


http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/story/2010/11/10/sp-yankees-lee.html

Hello Joe.t,

I'm not it taking badly at all my pinstripe loving friend...with the antiquity, porosity and ineptness of the geriatric left side of the Yankee infield it won't be long before any pitcher in that organization will quickly become extremely frustrated and just starts mailing it in. Couple that with Cashman's uncanny ability to sign big name pitchers and then turn them to shit and you would be sitting in a Red Sox fans seat saying..."WHO CARES!" LOL!!!

Have fun,

Jman

PS I am extremely disappointed the not 1 Yankees's fan has stepped forward to defend the beloved captain and his Gold Glove...I guess when there is nothing to say, there is nothing to say...

 

[Jman47]

1. Merlot, the Matsuzaka-Fukodome deal isn't going to happen. Fukodome would be a $13.5 M fourth outfielder.
2. Greinke doesn't have the emotional makeup to pitch in New York. He also doesn't want to play in front of two immobile infielders on the left side.
3. Lee is going to wind up in Texas. Cashman has learned his lesson about giving pitchers long contracts. (Burnett, Pavano, etc, etc.)
4. No, Joe hasn't learned a damn thing after all these years. (see: Willis, Dontrelle.) The place where he's hearing "Lee to be a Yankee by Monday" is from those voices in his head.

2. That signing would make the Pavano (Brown, Burnett...<insert pitcher bomb signing>) deal look heavenly...you are absolutely right...can you say "Fall to pieces..."
3. LOL...has he...???

Have fun,

Jman

 

[Doc Holliday]

Jays may trade for Greinke

The Blue Jays have inquired about the availability of Kansas City right-hander Zack Greinke.

With Cliff Lee the top free agent on the market, Greinke would appeal to also-rans in the Lee sweepstakes such as the Texas Rangers, Boston Red Sox and Los Angeles Angels.

The Royals are looking for two “can’t-miss prospects” as a starting point in talks on the 2009 American League Cy Young award winner.

Grienke, 26, was 10-14 with a 4.17 ERA in 33 starts this season and will make $13 million US next year.

The Jays have also discussed obtaining Alex Gordon, a former No. 1 draft pick. Gordon started as the Royals third baseman before being demoted to triple-A Omaha in May to play the outfield. A left-handed hitter, Gordon batted .215 with eight homers and 20 RBIs in 74 games with the Royals. He hit .315 with three homers and 44 RBIs in 68 games at Omaha.

Also Wednesday, Newmarket infielder Peter Orr signed a free-agent contract with the Philadelphia Phillies. Orr was at triple-A Syracuse (Washington Nationals) this season, hitting .264 with 12 homers and 45 RBIs in 137 games.

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/baseball/2010/11/11/16082131.html

 

[Jman47]

Jays may trade for Greinke

The Blue Jays have inquired about the availability of Kansas City right-hander Zack Greinke.

Hmmm...with Farrell in Toronto, that could work...

 

[Jman47]

UH-OH...say it ain't so ...

Angels OF Torii Hunter predicts his team and the Red Sox will be the primary players for free agent OF Carl Crawford. "I think Boston and the Angels, that will be the bidding war," Hunter tells the Los Angeles Times. He said he expects Angels officials, led by owner Arte Moreno, to visit Crawford's home in Texas soon. The Los Angeles Times reports Crawford is the Angels' top priority in the free agent market and that the club is willing to give him a nine-figure contract. Hunter said Crawford is the one offseason addition the Angels need to make. Hunter and Crawford are friends and speak frequently, and they have been discussing the free agent process. "He's been saying great things about Anaheim. He needs to go through the process and take his visits. That's what I encouraged him to do. If he comes out here and takes a visit, we're going to win him over," Hunter tells the Times.

Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/sto...o-make-serious-bid-for-crawford#ixzz14zwErNzf

Wasn't Crawford looking for a house in NY...or was that Lee...no wait, that right it was Dontrelle Willis ...

Have fun,

Jman

PS More on the SoCal househunting for Carl... http://www.athbaseball.com/20101111...arl-crawford-will-be-a-los-angeles-angel.html

 

[Jman47]

"Some" are smart...

Free agent SS Derek Jeter met with multiple members of the Yankees' front office over the weekend, according to the New York Daily News. Although no contract details were discussed, a source told the newspaper that a deal should get done in the coming weeks, though neither side set any sort of deadline. The Daily News reports the weekend conversations also likely included Jeter's future at shortstop and where he should hit in the batting order. There are some in the Yankees' front office who are skeptical about Jeter's ability to play shortstop for more than another year or two. And Jeter's drop-off offensively could result in a drop in the order. The Daily News reports Jeter hasn't hit lower than the No. 3 hole since 1999, when he hit cleanup once.

Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/sto...o-make-serious-bid-for-crawford#ixzz14zxIhtes

 

[Jman47]

Crawford hunting for a pad in SoCal...

http://www.athbaseball.com/20101111...arl-crawford-will-be-a-los-angeles-angel.html

 

[lgna69xxx]

Did you read the article? it seems the Yanks are not even that interested in CC #2 at this time. Lee is the Big Fish the Steinbrenners want to catch.

Crawford hunting for a pad in SoCal...

http://www.athbaseball.com/20101111...arl-crawford-will-be-a-los-angeles-angel.html

 

[Jman47]

Did you read the article? it seems the Yanks are not even that interested in CC #2 at this time. Lee is the Big Fish the Steinbrenners want to catch.

Hello Iggy,

Yes, of course I read it. My commentary was satirical in nature because Crawford was one of the .t predictions to be in pinstripes next year. That and every once in a while the Yankees pull one out of nowhere. In this case though I'd say Artie Moreno and Mike Scioscia will land Crawford to play with his buddy Torii Hunter. He also fits the Angels brand of baseball very well. Would it be nice to have Crawford in a Red Sox uniform...sure...but the Sox already have Crawford, next ... in Jacoby Elsbury...they need to go after Jason Werth (and dump Mike Cameron and JD Drew) after they sign Victor Martinez.

Have fun,

Jman

 

[Merlot]

Hello all,

Bawhahahahahaha, you crack me up, only in you're delusional dreams my friend.

BTW, I'm hearing Lee to be a Yankee by Monday.

Try reading my post again since you obviously didn't understand. Lee won 7 straight at the end of the year (mostly September) and still only ended up 12-9. He's magnificent at times, but overall his percentage in wins and losses closely mirrored Lackey last year. He's far better than Lackey in spots, but overall hardly much different last year. He certainly isn't worth the minimum 5 years at $20-25 million per year at his age the Yankees will pay him IF he doesn't stay with the Rangers.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...keep-Adrian-Beltre-and-Victor-Martinez-111210

Epstein said Friday he doesn't know if that will happen, but made it clear he wants both free agents back.

Beltre hit .321 with 28 homers and 102 RBI in his first season with Boston.

Martinez hit .302 with 20 homers and 79 RBI despite being limited by injury to 127 games.

I am reasonably happy to see this commitment considering the free agents available. But successful signings are going to commit a lot of cash that might limit other prospects more valuable like Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez.

Hello Iggy,

Would it be nice to have Crawford in a Red Sox uniform...sure...but the Sox already have Crawford, next ... in Jacoby Elsbury...they need to go after Jason Werth (and dump Mike Cameron and JD Drew) after they sign Victor Martinez.

Have fun,

Jman

I've heard Werth may not be worthwhile. However, after looking at his stats he seems steady in the last three years, good for about 25-35 HRs and 90-100 RBIs, possibly better at Fenway. It seems like he as developed and matured as a productive player according to the bare stats alone. I also agree Cameron is a disappointment and the at times problematic Drew has probably seen his better days.

I just hope all of these "wishes" aren't going to cost obscene "Yankee money" or our best upcoming prospects in trades.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Try reading my post again since you obviously didn't understand. Lee won 7 straight at the end of the year (mostly September) and still only ended up 12-9. That means he was 5-9 over much of the year. He's magnificent at times, but overall his percentage in wins and losses closely mirrored Lackey last year. He's far better than Lackey in spots, but overall hardly much different last year. He certainly isn't worth the minimum 5 years at $20-25 million per year at his age the Yankees will pay him IF he doesn't stay with the Rangers.

Agree, disagree. Lee is not worth $100 M over 5 at the age of 32. That's the agree. The disagree: wins are meaningless as an individual statistic. They are almost entirely win dependent. Look at every team and you'll find guys with better and worse W-L records than they should have due entirely to either a lack of or a wealth of run support.

 

[Merlot]

Agree, disagree. Lee is not worth $100 M over 5 at the age of 32. That's the agree. The disagree: wins are meaningless as an individual statistic. They are almost entirely win dependent. Look at every team and you'll find guys with better and worse W-L records than they should have due entirely to either a lack of or a wealth of run support.

Hello Rumples,

Okay, yes. I did not know the details of run support in Lee's case. Perhaps it was severe. But lack of run support is an issue that happens to the best pitchers on even the most productive teams. Buchholz and Lester faced this problem with the overall productive Sox last year and it seemed that in the larger percentage of these cases they held up to win. Run support is often a problem when number 1 and 2 pitchers often go up against the corresponding number 1 and 2 pitchers of the opponents.

I accept your premise with Lee, but I do see that Lee was 8-3, 2.34 ERA with Seattle and 4-6, 3.98 ERA with the presumably more productive Rangers, and that is perplexing. Of course it's still a matter of who Lee opposed on the mound and run support for him, but 3.98 is a bit high for a player with the general standards and expectations for him.

I thought he had a long streak with Texas in September. Obviously the "streak" includes the playoffs, not the regular year alone. My mistake.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[Joe.t]

Try reading my post again since you obviously didn't understand.
Merlot

I was laughing at your thought that Lee could end up a Red Sox, try reading your post again since you obviously don't understand what you wrote which doesn't surprise me.

"it would put the Sox back in the possible Cliff Lee hunt."

 

[Jman47]

Trouble in paradise...

Derek "Past a Diving" Jeter appears to be getting a little shall we say concerned...could there be trouble in paradise? Could the Yankees brass actually be smart enough to see what some of us who are not Jeter-enamored or pinstripe blinded see...?

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5793627

One could wonder...WHY is the deal not done yet? WHY does Jeter have doubts?

Hmmmm,

Jman

 

[lgna69xxx]

LOL, thats just Derek being Derek. He sounded pretty carefree and stress free as well to me. He will 100% be re signed, 'Nuff Said.

Seems your little league team AKA the red sox should worry about signing a catcher and a starter, not to mention some bullpen help, or it is gonna be another long season in waste managements home office in the new england area, aka fenway. Before you start crying about that, Joet was telling me i have been to easy on the red sox and their fans lately and if i am to still be his hero, i better step up my game, so blame Mr.T.

Derek "Past a Diving" Jeter appears to be getting a little shall we say concerned...could there be trouble in paradise? Could the Yankees brass actually be smart enough to see what some of us who are not Jeter-enamored or pinstripe blinded see...?

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5793627

One could wonder...WHY is the deal not done yet? WHY does Jeter have doubts?

Hmmmm,

Jman

 

[Special K]

Before you start crying about that, Joet was telling me i have been to easy on the red sox and their fans lately and if i am to still be his hero, i better step up my game, so blame Mr.T.

Aim high Iggy, nice to see you've got such amazing aspirations! Lol.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Why ty my good man, always nice to hear words of encouragement from you! haha! ... Actually Joe never said that, but i felt my "spot" slipping a bit and before you know it, i would end up not only behind rumples, but the Plumber as well! cant have that.

Aim high Iggy, nice to see you've got such amazing aspirations! Lol.

 

[Jman47]

Joet was telling me i have been to easy on the red sox and their fans lately and if i am to still be his hero, i better step up my game, so blame Mr.T.

Yeah, because we wouldn't want things to stay civil on a sports thread would we...?!

This just in...Lee passes on the Yankees...Cashman meeting with Pavano...LOL!!!

Have fun,

Jman


PS This shot reminds me of my last trip to Yankee Stadium...

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Derek "Past a Diving" Jeter appears to be getting a little shall we say concerned...could there be trouble in paradise? Could the Yankees brass actually be smart enough to see what some of us who are not Jeter-enamored or pinstripe blinded see...?

Man, that would really suck if the Yankees didn't get stuck with Jeter's corpse for another 8-10 years.