Is this same topic going on YET AGAIN??...I've been otherwise busy for the last little while and managed to slog through this monster, because... well, how can I resist?
I'm going to concentrate for now on this post from Halloween Mike, because, DAMN, you've been asking for it, Mike...
Here we go:
Well the province that could be the first to want to separate is Alberta because of the ... how is it called in english? Bref le petrol... Economically this is the most wealthy province of the country...
Now tough i do think quebec could survive on its own because of electricity and some other financial sources. Not saying it wouldn't be hard at first, but its doable.
Doable, eh? You want to explain to me how the hell Québec can survive economically when we're as close to bankrupt as can be? We're doing so well in our finances that we can't even pay to fix our roads, our infrastructures are falling apart, we can't even pay our doctors and nurses a decent rate, we're supremely overpaying an army of civil servants, my mother's generation of Quebequers will soon or has already entered retirement age and we now have to pay la Rente and a gazillion dollars earmarked for their retirement plans...We're doing so well that no sooner did we get back the Canada-wide 2% refund from the GST that Québec got its desperate little fingers on it as soon as it could ...But where has it gone? Certainly NOT to fix our shameful roads!!!
XBox4ever said:
Canada itself for a long time has always been seen as the cheap twin of the US and thats something, personally, i never like... I mean when i game online and they see im canadian, even if they don't pick on the accent and see im from quebec, i have been insulted simply for being canadian, and being a "cheap pale knock off of the usa" as they put it. The fact that ENGLISH canada was more or less colonize mainly by loosers of the independant war, by the british loyalist does not help either...
And Québec was colonized by noblemen and knights of virtue ONLY, right? No, Québec was ALSO filled by farmers, prisoners, agitators and ladies of the evening to name a few!! Jesus, even Australia was originally a penal colony, are you going to start shitting on them as well? And who the hell CARES what they say about you on Xbox live? Who cares what some nitwit who wouldn't have the balls to say anything derogatory to you in your face has to say? It probably has more to do with the fact that YOU are susceptible to any cheap idiotic attack that these things tend to happen to you repeatedly, don't you think?
mike said:
And then as french in quebec we should be seen as "lesser canadian" by people from our own countries ... that are already seen as a cheap version of americans(true stories, heard many times too, not just once) ... At some point yeah i think its perfectly legitimate we want to separate and turn our back against both the US and the english canada...
Oh and france ain't better too, multiple times been insulted by them too as being "lesser french" , so when we mean independance, we mean it to everybody and we want to be OURSELVES plain and simple.
AGAIN with this? Well, I...DON'T want to separate from Canada, I am perfectly comfortable with who and what I am. A person's point of origin is to me of the same value as one eye colour, or hair colour...which means, it is completely random and does NOT and should NOT in any way control your destiny!! But you seem to let it be the driving force behind yours...
Doc, Eager and all the others, you should really get on xbox live here and there, and see what people truly think... Cause the real opinions of people dosen't come trough media and official sources, where dialogue is always filtered, but trough the mind of the middle peoples, the ones that can totally express what they think.
No thanks, I've actually travelled and lived in other cities, both abroad and elsewhere in Canada, and I've NEVER had a problem with the fact that I have been born of french extraction. In fact I have often met some fine people who were EAGER to learn more and to help them learn french by talking with me. And if they didn't care to do so, well so what?
Oooooh, they have opinions that are different from mine... yeah, so? Halloween Mike, if at your Young age you are THAT concerned with other people's opinions, you are going to make yourself crazy in a dozen years...
Back to this thread later... possibly...