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    Very Bad Experience with a Stripper for Takeout

    I dunno exactly where to put this cuz it is not a exactly a review of a stripclub or an escort. Note to mods please feel free to move the thread to the appropriate section.

    I have been going for take out with strippers for quite some time. Tonight I have to say was my first bait and switch experience. I meet a sexy tiny Black stripper at Doric back in June. Body was very nice and attitude was cool. I took her for many dances. By the booth sessions it was clear that no extras would be available. Body language was the determining factor and it was negative. About a month of that I decided to leave this stripper and move onto to others. However she was very cool to send me text messages each week so I said to myself why not I could go see her take a few dances. No big deal.

    At some point I find out that she works at FS clubs every now and then. I talked to her indirectly about take out during the summer time but she did not want to go. Our relation grew stronger she stayed in touch with me several times a week. She asked to go clubbing with me and we went. I proposed take out to her in October and offered her $400. At that point she opened up. I saw her the following week at 10/35 and she asked me what I want. I made it clear at the what I wanted. I told her that I want GFE and that DFK and DATY were mandatory to me. She said okay and agreed to give it.

    She asked me to go after her shift after 3am for take out. I declined. Not my thing. I like to shower before hand, prepare myself, bring the drinks, and party hats. I wanted the full GFE experience. Last week she proposed me again to go after her shift. She was working at Solid Gold. From this moment on it was downhill. This was last weekend. I accepted and said that I will pay her $300 instead. She said she would stay 1.5 hrs and that $400 for that less time is a bit too much. She accepted $300. Then I cancelled on her explaining it better she took a dayoff or to leave early. That night she was very cold when I saw her. She also did not make much money at the club.

    From this moment on it was all downhill with her. She became unreliable. She was answering my texts either very late or they were not being answered. So finally I booked a date for Friday night. Again she wanted to go after her shift. She was at Vegas bar. So I went there around 1:30am and waited for her. She was busy chatting with a group of guys. She did not bother to see me or even say hi. Another red flag. At closing time I waited for her in the car. A client was looking for her. Sh went to talk to him and she sat in his car for a good 15 minutes. I do not know what they were up to. Once she was done she comes to into my car and cancelled on me. I was thinking WTF? She waited till the last second to tell?? She just wasted my time and I clearly told her that. She said how she was drunk and that it would not be good and did not want to make me feel like a client. Okay. I accepted that and drop her home.

    Tonight we reschedule. I send her a text at 4pm but no answer till 7pm. I sent her a few texts prior. She now changed her plan. She took the night off and asked me to pick her up at 10pm to which I did. She said she was going out clubbing after take out. When I meet her she was cold and even a bit irritated. She was a bit bitchy. Right there I knew it would be bad. At started to cough a bit and said she had a cold. So I politely ask her if she would be okay otherwise we could postpone it for another time. She said no and that she is sick in the mouth but not from inside. I accepted.

    Once I booked the room. She asked me to pay her upfront. Another red flag. Neither of my previous take out with strippers have ever asked to pay upfront. Stupid me I gave her the money. I trusted her. Then she said that she could not DFK cuz of the cold. Then I told her straight up that is not what we agreed upon and if she could not DFK then she had lots of time to tell me. No mention of this by phone or in the car. She kept on saying that she thought I would be okay with no DFK. But in fact I made it clear from the start that DFK and DATY is what I wanted. DFK was non negotiable. I can accept other restrictions except DFK.

    At that point I lost my interest in her it was too negative and we were arguing. I told her to take $50 and leave. But she wanted to keep $180 and she returned me $120. I was like no way that is going to happen. She did not give any service and she mislead me into saying that she would do DFK when that was all a lie. We argued more but she still refused to give my money back. I was not going to physically force her however I called the police to report a thief. At that point she freaked out and told me to hang up the phone otherwise she will punch me. She also blurted out that she has a police record. What a big surprise. With me involving the police she returned my money. She kept the $50. Then I left her.

    A few things I learned from this. You got to observe the strippers body language in the booths. See how liberal she is. If a strippers head is always turned to the side during the lapdances that means that she either is against DFK or simply does not like it. Either way it makes no difference. All this could have been avoided had she been straight up about it. But she baited me and then switched on me once she got payed. She just wanted the money badly and thought that my need for service from her would be so high that I would have accepted no DFK. She was wrong!
    There is no knowledge that is not power.

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    Wow, sorry this happened to you Cloud, ya just never know with some people.

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    Yep. One thing that I have learned from this no matter how close I get to a stripper or how much we go out or get personal... is to never forget the initial and main purpose of the relation and that is selling sexual services for money. Having said that it is to never trust these strippers no matter what. Never pay upfront and be very direct with that you are expecting for your money. After all when you pay then you are the boss. I trusted her as we got close but it was a false friendship. She was a fraud.
    There is no knowledge that is not power.

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    I think your last post says it all very clearly. "Never forget the main purpose of the relation." I've learned that the hard way with strippers. Some of them are real sharks and really are good at playing the game. That is why I don't like strip clubs much and prefer Escorts. Things are a lot more upfront and clear and it really minimizes problems like you experienced. It is a lot less expensive too!!

    Thanks for the interesting story.

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    Hi Cloud

    Just my observation

    It seems that every red flag was waved at you, but you really liked this girl..


    No fault in that..

    So you ignored the signs..

    Me..I'm an impatient kinda guy

    As soon as she pulled that shit with the other client in the parking lot..I would have been done

    At least you were smart enough to call her bluff, and get the money back



    A question- you actually called the police, or threatened to call ?

    Best Regards

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    Sex workers very rarely see clients as much more than wallets. You may get better treatment if you as seen as preferable to other wallets. Her texting you was no different in principle than a company putting an ad in a newspaper. By ceasing to respond quickly to your texts, she was telling you that she had considered her messages to you as not sufficiently effective in generating income.

    She wants money; you want sex. By reducing her expected income, directly (you offered $400, switched to $300 and even cancelled the first time) or indirectly (by asking her to forgo income by leaving early or taking a day off), you should not have expected her to be enthusiastic about dealing with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuler View Post
    Hi Cloud

    Just my observation

    It seems that every red flag was waved at you, but you really liked this girl..
    You are correct in this statement. The red flags were there from the beginning but made I exceptions for her just because I really liked her.


    Quote Originally Posted by smuler View Post
    As soon as she pulled that shit with the other client in the parking lot..I would have been done
    Yep. That is what I should have done. It was obvious that she was not GFE at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by smuler View Post
    At least you were smart enough to call her bluff, and get the money back
    Yes but I should have been smart enough to have never went with her in the first place. The way her attitude changed after I cancelled on her was a major red flag.

    Quote Originally Posted by smuler View Post
    A question- you actually called the police, or threatened to call ?
    Yes I actually did call the police. It was the only way to get my money back. There was no way in hell that she was going to get away with $180 of my money for nothing.
    There is no knowledge that is not power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anon_vlad View Post
    Sex workers very rarely see clients as much more than wallets.
    Exactly and I am fine with that. We all know what they are there for but for me they also got to play the game right. I know I am a wallet but I do not want to be treated like on. Up until last week I never felt like a wallet to her.

    Quote Originally Posted by anon_vlad View Post
    By ceasing to respond quickly to your texts, she was telling you that she had considered her messages to you as not sufficiently effective in generating income.
    Yes but it goes deeper then that. I changed from $400 to $300. She probably thought I was playing games with her or would try to scam her. Her attitude changed ever since that weekend at Solid Gold I should have known better that there is no way she can do GFE with that attitude.

    Quote Originally Posted by anon_vlad View Post
    By reducing her expected income, directly (you offered $400, switched to $300 and even cancelled the first time) or indirectly (by asking her to forgo income by leaving early or taking a day off), you should not have expected her to be enthusiastic about dealing with you.
    Yes but there are two sides to this story. I explained to her what I wanted and how much time I wanted and she agreed. It seemed only natural to take a night off or at least to leave early. The other strippers I had take out with did exactly that. The way she changed by proposing to go after her shift was a major red flag. I should have left it at that. Last night in the car she admitted that she is too tired after her shift to do take out and that she took the night off for me. But you see that is what I told her from the start.
    There is no knowledge that is not power.

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    Sorry about this bad experience you had cloud
    Add the fact I saw this girl at 10-35 (never danced her tho as I wasnt attracted anyway)
    But I would have never thought it will be this nightmare and that makes me even more sad for you !

    Maybe we can give some details about her?
    After all as you said it "she was a fraud" and it could be a good thing for us to know who she is!

    Yup all those girls are sharks about money!
    They all "plays a role" some are good actress and deliver and yup some are fucking lazy wants money while doing nothing!

    I just want to add a positive note ...from my experience I had some very nice experiences about strippers take out but yup you must be careful and always reactive as what is happening and react accordingly!

    Am sure your next "take out" will be very nice and cool!
    Take care!

    Note to mods: I dont think its a violation about Merb rules as there is a bait&swith providers thread. If it is I will edit. thx!

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    hello cloud as you said in a previous post you have the $$$$, your the boss, end of story, i never had that priblem with taleout?, and for me its st.pierre, vegas etc, just your bad luck cloud, then again its 10-35, not your falut? its the type of enviroment, very hungry for $$ over their, like the place in granby near ultramar pipeline, you have to check out more nicer establishments, better quality, lol, wish you luck cloud , keep on hobbying

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveaustin0000 View Post
    you have to check out more nicer establishments, better quality, lol
    Nah ... depends mostly on girls attitude & honesty and not really about places !
    Yup some places tends to attract a lot of shark-girls... especially downtown

    Also obviously about our ability to really think with our main head (lol) and especially to act fast as some could be very manipulative (that is were using the right head is best )

    I had my 2 best ever "take-out" from really not "nice" establishments ... from Francis and Mado !
    my 2 cents

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    Dude...why are you dealing with strippers to begin with?

    Just avoid the drama and hassle altogether by seeing a SP in the first place. There's so much of selection in Montreal, that I'm sure you'd find the right one for you.

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    Its a game lol
    You CANT COMPARE AT ALL strippers vs escorts
    Its like comparing apples versus pears ...
    There is no drama at all and I dont agree with you read cloud500s posts before and you will see that there is NOT "so much of a selection" about his tastes !
    And mine too BTW

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    Quote Originally Posted by charmer_ View Post
    Dude...why are you dealing with strippers to begin with?
    Just avoid the drama and hassle altogether by seeing a SP in the first place.
    Man this is so true !
    It's up front, easy, simple and you can even choose one who is good at role play if you're that kind of sado-maso.

    Strippers are like appetizers...they cost a lot and you don't get much in your plate.
    Can't wait to get my big steak nice and juicy like I want it !

    You like strippers ? man...go in a strip club enjoy then go to Chablis (with one of them rooms with a pole) and call in a superb SP.
    They all like to dance anyway. Have your own music on and enjoy even more.

    The big plus is you get to bang with her and there is no drama.
    C toute ! y en a pas d'problemes.

    Anyway ! TC !

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    I'm just curious what would have happened with the police? You gave her the money in your hotel room. Since it's like an outcall, it's not illegal and she did not "steal" the money from a legal standpoint. I'm glad she gave you your money back, but she could just have called your bluff on this? I wonder how the police would have handled this.
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