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BOYZ,

I told Joe.t that the last time his favorite team the Raiders won a Super Bowl in 1984 was with an ex-Patriot QB...Jim Plunkett...and that he should be thankful that the Patriots did the Raiders a favor of monumental proportions!....the Patriots in 2002 just asked for payback with the "tuck rule" incident in the AFC championship game!

So they are even...what is the big deal!

Actually Sharkman, In a 1976 playoff game the Patriots had the Raiders beaten in the AFC Championship game until a roughing the passer flag was thrown against Sugar Bear Hamilton of the Patriots. The replay showed Hamilton barely touched Cheater Ken Stabler who was shown falling and adding some fake rolling on purpose after Hamilton's fingers barely grazed him. The delay in the fall was so obvious it looked like he had time to order pizza before deciding to do so. The difference in the payback is the Patriots didn't do anything to encourage the Tuck Rule call, while Stabler was as phoney as Joe.t posing as a Patriots fan. That flag gave the Raiders a 1st and goal when it looked like they had been stopped. Good ole Madden the best and dirtiest teacher of cheating ever.

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...friday_its_still_tough_to_look_back_at_r.html

On the next play, Patriots defensive end Mel Lunsford – who was drafted by the Raiders in ’72 – sacked Stabler for an eight yard loss and Pats fans were feeling pretty fancy with just 1:24 left to play.

Stabler misfired on the next two passes and the Raiders were faced with a third and 18 from their own 28 yard line. The Patriots were seemingly poised to pull off a playoff win in enemy territory.

The Snake then dropped back to pass and Patriots defensive tackle Ray "Sugar Bear" Hamilton came charging in on him. Hamilton got a piece of the ball on a pass intended for former Patriot halfback/kick returner Carl Garrett down at the goal line. Pass incomplete.

Game. Set. Match.

Not quite. The most horrible thing happened next. The most backbreaking, heartbreaking call you could imagine.

Referee Ben Dreith called a highly-questionable roughing-the-passer penalty on Hamilton that gave the Raiders new life. Dreith said Hamilton came down on Stabler with excessive force, which forced him to throw the flag.

“It goes incomplete on our sideline,” Patriots broadcaster Gil Santos told NFL Network in a look back at the game. “And then we see the flag. And then they call roughing the passer and I look at the replay and I said, ‘You gotta be kidding me.’”

Hamilton could not believe the call was going to be on the Patriots.

“I just figured that someone had held one of our guys,” Hamilton told NFL Network. “I just knew that’s what it was. It couldn’t have been anything else. I was totally shocked. It was just a phantom, bogus call.”

And the Raiders took advantage of it as Stabler snaked into the end zone behind guard Gene Upshaw to score the winning touchdown with 10 seconds remaining to advance by a final score of 24-21.


Remember all those fumble forward on purpose plays by the Raiders. Sometimes they'd actually chuck it long like a messed up shot put. It inspired the current rule against that.

Truly,

Merlot
 

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BOYZ!

Some notes measuring current success of the Patriots.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=400554322

Since Week 5, the Patriots' offense has a 16.3 efficiency (expected points added per game), best in the league in that span. To put how good 16.3 is into context, in 2007, the Patriots averaged a 15.3 offensive efficiency, which is the best rate of any team in the last 9 seasons.

Matthew Stafford struggled against New England's 4-man rush, completing 11-of-30 passes for 189 yards and an interception against New England's standard pressure. The Patriots entered Sunday ranked 4th in Total QBR allowed with standard pressure (51.0). Tom Brady had no such trouble, completing 33-of-45 passes for 301 yards, two touchdowns and an interception against Detroit's 4-man rush. The Lions defense entered the game with the best Total QBR allowed in the league when using 4 or fewer rushers (39.2). Matthew Stafford was 18-of-46 for 264 yards and an interception Sunday, the lowest completion percentage (39.1%) in a game of his career. Sunday was the 2nd game in a row the Lions defense did not record a sack (0-2). Detroit had at least 1 sack in 9 straight games to open the season (7-2 record). Stafford finished 4-of-10 for 97 yards and an interception targeting Golden Tate and 4-of-10 for 58 yards targeting Calvin Johnson. The 40% completion percentage targeting both receivers is a season low for each.

Tom Brady threw only his 3rd career red zone interception at home. Entering Sunday, Brady had 138 career TD and 2 interceptions on red zone pass attempts at home.


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Buffalo -3 over Cleveland.
Baltimore -6 over San Diego.
Giants -4 over Jacksonville.
Oakland +7.5 over ST.Louis.

My sure shot is a no brainer, Green Bay at home -3 over that team with a cheating history from Massachusetts.
 

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Buffalo -3 over Cleveland.
Baltimore -6 over San Diego.
Giants -4 over Jacksonville.
Oakland +7.5 over ST.Louis.

My sure shot is a no brainer, Green Bay at home -3 over that team with a cheating history from Massachusetts.
About time you got those picks up, Joey boy. Your bookie's got some Christmas shopping to do. Hope this week works out better than last week's 2-3 drubbing.
 

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I was perfect last weekend, so here are my picks to see if i can keep the streak going:

Indy (-10) over Washington
St-Louis (-7) over Oakland
Green Bay (-3) over New England
Miami (-7) over the Jets
 

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My sure shot is a no brainer, Green Bay at home -3 over that team with a cheating history from Massachusetts.
This one should be right up your alley, Joe.
 

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Aaron Rodgers is really, really good. I think he is the best QB in the NFL right now with apologies to Manning, Brees, Brady and Luck. He is younger than the first 3 and more polished than Luck. He has consistently high QB ratings because he doesn't make bad plays or force throws as the others do very occasionally. He is reminiscent of Joe Montana.

He leads the NFL in QB rating (the only meaningful QB stat because it considers fuckups) by a rather whopping 10 point margin.

He has 30 TDs against 3 INTs on the season. 10 to 1. Manning is 34 to 9, Brady 26 to 6 and Luck 29 to 10.
 

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I agree. Aaron Rodgers is an absolutely great QB. It's a good thing Green Bay was patient with him after drafting him. They already had Brett Favre & Rodgers spent most of his first couple of seasons on the sidelines learning from one of the greatest QBs ever. The key to his game is to make the correct decisions & keeping mistakes to a minimum. Maintaining ball control. Controlling the pace of the game. Winning.
 

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BOYZ,

Great game today between the Patriots and Packers. That last 3rd and 4 was the heart-breaker. My biggest worry before the game was the Packers ability to run the ball and Rogers ability to run away from trouble. The Patriots controlled the second but let Green Bay get just enough on the run to be a threat and help Rogers passing game. Overall, it was close and I had this one as a near loss especially since it was at Green bay. The lived up to the hype for once.

The conversation about greatest quarterbacks legitimately revolves around three men, Brady, Rogers, Peyton Manning. Luck has lots of promise but his record is too short and he has failed against the better teams, sometimes by a lot. The super three all are great at making very good decisions and controlling the games. Brees is up there, so may be a few other who still need to prove their longevity. But it's a fact Brady has outmatched Peyton 11 wins to 5 and usually with inferior weapons. This first meeting between Brady and Rogers really did not separate them, but Rogers running capabilities may give him the smallest edge even if it didn't show today. Rogers got significantly more yards, but that often happens as it did versus the Colts when Luck got 50 more yards, 1 less interception, and his team still got killed. The Patriots play a "bend don't break" defense and higher opposition passing yards are frequent.

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Another tough day on the gridiron for Joe. I bet Joe's bookie is getting his whole family new iPads for Christmas thanks to Joe.
 

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Buffalo -3 over Cleveland.
Baltimore -6 over San Diego.
Giants -4 over Jacksonville.
Oakland +7.5 over ST.Louis.

My sure shot is a no brainer, Green Bay at home -3 over that team with a cheating history from Massachusetts.

I will agree with Joe.t this time, Green Bay over the Patriots.

You know your football Sharkman. :thumb:
 

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Dallas -3.5 over Chicago.
Cincinnati -3 over Pittsburgh.
Tennessee -1.5 over Giants.
Indianapolis -4 over Cleveland.

My sure shot pick of the week is also my sure shot pick of the century which is San Diego +3.5 over that rotten, dishonest, cheating organization from Massachusetts.

anon_vlad, you there bud? have not heard from you since.:lol:
KC -6, -25% (line from betfair) tonight

It is possible that the stiffer and I both win.
 
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Dolphins to lose by 13pt vs. Ravens. Dolphins will suffer all day against the run.
 

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Dallas -3.5 over Chicago.
Cincinnati -3 over Pittsburgh.
Tennessee -1.5 over Giants.
Indianapolis -4 over Cleveland.

My sure shot pick of the week is also my sure shot pick of the century which is San Diego +3.5 over that rotten, dishonest, cheating organization from Massachusetts.

anon_vlad, you there bud? have not heard from you since.:lol:


Psssstttt....Joe...You around buddy? Lol. Pick of the century? :lol: Your bookie is looking for you amigo. Hahahahaha. I'm guessing that Tony hacked your account and made those pics I quoted, that's the only explanation for being that putrid, right? Bwwaahhhh!!!!
 
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