Ask us anything part 3

[DouMan]

I was being serious, and I love them, too!--though I meant it more as a general policy question. A lot of men seek acronyms and innuendo (CIM, MSOG, greek), and I've been there, but these days I often seek nonsexual experiences (in addition to playtime) that might not show up on an SP's website or be known to clients. I enjoy having a nice bottle of wine (and/or 420, nothing harder or illegal) to end the day, putting on some tunes and an easy buzz, and having a fun, lively conversation: music, the arts, this hobby, goofy stories, etc. On the one hand, this isn't especially hard to find and there are lots of ladies who (seem to) enjoy hanging out like this; on the other hand, it's most definitely *not* something that all SPs can or want to do--and I don't think it's fair of me to expect it or even ask for it. For some SPs, talking is harder work than f%^ing. Luna, I can tell from your posts out here that you're the real deal, but I can say from experience that many SPs who advertise that they love "books, fine wine, museums, organic food, and yoga" ... are indulging in creative marketing. Shocking, I know!

Don't want to intrude and I really get your point @talkinghead but this must be tread lightly.

This approach may be more suited after multiple dates for certain providers and even then, there may be reason for caution in some cases. Often it may raise, if not a red flag, at least an orange one.

This approach will spook many since it very much resembles a regular dating site. Friendly interaction, suggesting social dates without paying and leading to "hey we're good friends we could have a free one right?".

Not for everyone and for those who may accept boundries must be clearly set right at the beginning and respected. This can easily and rapidly go in a very bad direction if not.

 

[LC18]

I can say from experience that many SPs who advertise that they love "books, fine wine, museums, organic food, and yoga" ... are indulging in creative marketing.

You brought a book to someone and they didn’t know how to read?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I was being serious, and I love them, too!--though I meant it more as a general policy question. A lot of men seek acronyms and innuendo (CIM, MSOG, greek), and I've been there, but these days I often seek nonsexual experiences (in addition to playtime) that might not show up on an SP's website or be known to clients. I enjoy having a nice bottle of wine (and/or 420, nothing harder or illegal) to end the day, putting on some tunes and an easy buzz, and having a fun, lively conversation: music, the arts, this hobby, goofy stories, etc. On the one hand, this isn't especially hard to find and there are lots of ladies who (seem to) enjoy hanging out like this; on the other hand, it's most definitely *not* something that all SPs can or want to do--and I don't think it's fair of me to expect it or even ask for it. For some SPs, talking is harder work than f%^ing. Luna, I can tell from your posts out here that you're the real deal, but I can say from experience that many SPs who advertise that they love "books, fine wine, museums, organic food, and yoga" ... are indulging in creative marketing. Shocking, I know!

A lot of what you describe fits very well with the type of experience I can provide I love talking. As long as I'm getting compensated for social time, it's all good with me

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Don't want to intrude and I really get your point @talkinghead but this must be tread lightly.

This approach may be more suited after multiple dates for certain providers and even then, there may be reason for caution in some cases. Often it may raise, if not a red flag, at least an orange one.

This approach will spook many since it very much resembles a regular dating site. Friendly interaction, suggesting social dates without paying and leading to "hey we're good friends we could have a free one right?".

Not for everyone and for those who may accept boundries must be clearly set right at the beginning and respected. This can easily and rapidly go in a very bad direction if not.

For me if a client tells me he wants a lot of social time that isn't a red flag at all as long as he's willing to pay for it and as long as I know how long the date will last, how many hours of social time and how many hours of intimacy etc. I actually love this type of booking because I enjoy getting to know someone

 

[Sylar]

Don't want to intrude and I really get your point @talkinghead but this must be tread lightly.

This approach may be more suited after multiple dates for certain providers and even then, there may be reason for caution in some cases. Often it may raise, if not a red flag, at least an orange one.

This approach will spook many since it very much resembles a regular dating site. Friendly interaction, suggesting social dates without paying and leading to "hey we're good friends we could have a free one right?".

Not for everyone and for those who may accept boundries must be clearly set right at the beginning and respected. This can easily and rapidly go in a very bad direction if not.

I understood that he would still be paying the normal rate.

 

[talkinghead]

Don't want to intrude and I really get your point @talkinghead but this must be tread lightly.

This approach may be more suited after multiple dates for certain providers and even then, there may be reason for caution in some cases. Often it may raise, if not a red flag, at least an orange one.

This approach will spook many since it very much resembles a regular dating site. Friendly interaction, suggesting social dates without paying and leading to "hey we're good friends we could have a free one right?".

Not for everyone and for those who may accept boundries must be clearly set right at the beginning and respected. This can easily and rapidly go in a very bad direction if not.

You're not intruding at all and I appreciate your response! I'm genuinely curious what part of my post seemed to raise a red or orange flag. I'm especially interested in what part seemed to push boundaries, since I am ALL about boundaries. I don't ever want to do that, in person or in anticipation of a date. Many Indies offer social time, and I've done that--an hour in the hotel bar, two hours upstairs. If I'm using an agency, I just tell the booker that I like a woman who speaks English and enjoys talking; that's it, and I hope for the best. I'm not sure what it sounds like I'm after but it's really a couple glasses of wine and some smart conversation and laughter, along with the physical fun (!). I agree that "chemistry," whatever that means, may take a few dates. I think, though, I mean something else: two adults, respecting each other's privacy, shooting the shit and having some fun. And most of the time in Montreal that happens!

I hope this doesn't sound rude but I keep my expectations in check with agencies. It's different for me, though, with indies. I don't indulge as often as many men out here do, and I only book 2-3 hour dates. I can afford (in every sense) a meh experience with an agency girl, but it's a bigger investment with an indy.

I see that Sylar responded and YES, ABSOLUTELY, I'm talking about paying for a professional experience. I would never cross the line and suggest anything more. I actually prefer my personal/social life and my hobby life to be separate.

 

[Sylar]

You're not intruding at all and I appreciate your response! I'm genuinely curious what part of my post seemed to raise a red or orange flag. I'm especially interested in what part seemed to push boundaries, since I am ALL about boundaries. I don't ever want to do that, in person or in anticipation of a date. Many Indies offer social time, and I've done that--an hour in the hotel bar, two hours upstairs. If I'm using an agency, I just tell the booker that I like a woman who speaks English and enjoys talking; that's it, and I hope for the best. I'm not sure what it sounds like I'm after but it's really a couple glasses of wine and some smart conversation and laughter, along with the physical fun (!). I agree that "chemistry," whatever that means, may take a few dates. I think, though, I mean something else: two adults, respecting each other's privacy, shooting the shit and having some fun. And most of the time in Montreal that happens!

I hope this doesn't sound rude but I keep my expectations in check with agencies. It's different for me, though, with indies. I don't indulge as often as many men out here do, and I only book 2-3 hour dates. I can afford (in every sense) a meh experience with an agency girl, but it's a bigger investment with an indy.

I see that Sylar responded and YES, ABSOLUTELY, I'm talking about paying for a professional experience. I would never cross the line and suggest anything more. I actually prefer my personal/social life and my hobby life to be separate.

I am not even a SP and I would hang out with you.

 

[DouMan]

You're not intruding at all and I appreciate your response! I'm genuinely curious what part of my post seemed to raise a red or orange flag. I'm especially interested in what part seemed to push boundaries, since I am ALL about boundaries. I don't ever want to do that, in person or in anticipation of a date. Many Indies offer social time, and I've done that--an hour in the hotel bar, two hours upstairs. If I'm using an agency, I just tell the booker that I like a woman who speaks English and enjoys talking; that's it, and I hope for the best. I'm not sure what it sounds like I'm after but it's really a couple glasses of wine and some smart conversation and laughter, along with the physical fun (!). I agree that "chemistry," whatever that means, may take a few dates. I think, though, I mean something else: two adults, respecting each other's privacy, shooting the shit and having some fun. And most of the time in Montreal that happens!

I hope this doesn't sound rude but I keep my expectations in check with agencies. It's different for me, though, with indies. I don't indulge as often as many men out here do, and I only book 2-3 hour dates. I can afford (in every sense) a meh experience with an agency girl, but it's a bigger investment with an indy.

I see that Sylar responded and YES, ABSOLUTELY, I'm talking about paying for a professional experience. I would never cross the line and suggest anything more. I actually prefer my personal/social life and my hobby life to be separate.

Please do not see this as personal since it is far from being the case. By seeing your profile and description I, as most readers, see that you are honest and straight-forward with your intentions and therefore a provider would very likely feel very at ease with your request.

As many replied that as long as social time is understood to be on the clock, all is well.

I still stand though behind my words being true in too many cases that we have probably all witnessed. As I said in another thread "Faut être prudent car ce milieu demande pas seulement un éveil sexuel mais aussi une maturité émotionnel."

Once again my friend, sorry if my comment came across as personnel.

 

[talkinghead]

I am not even a SP and I would hang out with you.

Do you charge extra for an outcall to a 4 or 5 star downtown hotel? I do have my limits....

 

[talkinghead]

Please do not see this as personal since it is far from being the case. By seeing your profile and description I, as most readers, see that you are honest and straight-forward with your intentions and therefore a provider would very likely feel very at ease with your request.

As many replied that as long as social time is understood to be on the clock, all is well.

I still stand though behind my words being true in too many cases that we have probably all witnessed. As I said in another thread "Faut être prudent car ce milieu demande pas seulement un éveil sexuel mais aussi une maturité émotionnel."

Once again my friend, sorry if my comment came across as personnel.

Your comments came across as thoughtful, considerate, and ethical. I appreciate them. Respect!

 

[Sylar]

Do you charge extra for an outcall to a 4 or 5 star downtown hotel? I do have my limits....

No, I get booked so often, I can afford a monthly public transport ticket.

 

[Zoot Allures]

Can you use the SP for sex education?

Ask her to show you how to best please a woman?

I think you should make your request clear before
making apt as not all SPs would want to do it

 

[Julia Sky]

Can you use the SP for sex education?

Ask her to show you how to best please a woman?

I think you should make your request clear before
making apt as not all SPs would want to do it

You can ask her how to best please her, or some general pointers, but women are not a monolith and nobody can tell you how to please women. The best way to please a woman is is ask what she likes

 

[Fradi]

For me if a client tells me he wants a lot of social time that isn't a red flag at all as long as he's willing to pay for it and as long as I know how long the date will last, how many hours of social time and how many hours of intimacy etc. I actually love this type of booking because I enjoy getting to know someone

There is social time and then there is social time let me explain.
I don’t book one hour sessions ( usually 90 minutes or 2hrs) because I enjoy having a bottle of wine and some pastries or snacks that she prefers and chatting a bit before and after but I consider this part of the session and I like it to not be rushed and easy going.

Paid social time, nope it is never going to happen, sorry for one I am not a lonely individual without a family, children, grand children or friends.
Paid social time for me is nothing but buying a friend. I don’t need someone sitting across the table smiling at me or talking to me because I paid them to do that or to pay for their time to eat a meal that I have paid for.
Sex is essential to a man for his mental health buying a friend for some fake conversation is not.

Now if a lady wants to go have dinner on her own I would never refuse because it means she wants to be there and perhaps I am naive or maybe think too much of myself but I am interesting enough and a nice enough person for someone to have dinner with me without me paying for their time to do that, and if not then they can stay home no harm done.
It is not about the money at all that has nothing to do with it.

 

[LC18]

Paid social time, nope it is never going to happen, sorry for one I am not a lonely individual without a family, children, grand children or friends.

That’s a funny argument because I know that at least 3 men who have paid me for social time were married with kids.

One could question why someone would pay for intimacy when dating apps exist. People pay for different things and that’s ok. Why are people paying to have someone else do their laundry?

It’s almost as if everyone had different needs and interests in life.

 

[LC18]

Now if a lady wants to go have dinner on her own I would never refuse because it means she wants to be there

I actually prefer paid dinner dates over dating apps dinner dates. At least I know the man really wants me there. Feeling wanted is a good feeling and makes me more excited about meeting someone.

Men usually choose dinner dates and overnights because they want to know you, because they want to see more of you, because they want to see what you feel like when you’re not on a tight schedule.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

There is social time and then there is social time let me explain.
I don’t book one hour sessions ( usually 90 minutes or 2hrs) because I enjoy having a bottle of wine and some pastries or snacks that she prefers and chatting a bit before and after but I consider this part of the session and I like it to not be rushed and easy going.

Paid social time, nope it is never going to happen, sorry for one I am not a lonely individual without a family, children, grand children or friends.
Paid social time for me is nothing but buying a friend. I don’t need someone sitting across the table smiling at me or talking to me because I paid them to do that or to pay for their time to eat a meal that I have paid for.
Sex is essential to a man for his mental health buying a friend for some fake conversation is not.

Now if a lady wants to go have dinner on her own I would never refuse because it means she wants to be there and perhaps I am naive or maybe think too much of myself but I am interesting enough and a nice enough person for someone to have dinner with me without me paying for their time to do that, and if not then they can stay home no harm done.
It is not about the money at all that has nothing to do with it.

Not everyone has the same needs as you, tho. Some gentlemen enjoy getting to know SP's in a relaxed setting. Your needs are perfectly fine, and so are theirs.

A lot of people enjoy the company of a lovely lady who has interesting things to talk about. They are not "buying a friend" and a lot of people who book dinner dates and social time with me also have families and friends, they are not losers because they pay for that service.

Usually when I'm booked for social time it's by people who feel like we're going to have interesting things to talk about, and often it's really fun, the conversations aren't forced.

If it's not for you, fine, but don't be upset that some people like this type of booking.

 

[LC18]

Believe it or not some men (very much married) are paying to text me. Why? They have wives, friends and coworkers they could text them…

Would they get nudes? No.
Would they get the thrill? No.
Would they get attention? Maybe not the kind they want.

 

[Fradi]

I actually prefer paid dinner dates over dating apps dinner dates. At least I know the man really wants me there. Feeling wanted is a good feeling and makes me more excited about meeting someone.

Men usually choose dinner dates and overnights because they want to know you, because they want to see more of you, because they want to see what you feel like when you’re not on a tight schedule.

Why wouldn’t you like it you are being bought a nice meal and being paid for the time to eat it. A win, win if ever there is one.

Like I said that will never happen with me I don’t buy friends. I only take real friends to dinner the ones who enjoy my company not the ones that pretend to because I am paying them.

 

[Fradi]

Not everyone has the same needs as you, tho. Some gentlemen enjoy getting to know SP's in a relaxed setting. Your needs are perfectly fine, and so are theirs.

A lot of people enjoy the company of a lovely lady who has interesting things to talk about. They are not "buying a friend" and a lot of people who book dinner dates and social time with me also have families and friends, they are not losers because they pay for that service.

Usually when I'm booked for social time it's by people who feel like we're going to have interesting things to talk about, and often it's really fun, the conversations aren't forced.

If it's not for you, fine, but don't be upset that some people like this type of booking.

I am not upset why would I be I couldn’t care less what other people spend their money on.
It doesn’t affect me in the least everybody is free to do what ever makes them happy.