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Why is it some girls can have sex without lube and some apply it even before you contact each other?
I think some sp's do get naturally turned on from encounters which is why it's not needed. Anatomy is another factor as aforementioned. Nonetheless, it's for the best because there nothing for painful than trying to insert without lube for both parties.
 

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This is where you are totally wrong you always need to impress a woman be it with a gift, with kindness or with humour or all.
This could easily be misinterpreted, some people, men and women, will actually go against their own nature, just to please the other, which will inevitably feel unnatural and fake. My spider sense is too sensitive to not detect bs behavior, I don’t think I am the only one like this.

I know that, from the provider’s side, acting is often a big part of their game and strategy, I’m not judging them. But as a client, I don’t play or act, everything that comes out from my personality is strictly and naturally dictated by the vibes emanating from the interaction between the 2 of us.

Just be yourself, if she is impressed, things will flow smoothly, if you try too much, she probably will feel it.
 

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Just be yourself, if she is impressed, things will flow smoothly, if you try too much, she probably will feel it.
I am being myself I was brought up this way.
Being kind and appreciating a lady by giving them a gift of whatever, it doesn’t have to be extravagant is not fake and is not looking for extras.
There is no play acting I did that for over 35 years with my wife also.
I have never had anything but love and kindness from the women in my life so no there is no play acting on my side I am way too old to take acting lessons or to change, I am completely comfortable with who I am and how I behave with women.
Are the ladies putting on an act, most yes and an extremely good one, but you are paying for a fantasy after all, if you don’t believe that look in the mirror.
Actually I think all this be yourself is BS because if you are not having much luck with the ladies and I venture to say there is a reason we are all seeing escorts and not happily in love, perhaps it is time to change yourself a bit.
 

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I am being myself I was brought up this way.
Being kind and appreciating a lady by giving them a gift of whatever, it doesn’t have to be extravagant is not fake and is not looking for extras.
There is no play acting I did that for over 35 years with my wife also.
I have never had anything but love and kindness from the women in my life so no there is no play acting on my side I am way too old to take acting lessons or to change, I am completely comfortable with who I am and how I behave with women.
Are the ladies putting on an act, most yes and an extremely good one, but you are paying for a fantasy after all, if you don’t believe that look in the mirror.
Actually I think all this be yourself is BS because if you are not having much luck with the ladies and I venture to say there is a reason we are all seeing escorts and not happily in love, perhaps it is time to change yourself a bit.

There are different reasons why either men are seeking an escort, or why women are escorts...

For men
There are some who are polyamorous suited and just haven't woken up to the reality of who they actually are because it is not society accepted. (often where the cheater fits in.)
There's the sweetheart who women just walk all over, the friend zone guy, not always unattractive, but lacks the confidence.
There's men down on their luck looking for love and still need their needs met.
There's some who have never been in a relationship and have only known escorts
There's men who have put so much effort into their career relationships just fell the the wayside.
There's men who's families put so much demand on them they don't have a dating friendly home, or schedule.
There's men who are fresh out of relationships and too hurt to either try again, or just not ready yet for the dating world.
There's the complete tool who never learnt how to treat a lady, might attract them, but can't keep one because to his core he is just evil and selfish.
There's men who unless they pay for it are so repulsive in attitude that the moment they start talking turn a girl off.

For women
There is the girl who is in it for money, and just might fake the visit.
There's the hot girl who doesn't really know what else to do because only thing anyone ever has given her confidence on is being hot.
There's the honest really horney girl, yes she needs to make a living too, why not do something she enjoys.
there's girls where this lifestyle just makes sense, it fills a void in their own life, like how the men who call her are filling a void in theirs.
There are the ones looking to support a habit.

I'm sure there are a lot of people outside of these examples as well part of being human is being unique. Not everyone is compatible, and not everyone is suited to see all the different kinds on either spectrum. but they are all real, and all genuinely themselves. And all the girls are expected to be good, even with those they aren't compatible with.

Any man just assuming a woman is doing this job, just for money, just isn't open to wanting to see the lady as just serving his 1 need he called her for. You get what you put into the encounter. If you treat her as nothing more than to service your hardon. Your not going to see the woman in front of you.

Fradi has a really healthy way of viewing the encounter. And a way the ladies tend to need as well. We get more out of these encounters than just the money.. We walk away with the emotions left behind from being mistreated, or disillusioned, or treasured, or appreciated. How you treat the lady will often stick with her and form her opinion of you directly and often of men as a whole. This day and age, is far too much about self gratification and not paying attention to how your behaviors affect others.
 

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We get more out of these encounters than just the money.. We walk away with the emotions left behind from being mistreated, or disillusioned, or treasured, or appreciated. How you treat the lady will often stick with her and form her opinion of you directly and often of men as a whole. This day and age, is far too much about self gratification and not paying attention to how your behaviors affect others.
I could not have said it better.
We are all human beings and like and deserve to be appreciated.
A bottle of wine, some pastries, a gift card , remembering her birthday or at Christmas time when things are slow are not going to put me in a different tax bracket.
No, she is not my wife or life companion but still a lady with the same kind of feelings and no I have not forgotten that it is a paid transaction but there is no reason I cannot try to make it as pleasant as possible.
Anyway we all have our own way of doing things.
 

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There are different reasons why either men are seeking an escort, or why women are escorts...

For men
There are some who are polyamorous suited and just haven't woken up to the reality of who they actually are because it is not society accepted. (often where the cheater fits in.)
There's the sweetheart who women just walk all over, the friend zone guy, not always unattractive, but lacks the confidence.
There's men down on their luck looking for love and still need their needs met.
There's some who have never been in a relationship and have only known escorts
There's men who have put so much effort into their career relationships just fell the the wayside.
There's men who's families put so much demand on them they don't have a dating friendly home, or schedule.
There's men who are fresh out of relationships and too hurt to either try again, or just not ready yet for the dating world.
There's the complete tool who never learnt how to treat a lady, might attract them, but can't keep one because to his core he is just evil and selfish.
There's men who unless they pay for it are so repulsive in attitude that the moment they start talking turn a girl off.

For women
There is the girl who is in it for money, and just might fake the visit.
There's the hot girl who doesn't really know what else to do because only thing anyone ever has given her confidence on is being hot.
There's the honest really horney girl, yes she needs to make a living too, why not do something she enjoys.
there's girls where this lifestyle just makes sense, it fills a void in their own life, like how the men who call her are filling a void in theirs.
There are the ones looking to support a habit.

I'm sure there are a lot of people outside of these examples as well part of being human is being unique. Not everyone is compatible, and not everyone is suited to see all the different kinds on either spectrum. but they are all real, and all genuinely themselves. And all the girls are expected to be good, even with those they aren't compatible with.

Any man just assuming a woman is doing this job, just for money, just isn't open to wanting to see the lady as just serving his 1 need he called her for. You get what you put into the encounter. If you treat her as nothing more than to service your hardon. Your not going to see the woman in front of you.

Fradi has a really healthy way of viewing the encounter. And a way the ladies tend to need as well. We get more out of these encounters than just the money.. We walk away with the emotions left behind from being mistreated, or disillusioned, or treasured, or appreciated. How you treat the lady will often stick with her and form her opinion of you directly and often of men as a whole. This day and age, is far too much about self gratification and not paying attention to how your behaviors affect others.
Wow talk about psychology 101, your comments are enlightening and spot on.

I tip my hat to you ... mes hommages madame.
 

Rebaynia

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Wow talk about psychology 101, your comments are enlightening and spot on.

I tip my hat to you ... mes hommages madame.

My goal was to point out only a small fraction of men who call an escort is the kind of man who is an actual turnoff to girls.. That many can just be good men who this is the best place for them to find someone and not be judged, and not be requested more beyond the time they have asked to pay for, for whatever reason they are calling.

It is also to discredit those saying girls who do this are only in it for the money too... Yes this is work. Yes we need to earn a living as well.. How would you react if your boss asks you to work for free? But just because your paying, doesn't mean your just money.. Only the shittiest of men are viewed for the money they provide. Most men are appreciated for who they are, and are seen as well. Some girls might fake enthusiasm because they want you to have the best time even if they aren't feeling it. Doesn't even mean there is any fault to the guy for that either. Most aren't faking wanting to make your day better, because you chose to see them.

Sure there are bad apples in every bunch... But it sucks, and makes me wonder what kind of person someone is to refer to every girl as a fake. From past relationships I have learnt it's self projection. (not you, just not calling the people out who refer to girls directly in this manner.) These girls wouldn't survive doing this job if it was just for money. You have to want to do this to be able to do it without being crushed by the job, like any other job. these girls do it because they want to not because of money alone. If they have to act like they like someone, it is often the because the chemistry just isn't right, and she doesn't want you to have a bad time even though.

If you have a problem with 99 out of 100 girls.. it's time to stop blaming the girls, and start looking inward for the solution.
 
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For the SP, do you watch porn? If yes, is there a specific type of porn you like watching?
Yes.. XXX hardcore porn that i couldn't even share with past bf's because it made them uncomfortable.. ;) .. Thankfully, i now get to explore my fantasies with my master.
 

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Question :
What are the most common reasons for quitting this work ?
And when you do quit, do you keep in touch with some of your regulars ?
 

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I am being myself I was brought up this way.
@Fradi
This is the first sentence of my comment:

« This could easily be misinterpreted, some people, men and women, will actually go against their own nature, just to please the other, which will inevitably feel unnatural and fake »

I really don’t get how you managed to turn it into something directed at you.
 

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@Fradi
This is the first sentence of my comment:

« This could easily be misinterpreted, some people, men and women, will actually go against their own nature, just to please the other, which will inevitably feel unnatural and fake »

I really don’t get how you managed to turn it into something directed at you.
Well for one you directly quoted me and replied to my comment., but it is not a big deal.
I don’t see how showing a bit of kindness towards a provider is going against your nature and being fake or that it should be interpreted as play acting on the clients part.
Your are not professing your love or that you will support them financially for the rest of their lives or making a life time commitment..
For some it is actually being themselves.
It is all good I really don’t want to get into an argument over this we all have our own way of doing things.
 
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Question :
What are the most common reasons for quitting this work ?
Everyone has different reasons.
Some it's relationships.
Some it's 1 bad expierience too many.
Some it's how the job makes her feel about herself in the long run.
Some it's to have other life expieriences.
Sadly some it's because they got sick from the job.
And when you do quit, do you keep in touch with some of your regulars ?
Depends the circumstances.

If you met the girl threw an agency, personal info likely was not shared, or wasn't sapposed to be shared. (An agency rule to not have sp's working outside the agency, they frown on missing out on their cut.)

If she is indy, it depends also.

-Does she wish to just stick with her favorite regulars And stop recieving new clients?
-Does she want to maintain the friendships that developed, but stop sleeping with them?
-Or does she intend to retire fully, and disappear? (Seems least likely these days with technology)
 
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Much has been reported in the media and by pundits about the supposed "masculinity" and "loneliness" crises amongst young men.
Not just young men. I would say city men maybe. I am almost ashamed to say most relationships I have been in I felt like the more masculine one. From woodworking with big tools (I'm weird and actually am turned on with power tools), to fishing (baiting and maintaining everyones hook and line in the boat, including the bf at the time), to being the handyman when something needs to be fixed. I grew up in a single parent household, being my moms problem solver, man of the house position as the oldest child who could figure it out.
A narrative/data point I often hear thrown around is that the top 5% of men on dating apps are commanding the attention of 100% of the women, leaving the remaining 95% of the male users shunned and unsexed. One question I have for the SPs is if they're observing such characteristics amongst their clients (e.g., do young clients feel lonely in their lives and shunned from the dating market?) or are the clients who seek out and/or frequent SPs of a cross-section of men for whom none of these things really apply?
I would agree with the dating scene is very unbalanced. It has been to my benifit, because goodlooking men are having trouble getting the attention of girls on dating apps, they call girls like me for the attention and affection they seek in a relationship.
Really part of the trick is just to have confidence in yourself for some, and some just need to learn to talk to girls. The chovanistic attitudes of the past don't bode well in todays world, but a guy still needs to be a man, but it's not easy to figure out where the balance of being a woke sensitive but manly man fits in. Some just have the right charisma.
For the SPs who have been in the industry for a little while, are there any noticeable trends or differences in behavior, expectations, emotional dispositions, or thinking among young men compared to, say, 5-8 years ago?
I have not been in the industry that long, more of a 20yr gap between. I think the differences is more noticeable between different cultures of the world, and how in those cultures, where they come from treat their SPs.
You would think youth of today would be pushing for more PSE, but often those from our area I find are more respectful in their MILF pursuit. As opposed to some who come from parts of the world where women are treated like second class citizens.
 
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I mean, treating someone with respect and kindess is the bare minimum. My idea of impressing somebody is a $1k+ bottle of wine, which is absolutely silly for an encounter with no feelings involved.
There are always feelings involved. It is how you treat someone that impacts those feelings. Why do you repeat with someone if there are no feelings involved.
Impressing someone doesn’t have to be with an exorbitant amount of money in fact often it doesn’t require any money.
 
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I mean, treating someone with respect and kindess is the bare minimum. My idea of impressing somebody is a $1k+ bottle of wine, which is absolutely silly for an encounter with no feelings involved.
The monetary value of a gift has absolutely no correlation with the sincerity of our gestures. The price tag should not dictate how impressed someone is, although I do understand why a lot of people would feel that way.
 

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Gentlemen I don't think the idea behind the OP was to lead to a debate on each and every point.

Even though your comments are highly interesting they would benifit more by being in seperate threads.

With all due respect let's get back to WE ask SPs questions and THEY answer as set forth by the OP.
 
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