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LC18

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I imagine most sp prefer longer dates such as dinner dates. Are you disappointed when clients request 1h dates? If a client is a regular booker of 1h dates let's say every month do you consider them a valuable client? What is your most frequently requested dates from clients : 1h, 2h. dinner date FMTY or other lenght?

Are you disappointed when clients request 1h dates?
No not disappointed.

If a client is a regular booker of 1h dates let's say every month do you consider them a valuable client?
If he books 60 mins and isn’t too ambitious, he will be a valuable client yes. If he books 60 mins and expects us to do 20 positions, massage, outfit change etc, I will stop accepting his requests. It’s mentally draining.

What is your most frequently requested dates from clients : 1h, 2h. dinner date FMTY or other lenght?
90 mins in Montreal is very popular and 2 hours when I’m out of town. I am glad my marketing works.
 

Laster

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Ladies, thank you so much for the insights you have given us, I appreciate your directness as well as your sense of humour
What is your take on older gentlemen ?
i am in my later 60’s, still have my hair although it is salt and pepper now ( maybe more salt than pepper).
I am curious, do you find an older client creepy or have a dirty old man perception of him and would rather not see him if it can be avoided? Some SP’s state an age range in their ads so it’s obvious they don’t want that type of client, but would like to know your thoughts, as this business does allow SP’s to filter out clients according to different criteria ( ie respectful, no low ballers or time wasters, etc).
Thx!
 
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I’ve heard by different YouTube lifestyle/dating/game coaches that most SP “ despise” their client irl , that they resent the transactional nature of the relationship, that most “ real” men with game are what they are really attracted to. I’ve had one experience where this was absolutely true. How many of your colleagues get jaded and how many enjoy the encounter? Would you ever consider a purely social encounter away from the business? Is the connection sincere or mostly an act ? What makes for good chemistry? Tks.
 

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I’ve heard by different YouTube lifestyle/dating/game coaches that most SP “ despise” their client irl , that they resent the transactional nature of the relationship, that most “ real” men with game are what they are really attracted to. I’ve had one experience where this was absolutely true. How many of your colleagues get jaded and how many enjoy the encounter? Would you ever consider a purely social encounter away from the business? Is the connection sincere or mostly an act ? What makes for good chemistry? Tks.

This is exactly what I avoid when I am screening my clients. Anyone I get the transactional vibe of just wanting sex for money is a no go for me. People and experiences like that will get me to hate what I do. I came back to do this job to get away from doing work I don't like and that stresses me out. Often I need to feel some kind of vibe, or chemistry in the texting aspect before I am even willing to visit someone. If I don't feel I will enjoy my time with your company, then I won't see you. It is as simple as that. Looks, age, all the shallow shit doesn't matter to me. Who you are and whether I feel you are genuine and a good person and personality is what I aim for.

I wear my heart on my sleeve and if I don't like you, I can't hide it. I have seen some people who rub me the wrong way when seeing them, and for those ones, when they contact back again, I will tell them I did not enjoy their company and will not be returning. It is also why I refuse to have a booker, or work with an agency. I don't want to just do this job and hate myself and my life that this is what I do. I want people I will enjoy and get along with and have good experiences with. Especially since I already don't feel good about myself that this is what I have to resort to to get by in life. My clients being good people and reminding me how I make their life, and day better is what makes me feel better about getting to see them. They make me feel ok and better about what I do, and help me to learn to embrace who I am and that I enjoy on some level that I do this.
 

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What is your take on older gentlemen ?
i am in my later 60’s, still have my hair although it is salt and pepper now ( maybe more salt than pepper).
I am curious, do you find an older client creepy or have a dirty old man perception of him and would rather not see him if it can be avoided? Some SP’s state an age range in their ads so it’s obvious they don’t want that type of client, but would like to know your thoughts [...]
Hello Laster!

Most of my clientele are late 40s to late 70s, with some in their late 30s lately. I have seen some in their 80s! And that's probably a reason why I have been in this business for so long since I usually go along better with older gentlemen!

In the last years, I actually began filtering out younger clients (20s) since we don't share the same vibe and they can't « offer me » the experience I want to have and don't allow me to give the experience I want to give. What I observed is that most don't care about the environment where they invite me since I do outcalls only, don't bother to offer me a glass of water, or more importantly, don't welcome my sexual personality and experience. As I get older, this becomes more and more obvious. It makes for a so-so encounter and nobody is happy.

It can absolutely happen with people of any age, so in the end, the type of email you send me as well as other factors will be good indicators of our possible chemistry and the success of our moment!
 
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LC18

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Ladies, thank you so much for the insights you have given us, I appreciate your directness as well as your sense of humour
What is your take on older gentlemen ?
i am in my later 60’s, still have my hair although it is salt and pepper now ( maybe more salt than pepper).
I am curious, do you find an older client creepy or have a dirty old man perception of him and would rather not see him if it can be avoided? Some SP’s state an age range in their ads so it’s obvious they don’t want that type of client, but would like to know your thoughts, as this business does allow SP’s to filter out clients according to different criteria ( ie respectful, no low ballers or time wasters, etc).
Thx!

What is your take on older gentlemen ?
I love them, maybe because they usually like to take time. Longer dates, more “get to know each other”, longer foreplay.

Do you find an older client creepy or have a dirty old man perception of him and would rather not see him if it can be avoided?
Only those who actively seek 18 years old SPs. I will never change my mind on it.

Some SP’s state an age range in their ads so it’s obvious they don’t want that type of client
I personally have a 21+ policy because I don’t feel comfortable seeing someone under that age.
 

LC18

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I’ve heard by different YouTube lifestyle/dating/game coaches that most SP “ despise” their client irl , that they resent the transactional nature of the relationship, that most “ real” men with game are what they are really attracted to. I’ve had one experience where this was absolutely true. How many of your colleagues get jaded and how many enjoy the encounter? Would you ever consider a purely social encounter away from the business? Is the connection sincere or mostly an act ? What makes for good chemistry? Tks.

How many of your colleagues get jaded and how many enjoy the encounter?
How would I know? I can only speak for myself and from a privileged standpoint. If I disliked my clients so much I would do something else. Do I have bad days? Yes like everyone else. Do I have clients I don’t have chemistry with? Yes.

Would you ever consider a purely social encounter away from the business?
Yes. Compensated.

Is the connection sincere or mostly an act ?
Sincere. If you meet me and don’t feel connection, it sucks but it’s ok. You cannot “click” with everyone.

What makes for good chemistry?
Talking, I rarely have a connection/good chemistry with men that just come in and expect to do “adult activities” right away. It just makes me feel like a blowup doll.
I’m not asking you to read me your autobiography but we can do a little bit of small talk and then get in the shower.
 

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Ladies for those of you who have changed names, persona and "rebranded" what have been the benefits, drawbacks and reasons? is it to change your service offer? Change your targeted clientele? leverage a ''new girl" image? security reasons? Do you hope / want your regulars to follow or is it about starting over entirely?
 

OHenry

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How many of your colleagues get jaded and how many enjoy the encounter?
How would I know? I can only speak for myself and from a privileged standpoint. If I disliked my clients so much I would do something else. Do I have bad days? Yes like everyone else. Do I have clients I don’t have chemistry with? Yes.

Would you ever consider a purely social encounter away from the business?
Yes. Compensated.

Is the connection sincere or mostly an act ?
Sincere. If you meet me and don’t feel connection, it sucks but it’s ok. You cannot “click” with everyone.

What makes for good chemistry?
Talking, I rarely have a connection/good chemistry with men that just come in and expect to do “adult activities” right away. It just makes me feel like a blowup doll.
I’m not asking you to read me your autobiography but we can do a little bit of small talk and then get in the shower.
Thanks for your reply. I was thinking you had fellow SP’s you are in touch with sort of like myself knowing other contractors in a business circle , but I take it you don’t.
 

Rebaynia

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Thanks for your reply. I was thinking you had fellow SP’s you are in touch with sort of like myself knowing other contractors in a business circle , but I take it you don’t.

Agency girls have other girls in their agency they might get to know because they are exposed to eachother, but not always. Indies don't really have exposure to other SWers. With the exception of forums like here.
 

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In your experience, generally speaking, are there...
any conversation topics that should be avoided, tend to be a turn-off, or outright boring?
any conversation topics you tend to enjoy the most?
reliable icebreaker/conversation starters for shy, nervous, guarded, or quiet clients?
things you prefer not to be asked about?
As a general rule, 3 things I never ask about are family/boyfriends, how much they make, and why are they escorting. Unless they bring those topics up in conversation themselves.
 

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Have you done side hustle like Onlyfans or consider it as alternative instead of escorting
 

Rebaynia

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Have you done side hustle like Onlyfans or consider it as alternative instead of escorting
No because I don't feel comfortable on camera. If I went the only fans route, and could survive off that I would see no need to be escorting, preferring to not have to see strangers. But camera work isn't for me. I feel awkward in front of a camera, and need that someone else's excitement to get excited. I find it unsettling to being alone in a room with a camera. Besides I would have likely the worst onlyfans if I tried it.
 

Rebaynia

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In your experience, generally speaking, are there...
any conversation topics that should be avoided, tend to be a turn-off, or outright boring?
-Questions that I find are a turn-off my childhood ( talk about abuse doesn't help set a mood) , or questions about my kids (I am protective over them and it will get me to build walls up and mistrust the person and their intentions)
-I don't tend to find any topic boring per say, as I am generally a nerd, and things many people find boring I find fascinating.
any conversation topics you tend to enjoy the most?
-When someone is fascinated in my relationship and wants to hear about my bdsm lifestyle with my master.
-Gaming
-and conversations about when I get to be in a mosh pit at concerts.
reliable icebreaker/conversation starters for shy, nervous, guarded, or quiet clients?
-Kissing seems to be my favorite icebreaker. It settles the nerves pretty quickly.
-If they are uncomfortable we can sit and talk for a bit. See what we have in common.
-As long as they are able to hold a conversation. (I tend to avoid people who don't speak English for that reason.)
things you prefer not to be asked about?
-My finances and how much I make each day, or per week.
-Worst experiences while working.
-Or someone telling me they want to save me from this lifestyle. I know what it is to live on the other side, and it wasn't any better for me, to be honest I found my way back to this because I know how not suited I am to lead a regular life that others strive for, I just have trouble embracing myself and learning to enjoy this lifestyle after having a lifetime being made to feel shameful for being this type of person.
 

TheJames101

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I’ve heard by different YouTube lifestyle/dating/game coaches that most SP “ despise” their client irl , that they resent the transactional nature of the relationship, that most “ real” men with game are what they are really attracted to. I’ve had one experience where this was absolutely true. How many of your colleagues get jaded and how many enjoy the encounter? Would you ever consider a purely social encounter away from the business? Is the connection sincere or mostly an act ? What makes for good chemistry? Tks.

I've heard the same, but from browsing the subreddit that's open only to SP's. Watching them talk to one another about clients in general makes one want to quit the hobby lol.
 

LC18

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Thanks for your reply. I was thinking you had fellow SP’s you are in touch with sort of like myself knowing other contractors in a business circle , but I take it you don’t.

I do, we just don’t talk about that because we are friends and would rather talk about our lives than the job.
 

LC18

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Do you like having a few drinks with a client in a session?

Btw, which I like doing.

Do you like having a few drinks with a client in a session?
Yes, however I always warn people to bring a small bottle if they want to bring wine or champagne because I’m not a heavy drinker and you’re gonna end up drinking the whole bottle by yourself if you bring a regular sized one.
 

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Why is society worse after covid and getting worse everyday? How do you find meaning in a world devoid of it?
 
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