Climate change

[martbl]

These developing countries are only doing what we did in america and europe for years. If they reach our level of living we are completely doomed.

Hopefuly not, it seems like the "Western" lifestyle is considered as a model in those countries, so if ecological responsibility becomes the norm here we can hope it catches on everywhere.

The other thing is innovation, if technology can make "green energy" cheaper it can help too.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

I read somewhere that a climate change scientist stated " For the human contribution to climate change imagine putting a drop of red dye into a pool every year, after many many years people will notice the red dye. For humans to reverse this it would be the same as taking a drop of red dye out of the pool every year"
As for China being the leader in solar panel building, yes they make and sell them but use coal generators.
The largest power producers in China have asked the government to allow for the development of between 300 and 500 new coal power plants by 2030 in a move that could single-handedly jeopardise global climate change targets.
A few nations gave up on rapid advancement of alternative energy, not feasible yet and have retreated their rapid Go Green.
Fear mongering by politicians and the UN ( which should be shutdown ) got a lot of people's panties in a knot.
Yes, climate is changing, we have had 5 global ice ages and they all have a warming trend after.. just like now.
There have been at least five major ice ages in the Earth's history (the Huronian, Cryogenian, Andean-Saharan, late Paleozoic, and the latest Quaternary Ice Age). Outside these ages, the Earth seems to have been ice free even in high latitudes.
What a cash grab by politicians, what a bunch of sheep believing taxes will fix it.

 

[Albacor]

Arrr... Climat change, green house effect, carbon tax, all these are BS, it is a religion, you can believe it or not? if you believe it, then you plunge into it. Just like any religion, you believe it, then you practice it, then you will go to church, a mosque, a synagogue or a temple to worship. if you don't then stay out.
In a documentary I saw on TV it shows that scientist dig out deep sample underneath the ice of the North pole, bring them back to the lab, it shows that million years ago, North Pole is an exotic jungle: it have trees like the Amazon ! actually it is a cycle of global warming, it's all natural ! we are going into a warm cycle, that's all!
Funny thing it's all about $ people try to take advantage and take $ out of your pocket! rich people doesn't car about carbon tax, they still driving Ferrari, Porsche, etc... $0.60 tax on a liter of gas doesn't limit or reduce them to drive; it's only hurting poor people like us! when we go to grocery shopping, you can not carry 10 Kg bag of rice and take the bus! you have no choice to take your car!
All politicians are hypocrites, all they want to collect taxes.
Montreal barns home chimneys, barn bagel bakeries because they pollute the air, :ban: makes all streets impossible to drive by car, raise parking rates; but allows Grand Prix Formular1 which pollutes equally to 11,000 cars running ! come on guys ! wake up ! $$$$$$ :crazy:
You tell me? :doh:

 

[heliragedeleted]

Albacor... it’s not a religion, lol. The only gods I pray to are the pussy gods. I because convinced of the reality of the situation because I read about the data. I saw that the scientific community became more and more cohesive behind the idea of climate change and then I started seeing the effets with my own eyes.
Look I understand not wanting to give up of the lifestyle we have and that is the primary problem.
GMÀ s suggestion for young undergrads to go into this field of study is a very elegant suggestion which I fully back.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

My daughter just finished college and is starting environmental studies in university, she will find lots of work due to this " climate change " issue. We have many discussions about this. She does realize that it is a cycle and people are over reacting but it is where the future employment is. The climate believer have their blinders on, claim it is happening but still use fossil fuels to the max, climate politicians can not lead by example and do teleconference calls and need to fly in private jets and live in massive houses.... Money grab that fools many.

 

[Bred Sob]

I am surprised no one has mentioned farting cows yet. A clear and present danger if we've ever seen one.

 

[jalimon]

I am surprised no one has mentioned farting cows yet. A clear and present danger if we've ever seen one.

I am surprised no one has ever though of recuperating these gazes to exploit them. I am pretty sure they can heat buildings and/or be used for public transport. I should build a business... But men I suffer from clay fever cannot enter a stable...

Cheers,

 

[Bred Sob]

I am pretty sure they can heat buildings and/or be used for public transport.

What kind of public transport do you have in mind? Hot air balloons?

 

[Bred Sob]

Thank you, GMA, a very informative clip. At the very least, its first minute that I dutifully watched.

Reinforces my long-held belief that unless we grow gills and switch to eating seaweed within the next few months (say, by the end of this summer), we are truly and completely fucked. I hope all honest people who care about our planet's future, have already embarked on the training regimen required to reach that goal.

 

[2fast2slow]

I beleive in climate change, but am always dubious about water usage claims. They use to say: 'when you drink a glass of water in a restaurant, you are really drinking 3; 1 you drink, 1 to clean and 1 to rinse''. What that statement omits, is that you are not destroying 3 glasses of water, just moving it around. 2 glasses go directly down the drain, will get cleaned downstrean at the plant and dumped back into a river. the other glass will take a small detour through your body first but will eventually end up in the same place, also cleaned of your body waste. the small fraction that you exhale and sweat is released 'cleanly' back in the air.

same with agriculture and animal use. water is not destroyed, just moved around. I guess some water is involved in chemical processes in plants and animal, but most gets excreted

 

[CLOUD 500]

2fast2slow,

Currently the biggest pollution right now and the biggest threat is the over population of humans. About water moving around the problem is that water is limited the more humans there are the less of it there is to go around. Canada is lucky to be surrounded by so much water but go to places like India and you see the difference. They do not take showers like us, they use buckets of water while we just leave the shower running. Often water is cut there so water is not always available people have to store water. With the developed big cities this is much less an issue there.

 

[2fast2slow]

There will always be enough water, maybe not evenly distributed amonst the worlds population like we would like, but the total water volume on the planet is NOT going down. But climate change is another beast altogether. I worry (maybe i worry too much) that climate change could bring catastrophic change to our planet. And for what? because we could not control our climate changing emissions? sounds silly. But I am optmistic that electric vehicles will slowly replace most gas vehicles, and that we will find a way to make tasty meat in a lab cheaply.

 

[heliragedeleted]

Thank you, GMA, a very informative clip. At the very least, its first minute that I dutifully watched.

Reinforces my long-held belief that unless we grow gills and switch to eating seaweed within the next few months (say, by the end of this summer), we are truly and completely fucked. I hope all honest people who care about our planet's future, have already embarked on the training regimen required to reach that goal.

You are always the optimist... no I think we have till Sunday then I ´m getting fucked.

 

[Reuben]

Evidently the North Pole is experiencing a 40C increase in temperature this year due to global warming. With the crappy cool weather we have been having in Montreal this spring you would think there is global cooling in effect.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

^^^^^Yeah.... No.
It is due to a polar vortex that started in 2018. Same with the cold in the N.E. US, same vortex.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Evidently the North Pole is experiencing a 40C increase in temperature this year due to global warming. With the crappy cool weather we have been having in Montreal this spring you would think there is global cooling in effect.

An ignorant post, but if you understood climate change you would not have wrote this. There is a jet stream that flows west to east. The one that affects us to the most is the polar jet stream. Its strength depends on how cold the arctic is, the colder the arctic is the greater the temperature difference between the polar region and temperate region which results in a very strong jet stream flow thus a jet stream that is almost straight which keeps the cold arctic air up north. However due to the warming arctic the temperature difference is reducing which is weakening the jet stream thus why we are having a more erratic stream with large dips and ridges. Familiar with the polar vortex? Look it up on google. The issue with a weak jet stream is that it is creating a very deep dip on the eastern side letting that cold arctic air into the northeastern seaboard. It is far worse for Siberia. It will only get worse. Our winters will be getting colder, snowier, and longer. BTW have you noticed how the west British Columbia is always under a heat wave? The west used to be the area with cool wet summers now the pattern reversed. In the west the jet stream always has a huge ridge letting in warm tropical air. Knowledge is power. Look it up. There is a science behind it.

 

[2fast2slow]

An ignorant post, but if you understood climate change you would not have wrote this.

i dont think he was denying climate change, just stating that if us montrealers would base our opinion on local weather you would think the climate is cooling

 

[hungry101]

This whole issue about climate change is pure brainwashing...it used to be called "global warming" and now they call it "climate change" because they realize they have no idea what they are fuckin talking about...only Montrealers that think like sheeps are stupid enough to gobble this crap!

All it takes is one huge volcanic explosion and the whole theory goes up in smoke! The earth has gone through so many changes in the past but nobody takes that into consideration! Did you ask yourself why - for example, among many other things - we are paying 5+ cents more per litre for gas than we are supposed to? No, because you think like sheeps!

The only ones that understand and have it right is the current US administration under president Trump!

I agree. Sure the earth may be warming but to think that massive government taxes is going to fix anything is ludicrous. I'm so glad that Bush and Trump haven't given into the Paris Global accord. To think that developing nations like China and India have license to pollute all they want and North America, because we have enough already, is also ludicrous. The pollution knows no boundaries.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

GHG emissions rose 2.7% globally last year after rising 1.7% the previous year. China went up 4.6% and India up 6.3%.
Paying a carbon tax would be the same as you saving some money on a cheaper escort weekend and expecting someone in Europe to get a blow job because of it.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

i dont think he was denying climate change,

I thought he was blaming the event on climate change not denying it.