COVID's vaccine, by whom, when, effective? all around the vaccine

[Stx]

Another thing to consider with respect to that study is that it only looks at vaccination vs number of covid cases. It is a very simple study looking at statistical correlation.

Of course, the reason why there is no decrease of cases as vaccination increases is because restrictions get removed as vaccination increases. The other reason is that the vaccine is not sterilizing.

The important thing is to look at hospitalizations, and to a lesser extent, deaths. That is where the effect of the vaccine is most evident.

 

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The important thing is to look at hospitalizations, and to a lesser extent, deaths. That is where the effect of the vaccine is most evident.

This study was about HOSPITALIZATION and not cases as stated by the title on the graph.

 

[Stx]

This study was about HOSPITALIZATION and not cases as stated by the title on the graph.

My apologies for not being clear, I was referring to the Harvard study posted earlier.

 

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I hope you are right but looking at the resurgence in UK, I refrain to being too optimistic.
Anyway, I will feel better to hug my grand-daughters when they will get their shot.

 

[gaby]

Bonne nouvelle.....la FDA vient d'approuver la vaccination pour les 5-11 ans...le Canada devrait suivre.

 

[gaby]

...... on propose le tiers da la dose pour adulte pour les 5-11 ans....une étude PFIZER rapporte que sur 2,268 enfants testés le taux d'efficacité était de 91% vs les symptômes de la COCID-19...et la FDA a renchéri en précisant qu'en regard du DOSAGE

3,100 enfants le vaccin était sécuritaire.

 

[sene5hos]

Des infirmières veulent contracter la COVID-19... pour rester au travail

L’OIIQ mène une enquête sur des infirmières qui cherchent à contracter volontairement la COVID-19 dans le but d’éviter le vaccin.

journalmetro.com

Nurses in the health network are reportedly seeking to be voluntarily infected with COVID-19 in order to be able to work without being vaccinated.
The Order of Nurses of Quebec (OIIQ) is currently investigating this phenomenon, according to our information.

Faced with this observation, it seems that workers in the health network are trying to catch the disease in order to escape the vaccine for at least six months, while continuing to work.

To me, they are not real nurses.

 

[cloudsurf]

Des infirmières veulent contracter la COVID-19... pour rester au travail

L’OIIQ mène une enquête sur des infirmières qui cherchent à contracter volontairement la COVID-19 dans le but d’éviter le vaccin.

journalmetro.com

Nurses in the health network are reportedly seeking to be voluntarily infected with COVID-19 in order to be able to work without being vaccinated.
The Order of Nurses of Quebec (OIIQ) is currently investigating this phenomenon, according to our information.

Faced with this observation, it seems that workers in the health network are trying to catch the disease in order to escape the vaccine for at least six months, while continuing to work.

To me, they are not real nurses.

That is insanity if true.

 

[sene5hos]

It's not believable but true.

On LCN this morning they are talking about it, a lot.

 

[sene5hos]

Cinq employés non vaccinés suspendus après avoir refusé des tests de dépistage

Le CIUSSS de la Capitale-Nationale a suspendu sans solde cinq employés non vaccinés après qu’ils aient refusé de se soumettre à des tests de dépistage

www.tvanouvelles.ca

The CIUSSS de la Capitale-Nationale suspended without pay 5 unvaccinated employees who refused screening tests, mandatory since October 15. Employees were warned several times before being suspended.

When a worker is not vaccinated, he puts at risk not only the often vulnerable users with whom he is in contact, but also his co-workers.

 

[gaby]

DUBÉ ce jour.....c'était à prévoir...quand on backtrack une fois c' est qu'on se garde prêt à le faire à nouveau....lol....et c'est le pas qu'à franchi le Ministre today.....

Ne venant pas à bout des 14,000 employés de la Santé qui refusent la vaccination . .il décide donc ce jour DE NE PLUS RENDRE OBLIGATOIRE la vaccination pour le personnel de la Santé.....sauf pour les nouveaux---MAIS DE RENDRE OBLIGATOIRE le dépistage

3 fois/semaine pour le personnel non-vacciné......on passe donc de la vaccination obligatoire au dépistage obligatoire....ceux qui refusent seront suspendus sans solde.

N' en demeure pas moins que 97% du personnel de la SANTÉ est doublement vacciné...c'est quand même exceptionnel......MAIS le maintient des services actuels exige la présence des non vaccinés.

Dans mon livre c'est un échec politique MAIS vu le succès malgré tout de la vaccination globale et les mesures contraignantes mises en place pour les 14,000 récalcitrants...la pilule devrait quand même passer...

 

[Womaniser]

DUBÉ ce jour.....c'était à prévoir...quand on backtrack une fois c' est qu'on se garde prêt à le faire à nouveau....lol....et c'est le pas qu'à franchi le Ministre today.....

Ne venant pas à bout des 14,000 employés de la Santé qui refusent la vaccination . .il décide donc ce jour DE NE PLUS RENDRE OBLIGATOIRE la vaccination pour le personnel de la Santé.....sauf pour les nouveaux---MAIS DE RENDRE OBLIGATOIRE le dépistage

3 fois/semaine pour le personnel non-vacciné......on passe donc de la vaccination obligatoire au dépistage obligatoire....ceux qui refusent seront suspendus sans solde.

N' en demeure pas moins que 97% du personnel de la SANTÉ est doublement vacciné...c'est quand même exceptionnel......MAIS le maintient des services actuels exige la présence des non vaccinés.

Dans mon livre c'est un échec politique MAIS vu le succès malgré tout de la vaccination globale et les mesures contraignantes mises en place pour les 14,000 récalcitrants...la pilule devrait quand même passer...

If I was Dube, i would make them pay for the tests.

 

[gaby]

But IMHO reality is...if they did not get vaccinated yet---knowing all the consequences--they will not accept to b tested neighter.....at this point they don't care and do not deserve to work for the public health....go/stay home plz.

 

[Chouin95]

If I was Dube, i would make them pay for the tests.

If you were Dubé, you would have just layed an egg.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Not sure where to post this but I will here. Surprise surprise. Lego backed off and existing healthcare workers will no longer be required to be vaccinated following Doug Ford's announcement. Only new hires will have to be vaccinated. They realized they cannot spare loosing any healthcare workers considering the fact that they are already seriously understaffed.

Vaccines won't be mandatory for existing Quebec health-care workers, only new hires

In an about-face, facing a drastic service reduction, Quebec has decided that health-care workers already employed won't be forced to get a COVID-19 vaccine, said the health minister Wednesday.

montreal.ctvnews.ca

 

[sene5hos]

Packers' Aaron Rodgers tests positive for COVID-19, will miss Week 9 battle vs. Chiefs

Packers' Aaron Rodgers tests positive for COVID-19, ruled out for Week 9 battle vs. Chiefs; per report

www.cbssports.com

To be more accurate, he noted he had been "immunized," and that creates its own set of questions on if he's truly vaccinated or if he's speaking to simply having built up natural antibodies from possibly contracting the virus on a previous occasion.

Oh yes, he had been "immunized,"

 

[sene5hos]

Not sure where to post this but I will here. Surprise surprise. Lego backed off and existing healthcare workers will no longer be required to be vaccinated following Doug Ford's announcement. Only new hires will have to be vaccinated. They realized they cannot spare loosing any healthcare workers considering the fact that they are already seriously understaffed.

Vaccines won't be mandatory for existing Quebec health-care workers, only new hires

In an about-face, facing a drastic service reduction, Quebec has decided that health-care workers already employed won't be forced to get a COVID-19 vaccine, said the health minister Wednesday.

montreal.ctvnews.ca

If you knew someone in RPA who died because of an employee who was unvaccinated?

I would say to Mr. Dubé that those who don't want to be vaccinated must be tested every time they come to work and pay for their tests.

 

[sene5hos]

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-11-01/holdouts-dig-in-as-nyc-vaccine-mandate-takes-effect

NEW YORK (AP) — About 9,000 New York City municipal workers were put on unpaid leave for refusing to comply with a COVID-19 vaccine mandate that took effect Monday.

Here we are in a shortage of personnel, we could not do it.

 

[sene5hos]

US mandates vaccines or tests for big companies by Jan. 4

Tens of millions of Americans who work at companies with 100 or more employees will need to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 by Jan. 4 or get tested for the virus weekly under government rules issued Thursday.

www.guelphtoday.com

Tens of millions of Americans who work at companies with 100 or more employees will need to be vaccinated against COVID-19 by Jan. 4 or get tested for the virus weekly under government rules issued Thursday.

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration said companies that fail to comply could face penalties of nearly $14,000 per violation.

The new requirements, which were first previewed by President Joe Biden in September, will apply to about 84 million workers at medium and large businesses, although it is not clear how many of those employees are unvaccinated.

Tougher rules will apply to another 17 million people who work in nursing homes, hospitals and other facilities that receive money from Medicare and Medicaid.
Those workers will not have an option for testing and will need to be vaccinated.

 

[sene5hos]

Trying to defend the rights of unvaccinated MPs only makes the Conservative Party look stupid

Many Conservative MPs refuse to declare their COVID-19 vaccination status, and that makes defending them a stupid risk for the party

www.theglobeandmail.com

Luckily, Otoole's party was not elected.
Several deputies of this party, are not vaccinated.