The Official MERB 2010 Baseball Thread.
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Hey joelcairo - good to see you here.
Here's hoping Youk enjoys his time off and rehabs that ankle. The Pawsox are gonna need him down the stretch. Won't it be ironically embarrassing if a bunch of AAA ball players manage to hang in there with the worlds best paid thugs for the last 80 games...lol
As SK says...put some popcorn on, its gonna be fun!
Have fun,
Jman
PS On the question that never has been answered, for anyone who wants to talk baseball...here are good places to begin to find out who the top Yankee prospects are:
http://yankeesprospects.com/
http://www.baseballamerica.com/toda...rganization-top-10-prospects/2010/269277.html
Here's hoping Youk enjoys his time off and rehabs that ankle. The Pawsox are gonna need him down the stretch. Won't it be ironically embarrassing if a bunch of AAA ball players manage to hang in there with the worlds best paid thugs for the last 80 games...lol
As SK says...put some popcorn on, its gonna be fun!
Have fun,
Jman
PS On the question that never has been answered, for anyone who wants to talk baseball...here are good places to begin to find out who the top Yankee prospects are:
http://yankeesprospects.com/
http://www.baseballamerica.com/toda...rganization-top-10-prospects/2010/269277.html
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LOL,
How does any point you made anywhere separate Swisher from Youkilis one of the hardest working players in any sport, and at least as tough of an out as anyone in the MLB? It doesn't. So given that they are both hard working, every stat goes to Youkilis, but not only him. Paul Konerko is better that Swisher too. Every discernible deciding fact of any difference are totally against Swisher. This pick was determined by over-whelming fan population numbers against merit. Any unbiased baseball fan knows that.
Los Angeles Times
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/07/joey-votto-nick-swisher-all-star.html
The bad news: New York Yankees outfielder Nick Swisher was chosen by fans for the final American League roster spot for Tuesday's game.
Votto beat out Nationals third baseman Ryan Zimmerman, Rockies outfielder Carlos Gonzalez and Atlanta Braves closer Billy Wagner. The Padres' terrific reliever Heath Bell had been in the mix before being named the replacement for the injured Yovani Gallardo of the Brewers.
Votto's numbers this season: 21 home runs, 59 runs batted in, a .588 slugging percentage and a .313 batting average. Yes, Votto got my votes.
Then there is Swisher. Well, for a career .250 hitter, he is having a fine season. But an All-Star? Let's look at his numbers: 14 home runs, 48 RBIs, a .518 slugging percentage and hitting .298. Hmmmm.
Swisher, with 9.8 million votes, edged out Boston first baseman Kevin Youkilis in the tightest race in the nine-year history of baseball's so-called Final Vote. Swisher also beat out White Sox first baseman Paul Konerko, Rangers third baseman Michael Young and Minnesota outfielder Delmon Young.
Konerko got my votes based on the season he is having: 20 home runs, 61 RBIs, a .556 slugging percentage and batting .296 (all these numbers are from 6 p.m. Pacific time).
But Youkilis' numbers are better than Swisher's too: 17 home runs, 55 RBIs, .574 slugging percentage and hitting .292.
Let's face it, Yankees fans simply beat out Boston's fans in online voting.
All for a guy who flopped in the postseason last year. Oooh, yes, let's not forget Swisher's postseason numbers from 2009: 1 home run, 2 RBIs and a .128 batting average.
Says it all.
Bingo! The New York population is 14 times larger than Boston. It's a bogus choice.
Cheers,
Merlot
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Hello Merlot,
Excellent article. I totally forgot how bad Swisher sucked it up in the post season.
Reference my post #1,031 - Swisher shamelessly campaigned (BEGGED) for votes...NEVER been done before by any MLB player.
Simply shows he is shameless and without an ounce of class.
If I may speak for a friend of mine...Swisher could be described as a fucking moron®.
And please guys spare us the sour grapes and boo hoo crap...if you have talent, fans recognize it. If you don't, you tweet beg for votes.
Disheartened,
Jman
Excellent article. I totally forgot how bad Swisher sucked it up in the post season.
Reference my post #1,031 - Swisher shamelessly campaigned (BEGGED) for votes...NEVER been done before by any MLB player.
Simply shows he is shameless and without an ounce of class.
If I may speak for a friend of mine...Swisher could be described as a fucking moron®.
And please guys spare us the sour grapes and boo hoo crap...if you have talent, fans recognize it. If you don't, you tweet beg for votes.
Disheartened,
Jman
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BWHAHAHAHAAHAHH! now why did i know you'd notice that? 
Hadnt seen this but, a couple days ago it seems Andy "CY" Pettite was named to the Allstar Team for the AL, and is much deserving. Cant believe i missed that, i gotta spend less time in Montreal.......... nahhhhhhhhh!
Hadnt seen this but, a couple days ago it seems Andy "CY" Pettite was named to the Allstar Team for the AL, and is much deserving. Cant believe i missed that, i gotta spend less time in Montreal.......... nahhhhhhhhh!
BWHAHAHAHAAHAHH! now why did i know you'd notice that?
Hadnt seen this but, a couple days ago it seems Andy "CY" Pettite was named to the Allstar Team for the AL, and is much deserving. Cant believe i missed that, i gotta spend less time in Montreal.......... nahhhhhhhhh!
Bwahahaha now why do I think you had no clue you screwed it up?
Well congrats on spelling Andy correctly.
Yup, old Andy must feel pretty good being named as the back up / 2nd string replacement for that young stud Clay Buchholz...since the only reason the old man made the team was because CB was injured
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Nick Swisher is proving why he deserved more than anyone to be voted in by the fans to this years allstar game, as we speak he is 3-3 tonight with 2 singles and a double...... instead of Send Swish, it is now Sending SWISH! good job fans of MLB
***UPDATE*** watch baseball tonight for the web gem the Swisheroo just made, wow, 3-3, flashing the leather in the field, this guy should be in the starting line up of the allstar game the way he is playing! Plus he has a hot fiancee
***UPDATE*** watch baseball tonight for the web gem the Swisheroo just made, wow, 3-3, flashing the leather in the field, this guy should be in the starting line up of the allstar game the way he is playing! Plus he has a hot fiancee
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Why? He doesn't know a single thing about baseball. He's only here since Iggy posts in this thread. He's stalking him like he regularly did in the hockey threads. But now that he's been ordered to behave in those threads, he brings his little circus act here, even though he doesn't know shit about the game Abner Doubleday 'supposedly' invented, nor does he care about it. 90% of the stuff he posts is totally irrelevant & whose only purpose is to bait people into disagreeing with him or trying to get them suspended.
Anyways, love him or hate him, Joey C is our little buddy & we should all show him some love, right?
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Swisher actually went 4 for 4 last night, infused with the pride of being an All Star as his father Steve once was. I would say he has made the old man, who was a great defensive catcher, quite proud. Swish is now batting .307.
A lot of people have seem to forgotten that the All Star game has always been decided by a fan vote. It's the fans who decide who goes and who they want to see play, and 9.8 million wanted to Send Swish. I believe that Swisher has a connection with the fans that transcends those of any of the other players he was up against who have vanilla personalities. It's the same kind of connection that Mark Fidrych once had with baseball fans, and something that went beyond his talent. I don't think anyone here really understands this at all because nobody here watches Swisher play on a regular basis. He's the most popular player on the Yankees team by a long stretch and it has as much to do with how he carries himself as it does his talent. It's the same kind of connection that Thurman Munson and Don Mattingly and Lou Gehrig once had with the New York fans, even though those guys were different personalities than Swish and had different talents. So I basically take the posts here with a grain of salt because we have a bunch of know-it-alls who actually know nothing about the specifics of the dynamics of the Swisher-fan relationship, never having watched it in action. I am pretty sure that the All Star team got a great addition and I am hopeful we will see Swisher come off the bench to pinch hit against a nasty righthander late in a tie game. Then you knuckleheads will realize the importance of having a guy like this on the team. We are trying to win the game - it means home field advantage in the World Series. It is not shits and giggles like everyone hear seems to think. It's a real game and a game that Swish will play to win.
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Why? He doesn't know a single thing about baseball. He's only here since Iggy posts in this thread. He's stalking him like he regularly did in the hockey threads. But now that he's been ordered to behave in those threads, he brings his little circus act here, even though he doesn't know shit about the game Abner Doubleday 'supposedly' invented, nor does he care about it. 90% of the stuff he posts is totally irrelevant & whose only purpose is to bait people into disagreeing with him or trying to get them suspended.
Anyways, love him or hate him, Joey C is our little buddy & we should all show him some love, right?
Hi Doc,
Yes we should show him some love. Some of your comments (if indeed true) as highlighted sure do sound allot like some other perpetrators here who are regularly in this thread. Hmmm...
Have fun,
Jman
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Well, sniff, sniff...sorry I had to dry my tears...
We can only hope that when the pathetic tweet begging moron does get up he does something that is way above his .250 lifetime and .128 post season batting average numbers. 'Cause Beav, the numbers say he sucks and does not deserve a spot on the team let alone a spot in your piece along side of some of the Yankee greats you bunched him with...
Anyway, I'm still glad you're happy about his place on the team and go AL. I am happy to see your passion for Swish and love affair with his persona have been satisfied. I just hope the stupidity of picking someone by how cute and cuddly he is vs. how well he can perform don't translate into a big let down.
Have fun,
Jman
PS I love the way you extrapolate peoples words and interpret meanings. Who ever said it was all shits and giggles? Do tell.
PPS And I'm thinking hid dad "earned" his spot on the team he was on.
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Hello all,
"We are trying to win the game". Note to all sports fans: WE'RE TRYING TO WIN. Hmmm!
Baseball is NOT about adoring some sweet teddy bear type whose cheeks one can't help pinching because he's so lovable. Aside from the reference to last night's game, there is nothing in this transcending fan relationship pie in the sky testimonial to idolization stuff above and previously that wouldn't also have put Michael Jackson, Madonna, Sarah Palin, President Obama, David Letterman, Lady Gaga, The Beatles, Marilyn Monroe, Shirley Temple, or even Lassie in the All-Star game.
When fan popularity trumps superior skills, accomplishment, and greater merit based on baseball talent you get pop idols and Swishers. Crafting a justification that avoids all the directly relevant Baseball skill and achievement comparisons to the competing players, while citing a highly flawed selection system just because it's always been done that way also justifies the many fan mistakes of sending those who didn't belong because they were past their merit and not up to the skills and production levels of current better players.
No I don't know much about the fan relationship between Swish and the Yankees fans, but if it's anything like what we see vividly displayed above Swisher needs to hire a lot more lawyers for a multitude of restraining orders...lol. You know, I wouldn't mind having Swisher on my team in place of some borderline players, but what we have in the post above is a made-up justification of sentiment that carefully avoids legitimate BASEBALL skill and achievement comparisons with obviously better players, and a fine testimonial of pinstripe fan devotion to a team legacy.
Lastly, I have no problems with Pettitte going to the All-Star game. He's proven he's still one of the best and he merits the spot...and probably proven he belongs in the Hall of Fame despite the steroids question mark. But Swisher got there because of fan population, self-promotion, and "puppy love". It's about the best players for the game, not team loyalty or fan-player male-bonding...lol. Swish can't be justified on the BASEBALL ACHIEVEMENT facts.
Hey I can Tweet better than Swish and I'm more lovable too. Tweet Tweet Tweet!
Really. Swish up there with Gehrig??? It does put the whole pro-Swish position in perspective...puppy love.
Cheers,
Merlot
"We are trying to win the game". Note to all sports fans: WE'RE TRYING TO WIN. Hmmm!
Baseball is NOT about adoring some sweet teddy bear type whose cheeks one can't help pinching because he's so lovable. Aside from the reference to last night's game, there is nothing in this transcending fan relationship pie in the sky testimonial to idolization stuff above and previously that wouldn't also have put Michael Jackson, Madonna, Sarah Palin, President Obama, David Letterman, Lady Gaga, The Beatles, Marilyn Monroe, Shirley Temple, or even Lassie in the All-Star game.
When fan popularity trumps superior skills, accomplishment, and greater merit based on baseball talent you get pop idols and Swishers. Crafting a justification that avoids all the directly relevant Baseball skill and achievement comparisons to the competing players, while citing a highly flawed selection system just because it's always been done that way also justifies the many fan mistakes of sending those who didn't belong because they were past their merit and not up to the skills and production levels of current better players.
No I don't know much about the fan relationship between Swish and the Yankees fans, but if it's anything like what we see vividly displayed above Swisher needs to hire a lot more lawyers for a multitude of restraining orders...lol. You know, I wouldn't mind having Swisher on my team in place of some borderline players, but what we have in the post above is a made-up justification of sentiment that carefully avoids legitimate BASEBALL skill and achievement comparisons with obviously better players, and a fine testimonial of pinstripe fan devotion to a team legacy.
Lastly, I have no problems with Pettitte going to the All-Star game. He's proven he's still one of the best and he merits the spot...and probably proven he belongs in the Hall of Fame despite the steroids question mark. But Swisher got there because of fan population, self-promotion, and "puppy love". It's about the best players for the game, not team loyalty or fan-player male-bonding...lol. Swish can't be justified on the BASEBALL ACHIEVEMENT facts.
Hey I can Tweet better than Swish and I'm more lovable too. Tweet Tweet Tweet!
Really. Swish up there with Gehrig??? It does put the whole pro-Swish position in perspective...puppy love.
Cheers,
Merlot
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I don't know what that means. Two teams are permitted to get together and make trades. If the Yankees are making the best offer to the Mariners, then the Mariners are entitled to accept it. Maybe the Yankees are in a position to make the best offer because all the horseshit you have heard in this thread about their lack of prospects is fucking bullshit. Obviously the Mariners like Montero and believe he is a good value for Lee. For the Yankees, they are stacked at catcher, with Romine and Sanchez behind him also major league prospects. So maybe Brian Cashman must know a little bit if other teams want the Yankees prospects and the Yankees have 2 other major league prospects at catcher in their system?
It's obvious what Cashman is doing but few are slick enough to see it. He will replace Vazquez with Lee, and once Lee is secured, Vazquez will be traded to the Phillies for Werth. Meaning that either Gardner or Granderson, probably Granderson, will be platooned with Werth. It's called building depth on a team and it's called putting a winning team on the field. He has been doing it for 13 years now so why is anyone claiming surprise? It's called seizing the moment. It's all done on a level playing field and within the rules. Cashman just happens to be a bit shrewder and a bit more aggressive than his peers. He is always one step ahead.
Approximately $50 million steps ahead to be precise...I believe you missed or are ignoring Doc's point...
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