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I was just in TO 2 weeks ago!!!!! Amazing City! I am thinking of going to a weekend series early in the 2011 season, you should plan to meet a few of us for it. The Jays are looking like a team on the upswing and always play us tough so should be a fun weekend series, plus you can see your Cupids friend again! :)

Date was awesome Igna, if your ever in TO I recommend her, nice gorgeous rack and the softest most amazing pussy that I have ever entered, a very nice girl.
 

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3. Waivers, designated for assignment, released all = the same thing, they equal he sucked and let go on July 31 because he was a bad trade and sign that never produced, it happens, more than ofton, especially to theo, lol.
Beltre was released on July 31???? On what planet????
 

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ROFL!!!!!!!! Ummmmm, Rumps, i know it is way past your bedtime and all, BUT, you better go back and read the post "correctly".... No wonder you were not making any sense, i had just grown accustomed to your routine so was just rolling my eyes at your silliness, i was talking about Hermida all along and if you could read and comprehend you would of known that... classic!

Beltre was released on July 31???? On what planet????
 

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Quoting the aptly named ignaramus "yea, the sox put him on waivers after they realized theo made ANOTHER bad signing. Joe, if Lee doesnt sign with the Bombers, who would you go after?"

Quote Originally Posted by Joe.t
"I wouldn't be surprised to see Beltre end up with Blue Jays or the Yankees.

Does anybody now what ever became of Jeremy Hermida, who was projected to stardom by rumples."

This is the quote Ignora. Since they signed Beltre and traded for Hermida, one could only think that you were referring the Beltre Deal.

ROFL. If you could think and comprehend, you'd know that you could only have been speaking about Beltre. Classic, but what could one expect from a man with a third grade education, who hasn't looked at a newspaper since 1980, and who gets all his knowledge from Joe.T.
 
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On the subject of Hermida, considering that they trading nothing to get him, he was a reasonable gamble at a fairly low cost. The Sox have been known to gamble on lost cost players over the years. They've gambled and lost, for example, on Wade Miller, John Smoltz, and Brad Penny, to name a few. They've also gambled and won. In 1995, they picked up a pitcher named Wakefield on waivers from Pittsburgh. That one worked out OK.

In 2003, they gambled on two players that nobody wanted. Jeremy Giambi didn't work out so well. The other one, a certain David Ortiz, seems to have done pretty well by the Sox. If I recall, he was a major contributor to two World Championships, including the biggest choke in sports history in 2004.
 

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Why would i be talking about Beltre?, someone said 'you cant put a free agent on waivers' duh Lol, your a piece of work, (among other things) entertaining in a weird kinda way, silly in another, but entertaining none the less, and now back tracking by more derogatory remarks, like your so good at.

Hermida was a bust, thats the point Joe was making, whats the matter grumples, can dish it out but cant take it back?, poor baby. grow up, grow a set or dont play. how old are you again??? ok, bring on the support!

Unless you see the need to continue about this, it is over. Lets move on to BASEBALL topics not involving the great signings of Theo and Brian, they both made great signings and they both have failed signings, it happens.



Quoting the aptly named ignaramus "yea, the sox put him on waivers after they realized theo made ANOTHER bad signing. Joe, if Lee doesnt sign with the Bombers, who would you go after?"

Quote Originally Posted by Joe.t
"I wouldn't be surprised to see Beltre end up with Blue Jays or the Yankees.

Does anybody now what ever became of Jeremy Hermida, who was projected to stardom by rumples."

This is the quote Ignora. Since they signed Beltre and traded for Hermida, one could only think that you were referring the Beltre Deal.

ROFL. If you could think and comprehend, you'd know that you could only have been speaking about Beltre. Classic, but what could one expect from a man with a third grade education, who hasn't looked at a newspaper since 1980, and who gets all his knowledge from Joe.T.
 

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Just like every team in EVERY sport, you take risks, i agree. some work out some dont, just like in the business world that we deal with on a daily basis.

On the subject of Hermida, considering that they trading nothing to get him, he was a reasonable gamble at a fairly low cost. The Sox have been known to gamble on lost cost players over the years. They've gambled and lost, for example, on Wade Miller, John Smoltz, and Brad Penny, to name a few. They've also gambled and won. In 1995, they picked up a pitcher named Wakefield on waivers from Pittsburgh. That one worked out OK.

In 2003, they gambled on two players that nobody wanted. Jeremy Giambi didn't work out so well. The other one, a certain David Ortiz, seems to have done pretty well by the Sox. If I recall, he was a major contributor to two World Championships, including the biggest choke in sports history in 2004.
 

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Actually, Jman, I think an awful lot of Swisher. Too bad he's a Yankee as he'd be quite likable in a different uni.

I don't disagree that he's a good ball player and he has some value as a switch...however, my comment was a sideways dig at his undeserving All Star selection over Youkilis coupled with the ridiculous nature of the Yankee fans here wanting to hang on to declining talent past their prime.


Be realistic, Jman. I've had more sophisticated baseball discussions with 10 year olds. The man/child is a moron and belongs on your ignore list as he is on mine.

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I have had more sophisticated baseball discussions with my dogs...:rolleyes:

I actually have used the ignore list also...I've put him there and then decided why should I let a "moron" dictate what I do and do not do...so now I just deal and ignore him publicly. You see to me when you do that to a personality type that is crying for attention, it simply infuriates/frustrates them even more;).

It's simply a matter of recognizing the childish games and cries for attention and then deciding whether you WANT to participate...simple.

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One of the reasons the Yankees were able to sign Mark Teixeira was the fact that his wife, Leigh, wanted to be in NY. Looks like Cliff Lee will be working elsewhere in 2011.
ESPN said:
Cliff Lee has kept up his poker face regarding where he might land as a free agent this offseason, so the baseball world is looking for any clues as to which way the left-hander is leaning.

Maybe the answer could come from his wife, Kristen, who may not be too keen on having her husband pitch for the New York Yankees. In analyzing Lee?s future free agency, Bob Nighthengale of USA Today writes that Kristen Lee didn't exactly enjoy her experience at Yankee Stadium during the ALCS.

"The fans did not do good things in my heart," Kristen says. "When people are staring at you, and saying horrible things, it's hard not to take it personal."

If Lee goes elsewhere, the blame could fall on the Bleacher Creatures.

USA Today said:
Fans' treatment of Cliff Lee's wife at Yankee Stadium might not help recruitment of one of the game's top left-handed pitchers.

During the AL Championship Series games in New York between the Yankees and Rangers, fans were extremely rude to Kristen Lee, spitting and throwing beer in her direction and shouting obscenities, according to USA Today.
 

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One of the reasons the Yankees were able to sign Mark Teixeira was the fact that his wife, Leigh, wanted to be in NY. Looks like Cliff Lee will be working elsewhere in 2011.

Would you expect anything else from the fans of NY? Typical classless group they are. Hopefully they fucked it up for themselves!
 

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And this from Rob Neyer at ESPN
Rob Neyer said:
From Bob Nightengale, here's a wonderful corrective for everyone who thinks Cliff Lee is merely on temporary loan to the Rangers from the Yankees:
"That's the greatest thing, being so close to home," says Kristen, who says she is superstitious and refuses to answer her phone when Lee pitches.

"Cliff can fit in anywhere, but it makes my life a lot easier. We've never had a short commute before. Having a direct flight from Little Rock is great."

Says Greenberg, whose ownership group took over the team in August after winning an auction in U.S. bankruptcy court: "We think we have things to offer from a lifestyle standpoint that are enormous advantages.

"We can't control what the Yankees or any other club chooses to offer. We know we're going to have to be aggressive financially.

"We're not going into this with a pea shooter. The old Rangers are gone."

Perhaps the Rangers' greatest sales pitch simply was having Kristen sit in the visiting family section at Yankee Stadium during the playoffs. She says there were ugly taunts. Obscenities. Cups of beer thrown. Even fans spitting from the section above.

"The fans did not do good things in my heart," Kristen says.

"When people are staring at you, and saying horrible things, it's hard not to take it personal."

After reading all of that, I would put the Yankees' chances of signing Cliff Lee south of 50 percent. Well south.
1 hour 10 minutes non-stop from Little Rock to Dallas. Not to mention how much easier DFW is to get into and out of than JFK.
 
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And this from Rob Neyer at ESPN

1 hour 10 minutes non-stop from Little Rock to Dallas. Not to mention how much easier DFW is to get into and out of than JFK.


Originally Posted by Rob Neyer
From Bob Nightengale, here's a wonderful corrective for everyone who thinks Cliff Lee is merely on temporary loan to the Rangers from the Yankees:
"That's the greatest thing, being so close to home," says Kristen, who says she is superstitious and refuses to answer her phone when Lee pitches.

"Cliff can fit in anywhere, but it makes my life a lot easier. We've never had a short commute before. Having a direct flight from Little Rock is great."

Says Greenberg, whose ownership group took over the team in August after winning an auction in U.S. bankruptcy court: "We think we have things to offer from a lifestyle standpoint that are enormous advantages.

"We can't control what the Yankees or any other club chooses to offer. We know we're going to have to be aggressive financially.

"We're not going into this with a pea shooter. The old Rangers are gone."

Perhaps the Rangers' greatest sales pitch simply was having Kristen sit in the visiting family section at Yankee Stadium during the playoffs. She says there were ugly taunts. Obscenities. Cups of beer thrown. Even fans spitting from the section above.

"The fans did not do good things in my heart," Kristen says.

"When people are staring at you, and saying horrible things, it's hard not to take it personal."


After reading all of that, I would put the Yankees' chances of signing Cliff Lee south of 50 percent. Well south.

Ahhh....New York, New York....start spreading the news....:rolleyes:

Of course the Yankees answer will just be to throw more money at it...here's hoping Kristen sticks to her guns and goes with her first impression about the obnoxious bunch of spoiled, ignorant, arrogant fans with a sense of entitlement larger than all of sports....
 
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Hello all,

Date was awesome Igna, if your ever in TO I recommend her, nice gorgeous rack and the softest most amazing pussy that I have ever entered, a very nice girl.

Isn't the love seat a little tight with Iggy there?

"We can't control what the Yankees or any other club chooses to offer. We know we're going to have to be aggressive financially.

"We're not going into this with a pea shooter. The old Rangers are gone."

Perhaps the Rangers' greatest sales pitch simply was having Kristen sit in the visiting family section at Yankee Stadium during the playoffs. She says there were ugly taunts. Obscenities. Cups of beer thrown. Even fans spitting from the section above.

"The fans did not do good things in my heart," Kristen says.

"When people are staring at you, and saying horrible things, it's hard not to take it personal."

After reading all of that, I would put the Yankees' chances of signing Cliff Lee south of 50 percent. Well south.

The trouble with this is that the Yankees are utterly shameless about inflating the true value of a player they want. The information I can find shows the Phillies contracted Lee for $8 million and the Rangers are paying him $9 million. The Yankees inflated Sabathia's salary from $11 million in 2008 to $15 million in 2009, and $24 million in 2010. Given Lee's last reported salary of $9 million a similar rate of inflation offer from the Yankees would likely be $12.5 million the first year and $20 million the second together with a Sabathia-esque long term player-option type of contract. How will Kristen's heart feel if the Yankees do their usual money-drowning drooling lust for top pitchers routine and throw those kinds of numbers at him and her...especially when one can't help but consider how most marriages end and what a divorce settlement would then be. Yes, it's a cynical perspective, but the prospect of about $135-140 million in 7 years would probably warm her heart and satisfy his ego under any future scenario. The question is how close can any other team come to that probability to keep those anti-Yankee feelings alive???

Sox considerations for Lee would seem to have to include the exit of Matsuzaka since they are extremely unlikely trade Beckett or Lackey with the burden of their fat contracts, and including either Lester or Buchholz in a trade for Lee would not be much of an overall improvement in my opinion. If anyone has a plausible scenario for bringing Lee to Boston and making a significant quality improvement by not giving up Lester or Buchholz I'd love to see it?

Cheers,

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Merlot,
Lee's last contract was signed in August of 2006. His value has risen substantially. Look at the contracts given to Sabathia, Lackey, Beckett and Burnett. Lee is likely to get from $23-$25 M; while I suspect he'll give the Rangers a $2 M or so "hometown discount," what is likely to make the difference is the length of the contract. Given Lee's age, 32, I doubt Cashdollar will go more than 4 years; Texas will certainly match that.
 

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Merlot,
Lee's last contract was signed in August of 2006. His value has risen substantially. Look at the contracts given to Sabathia, Lackey, Beckett and Burnett. Lee is likely to get from $23-$25 M; while I suspect he'll give the Rangers a $2 M or so "hometown discount," what is likely to make the difference is the length of the contract. Given Lee's age, 32, I doubt Cashdollar will go more than 4 years; Texas will certainly match that.

Hello Rumples,

It wouldn't surprise me or anyone at all if the numbers went that high. But, I was going by the numbers here: http://www.thebaseballcube.com/Salaries/L/Cliff-Lee.shtml

2006-2009 Signed 4-year, $15,000,000 contract with the Cleveland Indians on Aug 9,2006. Club option for 2010 ($8m)
2010-2010 Signed 1-year, $8,000,000 contract with the Philadelphia Phillies on Nov 6,2009. Option exercised by Philles before trade to Mariners


ary (US $) Rank Lg Avg (US $) Centile
2002 *200,000 1,654,088 80
2003 300,900 1,773,364 61
2004 303,200 1,716,303 63
2005 345,000 1,825,756 52
2006 406,200 1,937,004 46
2007 *3,000,000 2,923,340 35
2008 4,000,000 NA 29
2009 6,000,000 NA 20
2010 9,000,000 98 0 13
Career: $23,555,300 estimate

Even at 32 years old I'd bet the Yankees would go 5 years to get him.

In other news ESPN reported the Yankees have labeled Jeter and Rivera "legacy players" indicating contract offers will match their status. Jeter is 37 and Rivera will be 41 on November 29. Great players in their day, the Yankees are now trapping themselves into financing a mega-bucks sure decline for both players. A 4-year offer for Jeter would very likely showcase his fall to number the 7-9 hitting slots, if not to DH, and as legendary as Rivera is it's almost definite that he would face a similar degrading scenario. Such contracts honor achievements, but is this what is best for the team?

Cheers,

Merlot
 

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2006-2009 Signed 4-year, $15,000,000 contract with the Cleveland Indians on Aug 9,2006. Club option for 2010 ($8m)
2010-2010 Signed 1-year, $8,000,000 contract with the Philadelphia Phillies on Nov 6,2009. Option exercised by Philles before trade to Mariners
I don't know why the Cube would say he signed a contract for 2010 with the Phillies. As it also clearly states, he was already under contract for 2010; all the Phillies did was exercise the option.

I don't expect Rivera to want or get a contract for more than 2 years, which should be fine. As for Jeter, I hope they give him the ranch. There's really no place for him to play. He can't field his position. He doesn't hit enough to be a DH. And he's certainly not a leadoff hitter. He may be a legacy, but he's also going to be an albatross.
 

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I don't know why the Cube would say he signed a contract for 2010 with the Phillies. As it also clearly states, he was already under contract for 2010; all the Phillies did was exercise the option.

I don't expect Rivera to want or get a contract for more than 2 years, which should be fine. As for Jeter, I hope they give him the ranch. There's really no place for him to play. He can't field his position. He doesn't hit enough to be a DH. And he's certainly not a leadoff hitter. He may be a legacy, but he's also going to be an albatross.

I'm thinking they give them both a concession named after themselves, a padded stool to sit on so they can sign baseballs and sling food. Give 'em 50% of the night revenue stream.

Mo's already got an in with the Taco Bell Chalupa thing...so that one is set: Mo's Lights Out Chalupa's.
As for Jeter, well with his history with the ladies...Derek's Foot Long Dogs is another natural...:rolleyes:

Sorry Rumples...could not resist...lol.
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Have fun,

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PS Merlot...LOL!!!
 

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Lets recap the day, rumples owned like usual, (by moi of course, lol.,.. your right Joe) jman the good follower like always, good boy, sit! :) merlot, as always full of hot air, and K, im surprised at you.... overall..... Yanks fans +1 , classless red sox fans, -4 ..... Great Day indeed! :)


And here is to a Great World Series, lets hope the Giants or Rangers do the Yankees justice as worthy Champions!

(boston, maybe next year, but dont hold your breath)
 
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Back to baseball...WS starts tonight. Lee is a proven performer on the big stage...Lincecum has the stuff, but the kid will have to be nervous as hell. Should be a great game in a pinstripe free WS.
Frankly, I don't see Lincecum being nervous. He's a unique kid.

Let's Go Rangers!
The sight of George W Bush next to Nolan Ryan has me rooting for the Giants in a giant shift for me. I ALWAYS root for the AL team when they're not the Yankees, but not this time. Also, my two favorite cities on this continent are Montreal and San Francisco; I have no love for anything Texas.

I'm not going to comment on your deadly accurate rant about Ignora, as he isn't worth the time or effort. Essentially, he doesn't exist.
 
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