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man77777

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These guys can't face defeat, it terrifies them!

Your Leafs accept it really easier... Out of habit...

Quite funny to see the fans of the others teams here, criticizing a team who went farther in the competition for some and WAY farther for the others than their own teams :confused:. Amnésy, indencency or jealousy ? ;)

For exemple, if (when) Rangers will be in Finale, after beating my team, I won't have enough indencency to come here and criticizing the way they'll play their Finale... :rolleyes:
 

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These guys can't face defeat, it terrifies them! :rolleyes:
Unlike the Maple Leafs, who appear to be very comfortable losing. They have never won a conference final in their history. That is understandable given the rarity of their appearances in the playoffs. They were only allowed into the post season once in the last ten years. Like a person who almost never gets invited to parties, they exhibited their unfamiliarity and nervousness by getting drunk and pissing on the carpet.

Two more games to go & the habs will be practicing their swings on the local links.
There again, they have much to learn from the Leafs who, as usual, have enjoyed an extra month of practice.
 

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Lol anon_vlad, reading Doc and knowing the results of his team, you sometime wonder how the hell a Dwarf can laugh at the small size of a Giant...
 

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Brendan Gallagher has been doing the same thing INTENTIONALLY all season long & yet habs fans (incl. local media) praised him for his 'determination' and 'courage' every time he'd run the goalie. As the ol' saying goes: "Karma's a bitch!" :nod:


Gallagher is 5' 9" at 178lbs, while Kreider is 6' 3" at 226lbs and YOU MAKE A COMPARISON. Tell MR. Expert, when has Gallagher injured a goalie?

Come on, tell me. NEVER !! Gallagher has been praised for standing in front of the net and taking a beating from much bigger players.

Karma is when a fan boast, after 10 games into the season, I repeat, 10 not 70 games, that their team is in FIRST place. HAHAHA
 

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I agree. The play happened so fast & there is no way in hell that it was intentional on Kreider's part. There is only one player in the entire NHL who likely sincerely believes it was intentional, and that's the dumbest man in hockey, Brandon Prust. I'm certain he's convinved that Kreider had planned it all along.

SK, habs fans will never get over it. They're still pissed at Chara's LEGAL hit on Max Pacioretty 4-5 years ago! The habs fans lead the league in excuses year after year!! It's usually not just the fans, but their coach & some of their players. Year after year, it's the same story. These guys can't face defeat, it terrifies them! :roll eyes:


This is coming from a leaf's fan that used every excuse in the book as to why the leafs were losing, all season long and then is stone dead, nothing, when

they don't make the playoffs. The Habs ARE in the playoffs, bud. Get over it. The Habs are a far better team and their fans expect it. I can see

that you face defeat, with dignity, because you are so use to it. It is just too bad that the season is a 82 and NOT a 48 game season.

There is no doubt, you sir, will USE every excuse for the leaf's failure, yet again, next season. Looking forward to it.
 

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It was a huge slap in the to Petr Budaj, who's been the team's backup all season long & still has a year left on his contract.

Tokarski is a career minor leaguer who'll never find regular employment in the NHL. He's not even among the top 3 goalies in the organization. He's #4. Devyn Dubnyk, whom they acquired at the trade deadline, is #3. If Tokarski really did give them the best chance to win, he wouldn't have spent his entire career in the minors. He's 24 and he's already with his 2nd organization, and likely will never play an entire season for the habs.

Therrien took a chance and it blew right up in his face. Tokarski had no chance on the first goal, but Carey Price & any #1 goaltender would have likely stopped the next two goals.

But let's face it: even having a healthy Carey Price in the lineup probably wouldn't have changed the final outcome. You need to score more than one goal in order to win. If you don't & you still managed to win, then you didn't deserve to & were shit-lucky. Two more games to go & the habs will be practicing their swings on the local links.

Talking like a knowledgable leaf's fan. Budaj, let in 3 goals on 8 shots in the 3rd period in game#1 and you think he is insulted ?

Tokarski played well. The first goal was a deflection, no fault on his part. Lundqvist was the difference.

Tokarski will play in the NHL, maybe not for the Habs, but he will play, hopefully not for the dismal leafs.

The Habs have a future goaltender, in Furcale. What do the leafs have? And do Hab's fans care ? Not really

Lets face it, anything you say about the Montreal Canadiens, Canada's team, is just verbal diarrhea.!!:amen:
 

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Gallagher is 5' 9" at 178lbs, while Kreider is 6' 3" at 226lbs and YOU MAKE A COMPARISON. Tell MR. Expert, when has Gallagher injured a goalie?

Come on, tell me. NEVER !! Gallagher has been praised for standing in front of the net and taking a beating from much bigger players.

Karma is when a fan boast, after 10 games into the season, I repeat, 10 not 70 games, that their team is in FIRST place. HAHAHA

Hell may be freezing over right now but Doc is right. Brendan Gallagher ended Jhonas Enroth's season last March on this rush.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=578897
 

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Unlike the Maple Leafs, who appear to be very comfortable losing......

Why did I have the feeling that even though this conversation has zero to do with the Leafs and has everything to do with the habs, some frustrated old man would bring them up? :lol:
 

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Your Leafs accept it really easier... Out of habit...

Correction. I'm a NY Rangers fan. Go Rangers! :thumb:

p.s. I've been a fan of the Rangers since the early 70's when they were led by Emille "The Cat" Francis, Eddie Giacomin, Rod Gilbert, Vic Hadfield, Jean Ratelle and Brad Park, among others. Love them!
 

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For exemple, if (when) Rangers will be in Finale, after beating my team, I won't have enough indencency to come here and criticizing the way they'll play their Finale... :rolleyes:

My Rangers WILL beat your habs. Bank on it.

However, i won't object if you want to return here & share your brilliant hockey observations with the group. Why, i'd be offended if you did not! ;)

Here is a dose of reality for you clueless habs fans:

The playoffs are nothing but a tool used by billionaire sports team owners to make hundreds of millions of dollars more in order to replenish their Swiss bank accounts & continue buidling their respective families' legacy. They prey on their unsuspecting fans who will shell out half of their bi-weekly paycheques in order to attend a 'playoff' game in person, even though every game is now being shown on television.

A few years from now, it wouldn't surprise me if the owners managed to get their way & have every single NHL team make the playoffs in order to increase revenue. They've beein considering it for several years. More revenue is the only reason why the playoffs are now all best-of-sevens. In the 70's, the earlier series were best-of-threes.

Other than putting hundreds of millions of dollars in each billionaire owner's cashbox, playoffs are nothing more but a giant waste of time except for the team winning the top prize. By mid-June, the players are exhausted, the fans are sick of watching hockey, and the players don't make much money during the playoffs. When a team gets eliminated from the playoffs, you'd be surprised at how many players are actually relieved by this. They can get back to their families & rest their bodies. Teams that get far in the playoffs usually don't have much time to rest until they have to start getting ready for the next season, and are always on the road & many away from their families. Why do you think Tomas Vanek's mind is elsewhere these days? When's the last time he's spent more than 2 days with his family? Months.

If i put things into perspective & if i knew in advance that any particular team i cheer for will not win the Stanley Cup, i'd rather they do not make the playoffs, stay home & rest with their families. They don't need the bonus money from the playoffs since most of them are already millionaires, and i don't really care if the billionaire owner(s) of the team doesn't get their hundreds of millions more in revenue. Stay home, relax, rest your injuries....and spend quality time with your families until mid-August when training camps will begin.

The playoffs are a sham & i only watch them to see the habs get their asses handed back to them.

If the NY Rangers beat the habs in four games, i will be in extasy!!! Heck, if you'd tell me that if the Rangers swept the Habs in four but it would mean that the Leafs would not make the playoffs for the next five years, i'd take the option of the Rangers sweeping the habs anytime!!!! Anytime!!! :thumb:

Note: I dislike the habs so much that the other day, i refused to sell one of my cars to someone simply because i found out he was a habs fan. True story.
 

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Canadiens have zero chance at winning this series. Price's injury put the nail in the playoff coffin. Unfortunate incident.

I'm disappointed in the injury. Price was the best player by miles for the Canadiens thus far in the series and is easily a huge part of their wins and losses in this year's playoffs. I wouldn't be surprised if they get swept.

You seem to forget that you need to score more than one goal in order to win a playoff game. You can't expect Carey Price to shut-out the Rangers every game. They destroyed him in the first game & it would have been deja vu all over again had he played.

All season long, the habs relied on their goaltender way too many times to bail them out. They were terrible 5-on-5, but found ways to score on the powerplay and were opportunistic all season long. But now it's the playoffs and they're facing the best teams in the league who know how to shut-out a powerplay & find ways to beat a good goaltender.

Montreal likely never would have beat Tampa Bay had Ben Bishop played for the Bolts. Now it's Montreal's turn to know how it feels to lose a top goaltender. Imagine how Tampa felt?? Even though Lindback couldn't stop a beach ball in that series, they still managed to keep every game close & Ben Bishop definitely would have made a difference.

But if you look at Montreal right now, it's the same story all over: they can't seem to score. Pacioretty has struggled, Vanek is nowhere to be found, and Plekanek can't even win faceoffs and play good defensively anymore. They are a team in dissaray, and they don't have their star goalie to bail them out this time around. At least they still have PK Subban to give some offensive punch, but he's terrible defensively & on the ice most of the time the Rangers score. This means that when they don't score on the powerplay, where he excels, he becomes a liability. A minus (-) player.
 

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Ladies?...and Gentlemen.

I'm disappointed in the injury. Price was the best player by miles for the Canadiens.

When Price is on his game he can be almost unbeatable. But any goalie is the most important player, so the loss would be the same for any team.

Maybe I am giving you guys too much credit to actually be fans of hockey as an overall sport but when it gets to the playoffs you should WANT to see all teams playing with all their best players. The Rangers should WANT to beat the Canadiens with Price in goal. .

Just like I wanted Gronkowski healthy for the Patriots in the last Super Bowl. It sucked he couldn't play more than a few minutes. But I never called the original hit dirty or blamed anyone for not wanting to see a great Super Bowl with healthy players, and I never though of using a total trash label. The injury is just a fact of life. Some of you have done a very sad job of dealing with that.

To the Habs haters enjoy the glory you get from their loss. Shows a lot of character when you need to cheer against a team.

Actually, I was publicly for the Habs over the Leafs during the season. A few of YOU have given good cause to change that. I don't have hate for the Habs, just revulsion for the character of comments, which has been bad in the extreme at times. Speaking of character, let's not pretend you didn't know "white trash" is a despicable semi-racist label...hatefully xenophobic at best. Yet the L-A-D-Y had no qualms about using it. :rolleyes:

Hell may be freezing over right now but Doc is right. Brendan Gallagher ended Jhonas Enroth's season last March on this rush.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=578897

To be honest I viewed the video where G1G seemed to be admitting it was a dirty play. After watching it several times it's very clear Gallagher was hit from behind in the upper back at the last possible moment spinning his body so that he couldn't help his skates being thrust toward the goalie. There's no way Gallagher could have controlled the chance to take a dirty shot the way this happened. It was incidental and it just shows shit happens no matter what uniform you wear.

Apologies to 77777 and others who are so disappointed with my taking an honest stand on the Canadiens side, instead of using childish manipulation.

Gallagher is 5' 9" at 178lbs, while Kreider is 6' 3" at 226lbs and YOU MAKE A COMPARISON. Tell MR. Expert, when has Gallagher injured a goalie? Come on, tell me. NEVER !!

:lol: Too bad even your Habs buddy G1G called you out. Perfect example of misplaced fanboy mania versus honesty.

He did nothing to really avoid him. We’re in the NHL.

Okay, I just read about his, was it 6'3" 225 lbs size, going at speed beyond most professional hockey players, enough to split two Canadiens, and you expect what...the control of all of that mass and momentum while trying to score as he's being tripped as if he was a petite gymnast doing a planned tumbling act???? C"MON! That's not reasonable. :rolleyes:

And once again here are the statements on the incident from two experts (insiders) that were better informed and know the reputation of Kreider better than an outsider like me who has never played pro hockey!

“Looking at the incident, it’s a reckless play,” said Therrien. “That’s the truth. And Kreider, this is not the first time that he is going at goalies. We end up losing our best player, but our group has faced a lot of adversity through the course of the season, and we responded, and we had the attitude to respond really well. And that’s what I’m expecting, starting tonight.”

Sunday, Montreal players expressed some anger with the hit. Forward Brandon Prust said, “Everybody says it’s accidental, but it’s accidental on purpose. He did nothing to really avoid him. We’re in the NHL. We know how to fall, how to not put our skates first when we fall. He did the same thing against [Marc-André] Fleury in the last series. I mean, he’s not doing anything to avoid him. It’s not totally intentional, but he doesn’t do anything to lighten it up a bit.”

Yes, you get all the credit for being honest.

Having seen the play a couple of dozen times now, especially in slow motion close up, I can understand why Habs fan feel the way the most unyielding critics of Kreider feel. The camera shows a devastating view of the skates coming at Price. It's very hard to take or give in that this could have been 100% accidental. Adding in that the loss of this one specific player ends a year in which the Habs played very well against the team some fans have a psychotic hatred of, and may well have gotten to the finals with a chance to win a CUP after 21 years...it's DEVASTATING. No question. Just like when Brady when down in the first quarter of the first game of the year 2008 after just missing the perfect season. Because it's so hard to take you almost need to yell C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y!!! I looked at the hit on Brady and almost wanted it to be a deliberate dirty play. How can simple chance just do this. But like that perfect all-around kid who just graduated high school who everyone expects will go so far in life but gets killed by one tiny mistake, sometimes pure chance ends everything.

Looking at the Therrien quote you posted I see a ton of frustration, tough disappointment, and the need to believe it couldn't just be an accident. You'll notice he carefully avoids say anything about the two Montreal players swinging sticks, especially Emelin taking out Kreider's foot at the critical moment. I'm not saying Therrien doesn't believe all of what he said, but it leaves out the key cause, and it's perfectly crafted to fit what Habs fans want and in some cases needed to hear. There's no way he could say our guy Emelin initiated the sequence that caused Price to be put out of the series...be totally honest with Habs fans with the way feelings are running so angrily at this time...as abundantly evidenced on this board.

You know reputation alone proves nothing in any specific case, especially since reputation did not make Emelin knock the feet from under Kreider and cause this.

... Montreal is not the Evil cause your bruins have been eliminated by them...

So you deliberately misquote me, leaving off the critical end. Sorry you're so crushed by Price's loss that you've quit on honesty. Yet...I expected that, knowing you.

Cheers,

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Note: I dislike the habs so much that the other day, i refused to sell one of my cars to someone simply because i found out he was a habs fan. True story.

I laughed until I read the "true story". A perfect exemple of where sport shouldn't lead to...
 

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Correction. I'm a NY Rangers fan.

You're incredible Doc, everybody here knows you as a Leaf fan, you wrote thousand of posts about it, and now you give them up for a better team.. Ahahah, what a nerve, I love it ! :thumb:
 

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Hating a team is the best compliment you can give to it. That's why I analyze the mutual hatred between Mtl fans and Bruins fans as a big unconscious and unavowable respect.

That's also why Leafs fans hate Mtl so much but Mtl fans just don't care about them...
 
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