2013/2014 Official NHL Thread

[EagerBeaver]

This is a total overreaction. Kreider is a big fast guy and his style is to drive hard at the net. When you are tripped at that velocity, it is hard or impossible to take evasive action. He is a good kid and a fine player.

It's hockey and the game is played at a fast pace and injuries like this, unfortunate though they may be, are going to happen.

 

[lgna69xxx]

I have watched the play over and over.... it was a normal hockey play in the heat of the moment, no more no less. It sucks that Price is out but this is Montreal's chance to prove they are NOT just a good team because of their goalie..... time to show otherwise. This could actually inspire the team.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I have watched the play over and over.... it was a normal hockey play in the heat of the moment, no more no less.

100% correct.

 

[lgna69xxx]

And i respect yours as well brother. It really is a shame, as Price is one of the few habs i actually like and is a world class talent but hockey is not touch football and these things happen.

"I respect your opinions gentlemen.”

 

[EagerBeaver]

Sharkman, those are the statement of a coach looking to fire up his badly beat down team based on whatever artificial motivation he can muster. Come on now. A coach has to use anything he can to his advantage.

 

[Special K]

I've also watched this numerous times and it doesn't appear to me that Kreider intentionally went in to injure Price. If there's any penalty that should have been given was Emelin for slashing Kreider and causing him to lose his balance (the 1:20 mark shows this clearly.)

It was a hard hockey play and Habs fans need to get over it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4IdpqvYtM

 

[Special K]

Smuler...What's gotten into Rick Nash? LMAO!!!

Montreal pretty much dominated that entire 1st period and the Rangers come away with a 2-1 lead. That has to be disheartening to the Habs.

 

[smuler]

Smuler...What's gotten into Rick Nash? LMAO!!!

He's gotta wake up.. When he's on, nobody can take the puck away from him

In true Ranger fashion, we took way too long to acquire him

Trust me .. Steven Delisle was the disappointment of this trade ...

http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=8192330&city=newyork&src=desktop

Best Regards

Smuler

 

[EagerBeaver]

smuler,

As I told my cousin who said Rick Nash "is due".....................he's been due for 2 years. But in sports, better late than never.

Meanwhile Martin St. Louis is playing for Mom, and it is showing. Never underestimate the pride and guts and heart of a champion! St. Louis was a big part of that Stanley Cup in TB.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Through 2 periods, shots are pretty even, but Lundqvist has saved .955% of shots while Tokarski has saved .850%. That is the difference between a King, and one who serves the King, a serf.

 

[Merlot]

I respect your opinions gentlemen, but I am on the side of Habs Coach Therrien on this one:

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hocke...y_price_out_of_eastern_final_with_injury.html

Sharkman,

You're usually very lucid about things, but this time you're way off the beam. The video I provided at the time indicated, and yours at 1:16 absolutely shows Emelin wacking the right foot or ankle of Kreider as he's bringing that foot forward to shift his weight onto. He couldn't do that because he was hit and had nothing under him to continue his stride.

I don't know much about Kreider, so this stuff about him being a bully or dirty player is your call. However, that has nothing to do with the facts of the video. You have the announcer himself saying as he watches the slow motion replay that same thing that Emelin caused the fall. Emelin's stick takes a hard bounce of Kreider's foot. That had to be painful besides breaking his stride. You guys are making a judgment based on uniforms, not clear direct evidence.

Besides, the article you provided has Therrien and other players admitting the Canadiens just played like crap and saying "they were on the puck, they were aggressive, they were hungry. We weren’t ready, it’s as simple as that". So all this blaming Kreider stuff is bull. I said the excuses would flow...what a surprise...NOT!

Don't go down 0-2 at home or it's over.


Montreal, meanwhile, has been riding the comparatively pedestrian emotion of this town and their hatred of Boston, and maybe that’s why Therrien said this would “bring us back to earth.”
“The rivalry is not maybe as big as Boston,” said David Desharnais. “Now it’s on, I guess.”

BTW: if the team needs hate to play well, if the Habs and their fans get more motivated to play Boston than to win the CUP...it's a very sad statement on team character and goals.

Cheers,

Merlot

 

[EagerBeaver]

Lundqvist saved 40 of 41 shots, a .976 save % for the game!! King!!!!!!!!

 

[man77777]

It takes a lot of dishonety to say that Kreider has done it voluntarly and it takes a lot of dishonesty to say that he hasn't done it voluntarly. nobody is in his head..

So if you're a habs fan, you're gonna cry that Kreider is a criminal. And if you still hasn't digested the fact your team has been eliminated by the habs, then you'll be sure Kreider is innocent...

It's obvious that you can't go anywhere in Stanley Cup without a good goalie. The 2 others goalies simply don't have the level. IMO, PLayoffs 2014 are done for habs. Injuries is part of Sport. I hope that habs gonna fight, they'll take at least 3goals in every games with these goalies, OK then score at least 4times, guys !

 

[Merlot]

So if you're a habs fan, you're gonna cry that Kreider is a criminal. And if you still hasn't digested the fact your team has been eliminated by the habs, then you'll be sure Kreider is innocent...

And if you just can't find it within yourself to be honest you play phony dishonest word games blaming others. Honesty is not safe in Montreal where it concerns hockey and daring to go against the Kool-Aid.

I noticed you didn't give an opinion on the hit to Krieder's foot. Fence-sitting? Or too stubborn to be honest? The video is irrefutable. MEN deal with it...HONESTLY. There's no disputing the fact he was tripped. To then have the foresight in a tiny split second to deliberately take out Price with intent to injure would be near miraculous...a heck of a lot tougher than a seasoned veteran being unable to avoid knocking the net off the mounts unhindered.

0-2 Canadiens at home.

Merlot

 

[man77777]

Honesty is not safe in Montreal where it concerns hockey.

Honesty is not safe in any fans head in every teams and sports of the world... Montreal is not the Evil cause your bruins have been eliminated by them... Come on Merlot, regain self-control...

 

[man77777]

He did nothing to really avoid him. We’re in the NHL. We know how to fall, how to not put our skates first when we fall. He did the same thing against [Marc-André] Fleury in the last series."

Convincing, but not enough to be sure. IMO, players and coach shouldn't even talk about it. It's not good for the team spirits, and it's not fair-play for Rangers.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Kredier is a fucking punk , who has pulled this shit over and over again. This is the third time and the league is taking no actin against it. WTF !!!!!!

Brendan Gallagher has been doing the same thing INTENTIONALLY all season long & yet habs fans (incl. local media) praised him for his 'determination' and 'courage' every time he'd run the goalie. As the ol' saying goes: "Karma's a bitch!" :nod:

 

[Doc Holliday]

Sharkman, those are the statement of a coach looking to fire up his badly beat down team based on whatever artificial motivation he can muster. Come on now. A coach has to use anything he can to his advantage.

Exactly. Habs fans are so gullible. Therrien was the first one to say after last Saturday's game that the incident involving Kreider and Price was not intentional on the part of Kreider. However, now that his star goalie is on the shelf for likely the rest of the playoffs, Therrien needed to do something in order to fire up his zombies.

It's funny that no one has mentionned Mike Weaver's head shot on Derrek Brassard, which has knocked him out indefinitely with a concussion. Even some members of the local media were saying yesterday that if we're to criticize Kreider for his hit on Price, then the same criticism should be directed towards Mike Weaver, who's hit to Brassard's head was as dangerous, if not more.

Hopefully Brassard won't miss too many games. But you have to be cautious when it comes to head injuries.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I've also watched this numerous times and it doesn't appear to me that Kreider intentionally went in to injure Price. If there's any penalty that should have been given was Emelin for slashing Kreider and causing him to lose his balance (the 1:20 mark shows this clearly.)

It was a hard hockey play and Habs fans need to get over it.

I agree. The play happened so fast & there is no way in hell that it was intentional on Kreider's part. There is only one player in the entire NHL who likely sincerely believes it was intentional, and that's the dumbest man in hockey, Brandon Prust. I'm certain he's convinved that Kreider had planned it all along.

SK, habs fans will never get over it. They're still pissed at Chara's LEGAL hit on Max Pacioretty 4-5 years ago! The habs fans lead the league in excuses year after year!! It's usually not just the fans, but their coach & some of their players. Year after year, it's the same story. These guys can't face defeat, it terrifies them!

 

[Doc Holliday]

Tokarski's stats look a little better than Budaj's. The coaching staff sees these guys in practice and they have to go with whomever they think gives them the best chance to win.

It was a huge slap in the to Petr Budaj, who's been the team's backup all season long & still has a year left on his contract.

Tokarski is a career minor leaguer who'll never find regular employment in the NHL. He's not even among the top 3 goalies in the organization. He's #4. Devyn Dubnyk, whom they acquired at the trade deadline, is #3. If Tokarski really did give them the best chance to win, he wouldn't have spent his entire career in the minors. He's 24 and he's already with his 2nd organization, and likely will never play an entire season for the habs.

Therrien took a chance and it blew right up in his face. Tokarski had no chance on the first goal, but Carey Price & any #1 goaltender would have likely stopped the next two goals.

But let's face it: even having a healthy Carey Price in the lineup probably wouldn't have changed the final outcome. You need to score more than one goal in order to win. If you don't & you still managed to win, then you didn't deserve to & were shit-lucky. Two more games to go & the habs will be practicing their swings on the local links.