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Transgender who advertise as female escorts... right or wrong?

cloudsurf

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Nobody agreed with the guy ( post 30) and nobody else threatened violence.
Personally I think the guy should apologize or be reprimanded by a Mod.
The girls on the other hand insulted those that were merely advocating honesty in advertising....what is their agenda?
 

Meatonastick

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Someone in post #30 said they would beat the crap out of a trans and nobody cares.
A few comments about masculinity and guys go nuts.

Insults bad, threatening violence good?

That's a threat and not an insult.

Btw can you show me how you reached the conclusion that violence is good based on anything said in this thread? No one supported that violent comment...

Not that I condone violence but again, there ARE people out there that would react the same way if they found out that their "female" companion was actually born a man. Under the right circumstances anyone can snap...

Btw westwoody, you're a female aren't you...?
 

lgna69xxx

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The guy who said that (the post that was deleted) has a history of saying things in a misogynistic way and should be as far away from this "hobby" as possible.

Other than his post i do not see much of anything that was offensive and things have been very cival. I understand the ladies have friends in the business who are TS and feel the need to stick up for them and that is fine even admirable but when nobody but one guy is bashing TS people there is no need to include everyone or "most" everyone who has posted in this thread.

Like i said i have had TS people come to the VIP parties in the past and will in the future as everyone in the business is welcome which i have always stated but i still draw the line on anyone intentionally not telling someone something that could sway their decision on seeing them such as the title of this thread. As i said before why is there even a discussion about this other than it is clearly wrong, it is not even defendable, even by a lawyer so EB please do not take the case unless you want a loss on your record. ;)
Someone in post #30 said they would beat the crap out of a trans and nobody cares.
A few comments about masculinity and guys go nuts.

Insults bad, threatening violence good?
 

lgna69xxx

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Talkinghead,

You have to understand where Hungry101 is coming from. I have known him for years and he is a great guy and his main fault is he is sick of political correctness that does nothing but continue to cause more problems than it does good (ok not really a fault) I fully agree with him by the way but do not ofton voice my opinion about it as much as he does. But it is in fact "his opinion" to do so and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, in fact if more people stopped with the political correctness BS this world would be a better place in the long run.

Brilliant. I suggest an intelligent (not emotional) discussion and you respond with ?? resentment and insult. Well played.
 

westwoody

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Igna you are right.
I had a gay friend beaten to death once and it is still a sensitive issue.
Too many looked the other way when it could have been stopped.
So I see that crap posted by an internet warrior I cannot let it slide. Where was the condemnation?
If he had said the same about a woman who misled him about her bra size would it still be up?

BTW I am male.
And I am out of here, should never have looked at this thread.
 

lgna69xxx

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I was not talking about you being far away from this hobby lol..re read what i wrote my friend.
Igna you are right.
I had a gay friend beaten to death once and it is still a sensitive issue.
BTW I am male.
And I am out of here, should never have looked at this thread.
 

lgna69xxx

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I edited my post, sorry for the confusion. You are very polite to the ladies and have an open invitation to any VIP event you want to come to.
 

Meatonastick

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Igna you are right.
I had a gay friend beaten to death once and it is still a sensitive issue.
Too many looked the other way when it could have been stopped.
So I see that crap posted by an internet warrior I cannot let it slide. Where was the condemnation?
If he had said the same about a woman who misled him about her bra size would it still be up?

BTW I am male.
And I am out of here, should never have looked at this thread.

If you equate a difference in bra size with a difference in gender then the only logical conclusion I can reach based on your words is that you must be gay. That's not an insult btw.

Sorry about your friend but you've only added to my argument that there ARE people out there that are violent and need to be stopped. Duping clients by not revealing you're a transgender increases the odds of something happening and COULD set someone off...
 

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Without taking the time to read this entire thread, no it's not ok, in fact it's fraud, or even theft by deception
 
At the core, I think where the issue lies is a direct result of what we believe a female/woman is. My definition of a female is not solely based on the XX chromosome and the reproductive system (as some have already implied in this thread).

Besides the fact that some men and women are born with extra chromosomes (could be an X or a Y) that have various effects on the body, some XX females are also born with various conditions that, according to (some of) your definitions might not make them women despite the X chromosome. A few examples:

- The Mayer-Rokitansky-Küster-Hauser syndrome (congenital absence of uterus and vagina)
- Hypoplasia (underdevelopment or incomplete development of a tissue or organ)
- Intersex: is one possessing any of several variations in sex characteristics including chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones, or genitals that, according to the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, "do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies"

On chromosomes:
Humans, as well as some other organisms, can have a chromosomal arrangement that is contrary to their phenotypic sex; for example, XX males or XY females (see androgen insensitivity syndrome). Additionally, an abnormal number of sex chromosomes (aneuploidy) may be present, such as Turner's syndrome, in which a single X chromosome is present, and Klinefelter's syndrome, in which two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome are present, XYY syndrome and XXYY syndrome.[SUP][2][/SUP] Other less common chromosomal arrangements include: triple X syndrome, 48, XXXX, and 49, XXXXX.

My point: aside from the endless examples I could provide you with (that affect both male and females), biology of the male and female is not as black and white as some would like to believe, and, in my own opinion, being a male or female goes way beyond genetic chromosomes and the possession or lack thereof of internal organs.

Like I said in my very first post in this thread, please do some research and educate yourselves before passing judgement onto others- others that defer from the norm and the black & white standards established by society.

Edit--add-on:
As far as advertising and post-op transgenders, I have mixed feelings on the issue.

This strikes me as getting to the point. Is this forum a place for locker room talk or is this forum a place for scholarly discussion? And what really strikes me is the "or" in that sentence. I love intelligent, informed, educated, reasoned, literate discussion--"scholarly talk"--but I certainly don't insist on it in every corner of an escort forum. And yet, in addition to the locker-room banter (a term Trump employed yesterday), why can't we also have a thoughtful discussion on gender and identity, as some in this thread are attempting? Why can't we have embrace the fact that we have different political perspectives and different attitudes toward gender--and then listen to each other's viewpoints? Or maybe this forum really is a place only for boys-will-be-boys locker room talk.
Thank you.


A little off topic but since it was brought up:
To those of you who have decided to judge me for my previous post while choosing to ignore the correlation between my answer and the post I replied to, and, (willingly?) misinterpreting my words by putting your own spin on it, your actions will not change my post’s meaning and/or intent. I’m certain more open-minded, smart, obejective people will see through the smokescreen attitude some of you utilize expertly. And referring to my business model and my honorarium in this discussion? I fail to see the relevance unless it was meant as (an attempt at) a personal attack, just like the post I replied to earlier.

Some of you need to grow up...

Not a single man on this thread hurled a single insult... the ladies pretty much did in each of their posts.
Selective reading much, are we? (rhetorical question)

Women biologically are wired very differently and argue based on emotion and not rational thought...

Heterosexual men are the opposite - logic and reason before emotion.


That's the real reason this discussion is the way it is...
Please spare us the misogynist comments.
 
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hungry101

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Brilliant. I suggest an intelligent (not emotional) discussion and you respond with ?? resentment and insult. Well played.

And Gabriella and Amber hate heterosexual men? That might be news to those who have spent happy hours with them, and to those who have attended and will attend the soirees.

Honestly, guys, our manhood isn't endangered and our pleasures aren't compromised by acting like adults every so often.

Yes, but go look at your posts. There is always some sort of condescending and arrogant dig in your posts. Was it that big of a deal that I started a sentence with a conjunction to you? I mean I was just posting on what is sometimes referred to by others as hooker board with an I-phone or have you spent an inordinate amount of time in the pursuit of a liberal arts degree and all you can do with this "skill" is condescendingly point out grammatical errors on board posts? BTW - I think it was a conjunction if I remember my old School House Rock episodes correctly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODGA7ssL-6g And I don't want to act like an adult. I want to see as many escorts and attend as many of Iggies parties and go on as many hobby trips as I can and do as many fun things while I still can. I'm like a Toys R Us kid and Montreal is one of my favorite Toy stores.
 

talkinghead

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I'm sorry but I have no memory of correcting your grammar. I pointed out the misuse of a conjunction? If so, I'm sure there was another point. Can you remind me?

I'll respond to the rest later. By "acting like an adult," I simply meant showing respect for others. If I have bee rude to you, I apologize.
 

lgna69xxx

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Oops, i thought i read where someone said it was deleted, Gabriella i think. Anyways it indeed was a very offensive post, I am sick of political correctness in this world but that was one example of where better judgement should have been utilized.
Unfortunately post 30 has not yet been deleted
 

mkato

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I had a gay friend beaten to death once and it is still a sensitive issue.
[...]Where was the condemnation?
If he had said the same about a woman who misled him about her bra size would it still be up?

Hi Westwoody I hope you are doing good.

I am sorry for your friend that's crazy that he was beaten to death for being gay?! Ridiculous. I totally agree hate crimes like that just reek insecurity.

If I guessed, i'd say you didn't see an outpouring of protest over post #30 because people sympathize with victims against their perpetrators. People revert to self-justice when they feel they have no other recourse. I am not excusing any violence and do see that post as having been offensively written. It isn't because people didn't care about LGBT beatings which should not happen and are horrible but because they did not equate the two.

Breast size is not the same as gender any more than gender is the same as sacred relationships. They are all going to illicit different reactions from different people.

I feel a lot of the posters think it is no big deal for them and so they want it to be no big deal for everyone. But those posters may be bisexual. Well then you are the luckiest ones! If only society did not stigmatize you. But please don't stigmatize those that accept you as you are. Accept those people as they are comfortable to be as well. Some men don't want to have or be deceived into having sex with what they still see as a man!

Beating people up is for the weak. Kindness and compassion is real strength.


I agree with you. If only you could always be that strong and walk away unscathed.

For the matter of gender being black and white. Language itself is a fluid thing. It depends which definition you want to take. What is a dolphin? If a man uses surgery to look like a dolphin does it make him a dolphin because he feels like a dolphin?

Maybe, depends what you think of as a dolphin. Though most people have no trouble agreeing on what a dolphin is. For some gender is more about how one feels and looks. Of course cosmetic surgery is not only used by transgenders.

Chromosome wise, you have the Y chromosome. If it is there then I'd say you are a man. You can't remove it it is in every cell just like you can't remove a gene that decided what your hair colour was if you dyed it. The Y chromosome is what helps turn embryonic female genitalia into male genitalia. You actually inherit it from your dad. Human women inherit their mitochondrial DNA from their mothers only.

XY = Man
XX = Woman
XXX = Woman
XXY = Man
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXY = MAN

We like to think of humans as having 23 base pairs. But remember we evolved from something else.

Our definition of things don't mean squat in the grand equation anyway :)

If you used a retro-virus to reprogram every cell's DNA and turn you into a goat, would you really be a goat? What about a super sexy lady fully capable of conceiving/having children..Maybe...i don't know..that starts to get too crazy for me...and the DNA you would use for the transformation would it be of your own creation or borrowed?

Woody I agree with this post of yours;



Originally Posted by lgna69xxx
Everyone bleeds the same color and i have nothing against TS, Gay Men or Lesbians. Being deceitful and lying on purpose, yes thats a probllem.

Perfect summary of most people's feelings.
Make this post #2 and delete everything else :peace:
 

FunSexyMan

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I'm in total agreement with Gabriella's last post. It's well written, better than I could have done.
 

hungry101

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I'm sorry but I have no memory of correcting your grammar. I pointed out the misuse of a conjunction? If so, I'm sure there was another point. Can you remind me?

I'll respond to the rest later. By "acting like an adult," I simply meant showing respect for others. If I have bee rude to you, I apologize.

I have been rude as well. Sorry about the Alan Alda comment and any other rude comments I have made to you. Hopefully we can grab a beer at the next GT.
 

jalimon

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And referring to my business model and my honorarium in this discussion? I fail to see the relevance unless it was meant as (an attempt at) a personal attack, just like the post I replied to earlier.

Gabriella you wrote to Hungry a sentence that was a critics about what he wrote. Which is fine. But why did you had "hope you had fun in Thailand" ?

To us, this sentence resumed to "go back to fucking Juvenile asian lady who are so poor they have no other choices..."

Which seems a bit akward coming from an elite courtisans, as great and beautiful as you are :)

Hope you understand that this last part or your sentence to hungry was very mean.

Cheers,
 
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