2013/2014 Official NHL Thread

[lgna69xxx]

See, cairo, the problem here is you forget to be a knowledgeable hockey fan, (which you want us to believe you are) well if you are then why would you post that kadri as a first time offender, get 10 games for his hit on Backstrom? (oh yea he is a Leaf, lol) thats why it is instigating my friend which is why i said it does not belong here, no more no less.

Now, the hit Kadri had on the 'wild' player later in the game that got him a "match" penalty, might get him a few more games, but the one on Backstrom wont get him 10 and you know it.... it is clear to see you are trying to go around the rules i set in the first post and thats very classless bro.

Please one last time, take it to the free for all as this is not what is wanted in the official thread, please...and thank you sir.

I posted a HOCKEY observation

 

[Doc Holliday]

I'd be surprised if Kadri got anything for the hit against the goalie, but if he does, so be it. He hasn't done much this season anyway, so if he does get suspended the Leafs won't miss him much.

Why i think he may not get suspended? Because you're supposed to penalize the act, not the result. I doubt Kadri wanted to purposely injure Backstrom, and we wouldn't even be talking about it if Backstrom hadn't left the game later.

But like i said, Kadri has had a very average season so far & maybe a suspension is exactly what he needs to get his game going. He needs to realize that he must work hard & produce in order to deserve the raise he'll be seeking in his next contract.

 

[Merlot]

Gents,

The rules of the thread are clearly stated in post #1...Merci.

So post all things NHL and please respect others "opinions" in here at all times.

[video=youtube;QfedkmLGP-g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfedkmLGP-g[/video]

Look at the video at 44 seconds. At a distance of 6 to 7 feet Kadri turns square to the goalie Backstrom in full view with no pushing from anyone. Kadri goes straight at the head of Backstrom with no attempt to avoid, and indeed the second angle shows Kadri driving his elbow with the direction of Backstrom's head to knock it back with enough force to take himself down to the ice. The narration of the event says it all. The offense is "flagrant". A legitimate punishment would be anywhere from 3 or 5 to 7 games, maybe 10 for such a deliberate head shot with all the current sensitivity and alleged caring regarding head shots. IMHO, 3 games would only be a veneer of taking the offense of a head shot seriously.

As for this bickering, WOW! So someone throws a number down someone else disagrees with and he's an instigator, shit-disturber, etc? You've got to be an extremely over-sensitive homer to take serious offense to a rational number, and even if JC said 100 it would be a laughable joke, not disturbing. No honest person can look at all the angles of the hit and say this was not a significant offense to the head. But then to go on for several posts attacking someone for giving a reasonable subjective number is little more then looking for a fight.

Iggy...your first rule was to..."post all things NHL and please respect others "opinions" in here at all times." Now you're ballistic over a number? Don't just write rules, LIVE THEM!!! Why manufacture trouble over a number? Instigating???

...this is not what is wanted in the official thread, please...and thank you sir.

You mean disagreeing with you.



Merlot

 

[Doc Holliday]

So Merb now has its own version of Brendan Shanahan.

Here's my take on the Kadri/Backstrom incident:

-the incident was incidental. Kadri likely didn't even see Backstrom, and even if he did, his intent wasn't to injure him. Why would he?

-Kadri should not face further punishment for the play. As a matter-of-fact, James Reimer gets run down in a similar play nearly ever single game he plays!

-I believe that to save face, the league will suspend Kadri one or two games. If he gets two games, the league will look silly if Backstrom plays the next game.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Kadri got 3 games, just about what i thought he would.....

Not sure if he will get time off for the hit later where he got a match penalty.

 

[lgna69xxx]

I agree this might light a fire under him to elevate his game to the highest level. I would not really call his season so far as that bad, maybe average for a player of his skill set yes but he does sit 2nd on the Leafs in points and on pace for a 64 point season but i hear what you are saying Doc.

Really short handed at centre now for the next 3 games, good thing 2 are against buffalo, but they always play us tough in their barn...McKegg to get his first NHL action?

But like i said, Kadri has had a very average season so far maybe a suspension is exactly what he needs to get his game going. He needs to realize that he must work hard & produce in order to deserve the raise he'll be seeking in his next contract.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Ouch, Jonathan Quick is out 4-6 weeks with a bad groin. Not good for the Kings nor USA Hockey as he was likely gonna be the #1 guy in Sochi. Still plenty of time to recover but groins can be tricky sometimes, best of luck to JQ! And good luck to Ben Scrivens, it is his time to shine.

 

[Doc Holliday]

My guess is that Kadri will (and should) appeal his suspension. With Bozak a week away, it's time to call somebody up and see what they can do.

 

[Merlot]

OMG,

Kadri likely didn't even see Backstrom...

So he drove his elbow at the face of a phantom, never expecting a goalie to be in the goal crease. :eyebrows:

Yup, in his own words: http://www.tsn.ca/videohub/?collection=72&show=131697

Yeah right! I do love the Shawshank Homer mentality here. So the culprit says he didn't do it intentionally. Well...GLORY BE...let's empty all the prisons in the world by that standard. "What are you in here for? Didn't do it." Okay then you are all free to go. :lol:

I thought with Reverdy here there might be some honesty. No change. A Toronto fan is a Toronto fan. All the same huh Rev. The slow motion replay shows Kadri made no sign of trying to avoid and instead drove his elbow to Backstrom's face, yet you say it wasn't intentional. My butt! ALL THE SAME!

Well, if it wasn't intentional such a thing would not happen again:

"The referees threw Kadri out of the game at 8:41 of the third period when he smashed Granlund’s head into the glass. Kadri left his feet to make the hit and brought up his elbow to hit Granlund on the head."

:noidea: just an accident.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...as-backstrom-leaves-game-nazem-kadri/3521953/
"This is not a glancing blow," he said. "It is a direct and forceful blow to the head by Kadri's forearm that causes a serious injury." The professionals responsible for KNOWING HOCKEY agree with my view and my bare minimum of punishment.

Thanks for the laughs.

Cheers boys,

Merlot :thumb:

 

[lgna69xxx]

Agree completely, Kadri will take the 3 gamer and move on and like Doc said, hopefully this motivates him to take his game to the next level. Good young player with so much talent and also can play a tough hard nosed style ala Dougie Gilmour, and hey, he already got the "Kiss of approval" just like DG did years ago.

In the context of the Granlund incident, I think it would be pretty hard to get that reversed:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...hit-on-wild-goalie-backstrom/article15448016/

As Fraser's comments show, the outcry is such that it would be hard for the NHL to justify backing away from its original decision, IMHO.

 

[joelcairo]

What needs to be more enforced is the late hits and dirty hits, not fighting.

Here's an interesting quote from November 5, exactly 8 days before the Kadri hit on Backstrom.

Funny how opinions can change in 8 days.

 

[lgna69xxx]

Here's an interesting quote from November 5, exactly 8 days before the Kadri hit on Backstrom.Funny how opinions can change in 8 days.

Quote Originally Posted by lgna69xxx
What needs to be more enforced is the late hits and dirty hits, not fighting.


Really? Seems my opinion is exactly the same as it was 8 days ago, and here is your proof my friend.

btw as soon as it happened i texted Spec K to say "oops Kadri might get a game or two off" (which he likely will)

Kadri got 3 games, just about what i thought he would.

Now, please point out where i disagree with the punishment. Not only did i not disagree with the 3 games, i even pointed out last night he would get time off, which means i agreed it was a suspendable hit. Merci.

 

[Special K]

On this day, guess who's in first place?

NHL standings today

Get used to it, folks!

Been awhile since we've seen your standings screencaps, Doc. Oh...that's right. Guess we can get used to not seeing them anymore

 

[joelcairo]

Quote Originally Posted by lgna69xxx
What needs to be more enforced is the late hits and dirty hits, not fighting.


Really? Seems my opinion is exactly the same as it was 8 days ago, and here is your proof my friend.






Now, please point out where i disagree with the punishment. Not only did i not disagree with the 3 games, i even pointed out last night he would get time off, which means i agreed it was a suspendable hit. Merci.

Well, okay...since you ASKED, I'll be pleased to do as you requested: It's kind of funny that you selected these particular quotes in your "defence" but neglected to select your ORIGINAL response to my post about the vicious and illegal Kadri hit on Backstrom, because your ORIGINAL response did not state what you are implying here - in fact quite the contrary.

 

[joelcairo]

if anything he will get 1-2 games, i dont think he has ever been suspended before and stop trying to instigate in here cairo, this is not the thread for it. You "claim" to know your hockey and if you in fact do then you would also know nobody would get 10 games as a first time offender, especially since Kadri was given a 2 minute minor penalty. Take it to the free for all thread and dont start your crap here. The rules of the thread are clearly stated in post #1 and backed up by M10. Grow up.

Merci.

In case you've forgotten, here was your ORIGINAL response.

Not only is it rude and disrespectful (e.g.: "cairo", "you claim to know your hockey", "don't start your crap here", "grow up"), not only is it trying to instigate an argument in the wrong thread, not only are you breaking the rules YOU established in post 1 (!!!!), but it CLEARLY does NOT say what you later quote in your "defence". It SAYS: "If anything he will get 1-2 games". Clearly your ORIGINAL response was a write-off of the vicious attack and stated that he might get nothing ("If anything") and at most "1-2 games".

Well of course Brendan Shanahan gave him 3 (isn't that 1 PLUS 2, rather than 1 OR 2?). Clearly Brendan realized that there is no place in hockey for this sort of thing...just as I originally posted! Maybe you think Shanny should also "grow up" and not "start his crap"?

Oh, and maybe you ALSO think the same about your hero Donald S. Cherry? As we all know, Cherry is a big Kadri fan (even to the extent of kissing him)...yet on Coach's Corner, Cherry's words were "Smarten up Kadri" and Don ALSO noted that Kadri could EASILY have gotten MORE than 3 games. Way to go, Don! :thumb:

 

[joelcairo]

JC,

For the love of God, please continue this discussion in the Free For All thread!

Is it too much to ask???

Iggy asked me a question HERE so I answered HERE. Is it too difficult to understand?

 

[Merlot]

JC,

For the love of God, please continue this discussion in the Free For All thread!

Is it too much to ask???

Are you seriously so far gone not to see they're both doing it. What a SELL OUT!!! BTW: that's two consecutive posts here by you complaining, with no hockey content. Heal thyself.

What's that? "I agree with Iggy" - Reverdy. OMG!

So the Leafs split two games with the 5-win, actually 4-win (before Friday night) Sabres. Well...a win against anyone is a win, but losing to a bottom feeder? :noidea:

Oh yeah, nice two-game performance by the Toronto superstar Kessel against one of the worst teams in the league. Assists 0, Goals 0.

Whew,

Merlot

 

[Doc Holliday]

Been awhile since we've seen your standings screencaps, Doc. Oh...that's right. Guess we can get used to not seeing them anymore

My apologies, i've been busy. So here's the most recent update:

NHL standings as of November 17

Maple Leafs are tied for 2nd place in the conference with the Bruins. Surprising to see Detroit losing 6 in a row, currently the worse losing streak in hockey!

 

[joelcairo]

Surprising to see Detroit losing 6 in a row, currently the worse losing streak in hockey!

Agree completely: VERY surprising! Fortunately, however, Detroit is STILL tied with Toronto.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Agree completely: VERY surprising! Fortunately, however, Detroit is STILL tied with Toronto.

Indeed, considering all the injuries (and suspensions) Toronto has had to deal with, it is rather incredible that they're still among the conference leaders. This in itself is a considerable achievement.